The Dark Knight What are your biggest Dark Knight Fears?

[Stupify_me]

Actually.....having the same villian in 2 films would be something new.

Only X-Men has had recurring villians. Magneto and Mystique.

I'd like to see the Joker used again, as well as Scarecrow, Ra's and Zasz.

I mean they're great characters, if thery don't die.......what's the harm in re using them in a smart and creative manner?

Umm actually Spiderman reuses an Osborn/ Goblin. The storys always involve the Goblin in some way in the first one he is the main villian in the last one Harry is a side note semi Villian but he does find the Goblin suit in this one we are suppose to see Harry be a Goblin of some type from what I heard.

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

Mine fear is that Nolan will give Joker the Scarecrow treatment. Instead of a bagged head, we'll get a Joker more akin to the one in DKR: a silent white haired killer who has to lipstick himself.

I really don't get the DKR hate at all... Aside from the Joker wearing lipstick... Seriously, the Joker in DKR was as close to the definitive Joker that you'll see in any other Batman comic.

First of all, he wasn't "white-haired" in any way shape or form. He had his trademark green hair, and his chalk-white skin. And even the lipstick served a purpose; it was poison.

Second, he was only "silent" in the first part of the story, before Bruce came out of retirement. In fact the only reason he was "silent" in the first place was because he was catatonic after Batman retired. Why? Because he was obsessed with Batman. Vintage Joker. Frankly, I've always thought that was one of the Joker's defining characteristics; his sick, morbid fascination with Batman bordering on homoeroticism.

And lastly, he was as murderous, and as flamboyantly theatrical and eccentric as ever. I mean, he slaughtered hundreds of people in DKR with freaking exploding baby dolls that spread smilex gas.

Have you actually read DKR? Because the Joker we got in DKR was the classic Joker we know and love. I only HOPE that the Joker in TDK is half as good as he was in DKR.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

He's hardly a villian though. He's just a character that's brewing. Norman was the villian in the 1st. Harry was nothing more than a pretty cool written character in the 2nd, but not a villian.

 

[Stupify_me]

He's hardly a villian though. He's just a character that's brewing. Norman was the villian in the 1st. Harry was nothing more than a pretty cool written character in the 2nd, but not a villian.

Actually Harry was sort of a Villian he did hire Doc Ock to capture Spiderman because he wanted to kill him. That is why I said SEMI villian. My main thing is that the Goblin is in all three films in some way even in number two that is where Harry found the suit. I don't like the theme of the franchise being Osborn/Goblin vs Spiderman/Parker.

I would prefer only one or two villians in each movie with no repeats. Spiderman three has the potential to be the best of the 3 but the problem is that there are going to be three villians and that means one of them has to have a small role. It looks like that villian will be Venom to me Sandman has been rumored to have a huge connection with the story and play a big part in the film and we all know Goblin is the driving force of this franchise alongside spiderman so Venom seems to be the one that will get the short stick I could be wrong though.

 

[Stupify_me]

^Actually Sandman is the main villain, Harry/Green Goblin as a side villain and Venom not as big as Sandman and GG.

That is disapointing I would prefer Venom be the top Villian he is to powerful of a villian to be so minimal to a movie

 

[saint sinner x]

I'm worried that the sequel will have minimum action and alot of talking.One thing that the general audience likes is action and style I hope Nolan takes this into consideration.It's a danm batman movie for christ sake's he should at least put some bad ass fighting and action scenes. I really do not mind if the action is minimum as long as it has a long effect on the viewer. I hope the joker has his sinister laughs and makes dark jokes and at least resemble the joker. I hope he goes in depth with Harvey Dent I hope he explores Harvey Dent and I hope he doesn't put alot of stupid flashback scenes, I hope the Batman voice is better and I hope they change the fighting.Batman is a ninja he should at least utilize ninjitsu as his fighting style not "keysi". I hope they make Batman into a bigger smarter bad ass then he was in Batman Begins and please Nolan put some danm villains that we "The fans and viewers" haven't seen a live carnation of, Batman's rouge gallery is huge and he has alot of villains that can fit well into your grounded reality world of the batman, Better Action, Better Fighting, New Villains, New Style. Please mr.nolan change the danme tumbler it looks like a military tank on drugs and remember theatrics will always be entertaining in millions of viewers.

Pretty much the opposite of all the positive thing I said would be my worst fears, I am very optimistic and Nolan has 2 bad ass advisors on board so we'll see what happeneds with the script review whenever the hell those punks at latinoreview decides to post it or whatever.

And I hope my grammer improves

 

[Poetic Chaos]

That the Mad Hatter will never see the light of projection.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I think so. Plus he'd be completely fresh to Batman on film.

 

[LadyVader]

My biggest fear is that by 2008 I still won't have an IMAX theatre in this ****hole of a country I live in.

 

[7Hells]

Perhaps if i studied up on the subject of bad-assness a bit more, i'd see the Tumbler's not so cool, and that giant batfins on a car half an inch above the ground is.

Damn if that wasnt so long Id use it as a quote in my sig.

 

[7Hells]

Good young actor... Would have been perfect for the role of Anakin Skywalker b ut George Lucas blew that casting, and ruined the entire new trilogy by casting two of the worst actors alive to play Anakin.
Jake Lloyd, and Hayden Christensen were awfull

Christensen isnt a bad actor, Lucas is a bad director.

I don't want the Joker in both films I wan him in this one and then in the next one we can have Two Face and maybe one other guy but I don't want the same villian over and over there is no need for them to be repeated.

Nolan has already been quoted as saying Joker will be in both 2 and 3.

