what innovative changes can you do to reinvegorate the spiderman mythos?

[GoldenAgeHero]

please do not list giving him a baby or bringing back ben reilly. i stories, taht has to deal with his persona.

 

[Darthphere]

Stop being Tony's *****. Make him the working man's hero again. Bring him back to his roots. First would be get off New Avengers and move out of Avengers Tower. Become someone we can relate to again. SHow more of his teaching side. Damn, show him struggling with both of his lives. Mostly, no more emo SPider-Man.

 

[Zoken]

Well I mentioned under the "OYL" thread that Peter, not Spider-Man but Peter, be invited/abducted by a "Think-Tank" headed by Doc Ock, the Mad Thinker, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Sinister. they would tell him that his test show the potenial for true genius intellect, and that they wish him to join them in creating a world without "Moronic, judgmental, false Champion" (They want to get rid of super-heroes). Peter prepares to say yes, just to spy on them, but then Dr. Doom instructs Otto to tell Peter the extremely interesting information they liberated from Osborne Industries. a memo regarding "Subject M.G.P" saying that "She is currently three years old and reading on a third grade level. the X-Gene has been detected, and they are proceeding with Mr. Osborne's instructions." Peter quickly realizes that "M.G.P." could very well be "May Gwendolyn Parker". Peter is given shown the possiblity that his daughter may be alive.

This generates more and more problems as Peter can't risk telling any of the Avengers about this, or even MJ, as These people mention that they have been watching him for some time. They don't yet realize he's Spider-Man, though Doom is dropping frightening hints that he may know. They also talk about other members such as Wilbur Day and Herman Shultz, but they are mentioned to be "Lower eschelon members." Otto seems to wish Peter to be there as an ally and a confidant. Even Otto realizes that he is in a room with snakes. He wants one person to trust.

 

[Darthphere]

Well I mentioned under the "OYL" thread that Peter, not Spider-Man but Peter, be invited/abducted by a "Think-Tank" headed by Doc Ock, the Mad Thinker, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Sinister. they would tell him that his test show the potenial for true genius intellect, and that they wish him to join them in creating a world without "Moronic, judgmental, false Champion" (They want to get rid of super-heroes). Peter prepares to say yes, just to spy on them, but then Dr. Doom instructs Otto to tell Peter the extremely interesting information they liberated from Osborne Industries. a memo regarding "Subject M.G.P" saying that "She is currently three years old and reading on a third grade level. the X-Gene has been detected, and they are proceeding with Mr. Osborne's instructions." Peter quickly realizes that "M.G.P." could very well be "May Gwendolyn Parker". Peter is given shown the possiblity that his daughter may be alive.

This generates more and more problems as Peter can't risk telling any of the Avengers about this, or even MJ, as These people mention that they have been watching him for some time. They don't yet realize he's Spider-Man, though Doom is dropping frightening hints that he may know. They also talk about other members such as Wilbur Day and Herman Shultz, but they are mentioned to be "Lower eschelon members." Otto seems to wish Peter to be there as an ally and a confidant. Even Otto realizes that he is in a room with snakes. He wants one person to trust.

Sounds like its complicating things instead of simplifying.

 

[Zoken]

I don't want to simplify it. Peter's appeal to me has always been that he can barely handle his life, and he's gotten pretty comfortable these days, so I want to throw a monkey wrench in there. also, the "Baby May" promises that the Think Tank throws out to lure Peter in, never really solidify. infact they might have just made the whole thing up to get Peter in on this. this allows Baby May's status to remain unconfirmed, and still string Peter along.

 

[roach]

Nothing. The problem with the books now is that they are trying to be too innovative and in the process are messing with what makes Spiderman great. The only changes I'd make is to make his foes more of a threat and less of a joke. I like the idea that he is a subsitute teacher and would keep that and his marriage. Other than that I would move forward. Also I think I'd end his obsession with Gwen. He's married to this hot chick and still thinks about his old girlfriend...I think not.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Nothing. The problem with the books now is that they are trying to be too innovative and in the process are messing with what makes Spiderman great. The only changes I'd make is to make his foes more of a threat and less of a joke. I like the idea that he is a subsitute teacher and would keep that and his marriage. Other than that I would move forward. Also I think I'd end his obsession with Gwen. He's married to this hot chick and still thinks about his old girlfriend...I think not.

more like ****ty story telling to me.

 

[Darthphere]

Nothing. The problem with the books now is that they are trying to be too innovative and in the process are messing with what makes Spiderman great. The only changes I'd make is to make his foes more of a threat and less of a joke. I like the idea that he is a subsitute teacher and would keep that and his marriage. Other than that I would move forward. Also I think I'd end his obsession with Gwen. He's married to this hot chick and still thinks about his old girlfriend...I think not.

Yeah the Gwen thing is old. In Marvel time what almost 10 years has passed? It gets to the point where it seems a mourning period will last 20 years in the MU.

