What are your complaints? What would you do differently? *SPOILERS*

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...where do these folks plug in that TV? And what the hell would they be watching out there? Maybe Al Quaeda TV.
Lol. My brother and I both looked at each other chuckled and were like "come on" when we saw this.
 
Clark could've totally saved his dad from the tornado and still not reveal his powers to anyone. In fact, the tornado is a PERFECT cover for his powers. Clark runs to his dad, covers him up. Tornado sucks them both up... everyone thinks they're dead... but they just land somewhere remote thanks to Clark's invulnerability.

Thought the same exact thing! Also that whole scene just seemed off to me. He stood there what felt like a long time. He didn't have to wait to the last minute to go back for his dad. It exemplifies my problem with parts of film, it's a decent movie that could've been great with just minor tweaks. Like what if clark was actually busy saving other people while his dad was doing the same thing. The scene still plays out with Clark ready to go save his dad and him waving him off but at least Clark was doing some first not just sitting their watching the whole thing play out.
 
Zod's motivation in the entire movie (or at least in the Kryptonian portion) was to save Krypton by any means necessarily, when he realizes that he was unable to do so after seeing the planet's remains, he opted for a goal that brought back his nostalgic sense of Krypton. The problem is, how could he ever assimilate with humans? Especially with the hubris Kryptonians have that they're the more advanced race compared to humans. So in order to bring back Krypton, they resorted to taking control of Earth, and eliminating all unwanted populations, in essence Zod's motivations are similar to how colonialism worked in past history.

When Jor-El and Lara said that their fate is tied to Krypton, it's not because they wouldn't survive Earth's atmosphere (and frankly that doesn't make sense considering how much lighter Earth's atmosphere is compared to Krypton's, and the emergence of a young yellow sun). Instead, they say it because to uphold the sense of freedom that they want for Kal-El. Conversely, you could also interpret it as Jor-El and Lara sensing that their death alongside Krypton is their rightful punishment for breaking such a huge law and giving birth to a natural born baby.

That is a decent explanation.
 
It wasn't explained at all. Why drift away from Kansas. Why would a farmboy from mid america go get a job Crab fishing in the Artic? Also the spaceship was found in Canada, I'm assuming as an hommage to Joseph Shuster the co-creator of Superman who was canadian, but was the bar Clark was working at in Canada too? That would be another weird place for him to drift too and I doubt he had a working Visa.

This is where some dialogue or voice over something from Clark could've helped. I like him traveling around but yeah he's rather silent the whole time until he finds the ship in the artic. Getting to know the adult him before he becomes Superman would've helped with character development like Batman Begins did. It's not a huge complaint but it just seems like when handling Clark they never quite know what to do as writers so they avoid giving him much to say. Great job once he becomes Superman but a little more dialogue like Begins would've helped with his character.
 
My only complaint was the pacing early on, the flashbacks were a bit weird. The scenes themselves were good just how they were positioned. i plan to see the movie again so im guessin it'll feel better the second time around.
 
One question, what is a Daily Planet reporter doing on the C130 that is going to bomb the Kryptonian world thingy?
 
Regarding the traveling: I just thought he was traveling because he couldn't resist intervening, saving others (and didn't want to), but needed to be able to vanish after doing so because he didn't want to face the consequences of being found out. So he just gets a job, but then something happens and he does something impossible, and has to move on to a new job, new name, etc. I'm really not at all certain he ever learned the knack of using his powers discreetly and/or making lame excuses, like other versions of Clark have done. Though sometimes, of course, discretion just isn't possible.
 
Regarding the traveling: I just thought he was traveling because he couldn't resist intervening, saving others (and didn't want to), but needed to be able to vanish after doing so because he didn't want to face the consequences of being found out. So he just gets a job, but then something happens and he does something impossible, and has to move on to a new job, new name, etc. I'm really not at all certain he ever learned the knack of using his powers discreetly and/or making lame excuses, like other versions of Clark have done. Though sometimes, of course, discretion just isn't possible.
This what I thought. He was hiding from society but things always happened and his inability to resist helping others always got in the way therefor having to change locations and identities.
 
Jor-el told her what to do, im guessin that was why.
Meh. The task was to put that key thing in the slot and it would activate the bomb. Couldn't that have been done by essential military personnel?
 