 

[Stupify_me]

Christensen isnt a bad actor, Lucas is a bad director.


Nolan has already been quoted as saying Joker will be in both 2 and 3.

Really now I have not seen that qoute at all. Would you please show it to me. I have only seen that Dent/ Two Face will be in both.

If the Joker really is in both I am very disapointed in Nolan and all of the other writers.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

If there's anyone in comic book film history that can be repeated, it's the Joker.

I think if having recurring villians, atleast as cameos, is a huge plus.

 

[LadyVader]

Christensen isnt a bad actor, Lucas is a bad director.


Nolan has already been quoted as saying Joker will be in both 2 and 3.

Indeed. Christensen was not bad at all in Shattered Glass.

As for Joker being in the 3rd one, he could always be in Arkham or something and Batman goes to question him, only to have him break out at the end. In case that's not the plot they're going to use in TDK.

 

[LadyVader]

Actually.....having the same villian in 2 films would be something new.

Only X-Men has had recurring villians. Magneto and Mystique.

Soon, Fantastic Four and Spiderman will be added to that list, since Dr Doom is coming back and Harry Osbourne looks like will be villain-ified.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I heard Doom wasn't going to show up. But, I guess he's like they're Magneto....so makes sense that he does I guess.

So.....we meet again LadyVader. Been a while.

 

[heypapajinx]

Katie Holmes will have sex with Bruce and give birth to Robin who will then become Batmans sex slave/ sidekick...

 

[7Hells]

Really now I have not seen that qoute at all. Would you please show it to me. I have only seen that Dent/ Two Face will be in both.

If the Joker really is in both I am very disapointed in Nolan and all of the other writers.

How can you be disapointed in something you havent even seen yet?

originally posted by boywonder13 in http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248752

"In a June 2005 interview with Premiere magazine, Batman Begins screenwriter David S. Goyer said, 'The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down the Joker... but not killing him. In the third movie, the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process.' "

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

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disappointed in Nolan and the writer b/c the Joker pops in for part 3?

Let me ask you a question Stupify.......what if at the end of TDK, we're left with an unresolved situation with the Joker? Like, we see him in handcuffs and he's supposed to be on trial soon?

I mean....wouldn't that make sense?

Just being disappointed b/c he appears again is kinda narrow minded. I mean, you have to give the story a chance to flow. See how it plays.

Let me ask you though.....would you prefer it if Batman kills the Joker?

 

[Stupify_me]

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disappointed in Nolan and the writer b/c the Joker pops in for part 3?

Let me ask you a question Stupify.......what if at the end of TDK, we're left with an unresolved situation with the Joker? Like, we see him in handcuffs and he's supposed to be on trial soon?

I mean....wouldn't that make sense?

Just being disappointed b/c he appears again is kinda narrow minded. I mean, you have to give the story a chance to flow. See how it plays.

Let me ask you though.....would you prefer it if Batman kills the Joker?

No I don't want Batman to Kill Joker I would be fine with an unresolved thing like he escapes or something. I don't think a villian should repeat. Batman has the greatest rogues list of any comic why do so many of you want the Joker repeated there is simply no need the acid could be thrown in Dent's face in TDK. Im sorry that it is so hard for you to understand that not every one thinks alike but I am willing to accept that you want the Joker to be in more than just one movie but I don't it is pointless there are going to be three movies as far as we know there probably won't be any beyond three I want to get some other villians in there and I don't want to see the Joker again and again.

 

[7Hells]

So.....we meet again LadyVader. Been a while.

Lady Vader has been called back to us by sensing a disturbance in the force with the mention of Star Wars on page 4!

Lame, I know, but im drunk and the buzz is wearing off.
So to bed I go before I make anymore lame references to my geekhood.

 

[LadyVader]

Actually it was the smooth Philippe pic.

 

[ultimatefan]

Yes, saying the Tumbler was bad-ass is terribly illogical. Because, you know, logic can even be applied to an opinion like that. Or perhaps it's my ignorance. Perhaps if i studied up on the subject of bad-assness a bit more, i'd see the Tumbler's not so cool, and that giant batfins on a car half an inch above the ground is.

None of us need lessons on logic and rationality from a post that sounds like an irrational rambling.

I don´t know about anybody else, but I have given reasons for everything I like about this movie. Agree or disagree, but they´re there, you can find the posts if you want and everyone´s witness to it. I´m done explaining myself to people who just come here to pick up fights.

 

[Cinemaman]

Mostly, seeing great pieces of filmmaking work being bashed by annoying nitpicky fanboys (like in the past Tumbler, the suit, etc.)

Yep, fanboys are really strange guys.

I mean they loved BB and now they are saying something like "I didn't like this or that". But 10-15 years later, when new trilogy begins, they will start saying "BB was better in this or that"

 

[Cinemaman]

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disappointed in Nolan and the writer b/c the Joker pops in for part 3?

Let me ask you a question Stupify.......what if at the end of TDK, we're left with an unresolved situation with the Joker? Like, we see him in handcuffs and he's supposed to be on trial soon?

I mean....wouldn't that make sense?

Just being disappointed b/c he appears again is kinda narrow minded. I mean, you have to give the story a chance to flow. See how it plays.

Let me ask you though.....would you prefer it if Batman kills the Joker?

Don't know about others, but I am agreed with you.

Joker is the main villian in sequels (especially in TDK). Yes, I doubt he will have more than 2 fights with Batman, but final one should be between him and Batman.

2Face isn't good villian for fighting, because he can't fight like usual real villian, who has his own advantage.