Lol. My brother and I both looked at each other chuckled and were like "come on" when we saw this.

Same for my sister and I. There were a few moments like that for us. I couldn't wait to see this movie and was bugging her to death to go with me on Friday, but she insisted on "In the End" ...... when we walked out of MoS yesterday, she made sure to rub it in my face how much more she enjoyed TITE.
 
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Y'know that scene didn't really affect me too much because I've been in a valley near the Himalayas where the locals were running a television off a car battery!
 
It wasn't explained at all. Why drift away from Kansas. Why would a farmboy from mid america go get a job Crab fishing in the Artic? Also the spaceship was found in Canada, I'm assuming as an hommage to Joseph Shuster the co-creator of Superman who was canadian, but was the bar Clark was working at in Canada too? That would be another weird place for him to drift too and I doubt he had a working Visa.

His drifting was his way of covering his tracks. He'd do something super, then he'd leave and go somewhere else

And I'm pretty sure Lois mentioned he'd just forge his documentation. Someone else is gonna need to confirm that, but I'm 90% sure I heard that.
 
His drifting was his way of covering his tracks. He'd do something super, then he'd leave and go somewhere else

And I'm pretty sure Lois mentioned he'd just forge his documentation. Someone else is gonna need to confirm that, but I'm 90% sure I heard that.
It definitely says his documentation was forged at the site of the spaceship (and he was going by "Joe"). It doesn't explicitly say he was using fake identities in the other jobs, but I thought it was implied by her having to track him back to Smallville through his path (if his name/info had been real in the earlier jobs, he'd have been easier to track). Also, we didn't hear him called by his name on those: he was "greenhorn" and "sweetie." And she says he spent a lifetime covering his tracks.
 
One question, what is a Daily Planet reporter doing on the C130 that is going to bomb the Kryptonian world thingy?

Well one she was the one who knew how to "arm" it if you will but, I believe the plan originally was not to kamikaze the C130 but since Faora attacked the colonel Hardy decided to taker her out in the process. I want to say Col. Hardy said they "could drop it from a C130."
 
As for drifting, in Superman 1978 Clark apparently spends 12 years "drifting". I'm never quite sure what exactly he did during all that time?

Wrong. He was 18 when he builds the fortress of Solitude. He spent the next 12 years being trained by his father in the fortress.
 
I haven't read all these pages, but has it brought up that Lois did end up releasing her story about who the alien is? I remember perry white was mad that lois went somewhere else to release that story. So after all the events of the movie everyone would know that this superman had a connection to lois. So wouldn't a ton of people already know who superman is based on lois story that she gave the other news/internet site?

edit: ohh another question. I was confused about why Zod and others were strong when they had their helments on? I thought only when they were exposed to the air they started getting powers (that's when the xray and heat vision kicked it.... wouldn't that be when strength would kick in too?) So were the suits they were wearing what were making them strong and fast? were they like iron man suits? But since Zod was getting use to the powers when his helment was off he no longer needed the suit to give him strength so that's why he took it off? I thought that was unclear as far as how that power stuff worked.
 
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I haven't read all these pages, but has it brought up that Lois did end up releasing her story about who the alien is? I remember perry white was mad that lois went somewhere else to release that story. So after all the events of the movie everyone would know that this superman had a connection to lois. So wouldn't a ton of people already know who superman is based on lois story that she gave the other news/internet site?
The story she had put on the blog was the that said "I had a alien rescuer who faked credentials to get near the spaceship." Only after she turned in that story did she track down Clark. Yes, the blog-runner (I recall his name as "Woodburn" and thought it was a Woodward and Bernstein joke) said Lois knew who the alien was (which was indicated to be the reason the authorities showed up), but she didn't actually know when she talked to the guy. Unless I have my timeline mixed up.
 
AGAIN, WHY WAS LOIS LANE BROUGHT UP TO ZOD'S SHIP?

It made zero sense. No, it made negative sense.
 
I haven't read all these pages, but has it brought up that Lois did end up releasing her story about who the alien is? I remember perry white was mad that lois went somewhere else to release that story. So after all the events of the movie everyone would know that this superman had a connection to lois. So wouldn't a ton of people already know who superman is based on lois story that she gave the other news/internet site?

edit: ohh another question. I was confused about why Zod and others were strong when they had their helments on? I thought only when they were exposed to the air they started getting powers (that's when the xray and heat vision kicked it.... wouldn't that be when strength would kick in too?) So were the suits they were wearing what were making them strong and fast? were they like iron man suits? But since Zod was getting use to the powers when his helment was off he no longer needed the suit to give him strength so that's why he took it off? I thought that was unclear as far as how that power stuff worked.

Well. Kryptonians power is widely shown as coming from Earth's yellow sun. In the movie it was explained that Krypton's sun is younger (probably instead of being red like in the comics) They mentioned a kryptonian's skin cells drink in the suns radiation and power their muscles/senses. It probably takes a bit more prolonged exposure with the helmets on but radiation still acts upon them.

Also it's probably worth mentioning that the gravity on Earth is likely less so than that of on Krypton. Thus walking around on Krypton is the equivalent of jumping hundreds of feet in the air on Earth.
 
AGAIN, WHY WAS LOIS LANE BROUGHT UP TO ZOD'S SHIP?

It made zero sense. No, it made negative sense.

I stopped caring after the Kryptonians were stupid enough to make sure their most wanted criminals were safe and sound, knowing they were about to die.
 
Well. Kryptonians power is widely shown as coming from Earth's yellow sun. In the movie it was explained that Krypton's sun is younger (probably instead of being red like in the comics) They mentioned a kryptonian's skin cells drink in the suns radiation and power their muscles/senses. It probably takes a bit more prolonged exposure with the helmets on but radiation still acts upon them.

Also it's probably worth mentioning that the gravity on Earth is likely less so than that of on Krypton. Thus walking around on Krypton is the equivalent of jumping hundreds of feet in the air on Earth.

I figured maybe it is the gravity thing. Because that's not a power. Like when men walk on the moon we don't have 'power' to jump higher. So I guess it makes sense that they are stronger just based on that.... but the 'powers' come later with yellow sun. Thanks.

And for the other person that responded about lois story not saying who superman is. That's a detail I missed. Only saw it once and wasn't sure when she actually found out. So yeah it makes sense that she found out later or else the government would be at clarks front door instead of going after lois (they went after lois based on the story) Thanks again.
 
You wanna know what's odd? Now that I've seen the movie and didn't like it, I find myself going BACK and starting to rip apart all the things that should have clued me in to begin with. Things that - at first - seemed awe inspiring because of my anticipation and building hype... but now given context should have been dead give-aways about Snyder's mishandling.

Like Krypton. So, so unimaginative and void of feeling. It's like Snyder said, "Okay give me a sci-fi futuristic setting and throw as much s*** on the screen as you can." It just has no character. With Snyder, everything has to be over the top. Even the krypton armor has to be OVERLY textured and complex and mechanical.

I hate to draw the comparison, but you have to appreciate Donner's Krypton in retrospect. His Krypton didn't just feel futuristic, but it also felt cold and sterile. Most importantly, it felt mythical. Krypton bordered on heavenly.
 
You wanna know what's odd? Now that I've seen the movie and didn't like it, I find myself going BACK and starting to rip apart all the things that should have clued me in to begin with. Things that - at first - seemed awe inspiring because of my anticipation and building hype... but now given context should have been dead give-aways about Snyder's mishandling.

Like Krypton. So, so unimaginative and void of feeling. It's like Snyder said, "Okay give me a sci-fi futuristic setting and throw as much s*** on the screen as you can." It just has no character. With Snyder, everything has to be over the top. Even the krypton armor has to be OVERLY textured and complex and mechanical.

I hate to draw the comparison, but you have to appreciate Donner's Krypton in retrospect. His Krypton didn't just feel futuristic, but it also felt cold and sterile. Most importantly, it felt mythical. Krypton bordered on heavenly.

Cool story.

So if we liked it and thought Zack Snyder did a great job... Then what do we do about all these "dead giveaways" you speak of?
 
Cool story.

So if we liked it and thought Zack Snyder did a great job... Then what do we do about all these "dead giveaways" you speak of?

I can't tell you how to feel. If you loved the film, that's great.

I can only speak for myself.
 
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