 

[roach]

so on my run Peter wont pine for Gwen or wont hang out at the bridge that she fell from

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

so on my run Peter wont pine for Gwen or wont hang out at the bridge that she fell from

well it makes perfect since to me that he wont go near the bridge, hell when my sister died, my mom had to move out the house it reminded her too muc of my sister. you have no idea how many night i woke up to my mom crying. so i feel for pete with the whole bridge.

 

[The Question]

Way I see it, bring back baby May. Make him a dad. That's progression for ya'. And retcon out Aunt May's return from the dead. Her death was a great moment in Spider-Man history.

 

[deemar325]

I'd finally prove that the whole totem mess was Anasi the Spider God messing with Peter this whole time with Morlun and all the JMS crap. The kicker being that Anasi was Ezekiel and that he was the actual spider that bite Peter all those years ago.

Ezekiel apologizes to Peter and explains why he was screwing with his life, Ezekiel has been watching Peter since the beginning and thought Peter wasn't being careful or responsible with his powers (Gwen's death, Green Goblin's manipulations of him etc...) so Ezekiel/Anasi just wanted to give Pete a wake-up call.

So Anasi undoes all the (JMS crap! weird powers and stingers.) He let's Peter know that the 'Sins Past' crap was fake. Norman set the whole thing up, when MJ disappeared and was pregnant, actually she wasn't and Norman made her believe the 'Sins Past' garbage.


Peter is now happy and relieved and decides to stay an Avenger, but he tells Tony to f-ck off.

Dan Slott takes over writing Spider-man and JMS goes away forever.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'd finally prove that the whole totem mess was Anasi the Spider God messing with Peter this whole time with Morlun and all the JMS crap. The kicker being that Anasi was Ezekiel and that he was the actual spider that bite Peter all those years ago.

Ezekiel apologizes to Peter and explains why he was screwing with his life, Ezekiel has been watching Peter since the beginning and thought Peter wasn't being careful or responsible with his powers (Gwen's death, Green Goblin's manipulations of him etc...) so Ezekiel/Anasi just wanted to give Pete a wake-up call.

So Anasi undoes all the (JMS crap! weird powers and stingers.) He let's Peter know that the 'Sins Past' crap was fake. Norman set the whole thing up, when MJ disappeared and was pregnant, actually she wasn't and Norman made her believe the 'Sins Past' garbage.


Peter is now happy and relieved and decides to stay an Avenger, but he tells Tony to f-ck off.

Dan Slott takes over writing Spider-man and JMS goes away forever.

finally someone who thinks jms as a *****ebag. he's good with supreme powers, but he should never tocuh the MU characters again.

 

[deemar325]

^ Thanks, I just think it's time for someone else to take on Spidey who's not a egotistical tv writer.

 

[Darthphere]

finally someone who thinks jms as a *****ebag. he's good with supreme powers, but he should never tocuh the MU characters again.

His FF is pretty good, and when hes not doing this totem garbage his Spider-Man is top notch, oh and the Gwen Stacy stuff too. I dont nkow what the hell he was smoking and what every editor involved with the Spider-Man titles was thinking. Its like having a mini where Aunt May and Uncle Ben go to the beach and have lots of sex and a pregnancy scare......

 

[deemar325]

Way I see it, bring back baby May. Make him a dad. That's progression for ya'. And retcon out Aunt May's return from the dead. Her death was a great moment in Spider-Man history.

I'm not to keen on that idea, I don't want to age Peter to much. Keep him young, having a kid screws up continuity.

 

[The Question]

I really liked the totem stuff. I don't get the distain for it.

 

[The Question]

I'm not to keen on that idea, I do want to age Peter to much. Keep him young, having a kid screws up continuity.

How does it screw continuity? It screws up continuity to keep him the prepetual fresh from college newlywed.

 

[Darthphere]

I really liked the totem stuff. I don't get the distain for it.

It goes against almost 50 years of continuity? It be the same as saying Superman being a genetic experiment done by Jor-El.

 

[deemar325]

Nothing. The problem with the books now is that they are trying to be too innovative and in the process are messing with what makes Spiderman great. The only changes I'd make is to make his foes more of a threat and less of a joke. I like the idea that he is a subsitute teacher and would keep that and his marriage. Other than that I would move forward. Also I think I'd end his obsession with Gwen. He's married to this hot chick and still thinks about his old girlfriend...I think not.

Agree.

 

[The Question]

It goes against almost 50 years of continuity? It be the same as saying Superman being a genetic experiment done by Jor-El.

Except, it doesn't change anything. Everything he did as Spider-Man still happened. All it does is reveal something new apbout his origin. How does that go against almost 50 years of continuity?

 

[deemar325]

How does it screw continuity? It screws up continuity to keep him the prepetual fresh from college newlywed.

I think kids is just a drag in a comic, it sets his timeline in stone somewhat and as the kid ages so does Peter. Not to mention all the crap some writer might toss in with de-aging the kid or forgetting it's a infant or toddler or whatever.

It's a hassel.

 

[Darthphere]

Except, it doesn't change anything. Everything he did as Spider-Man still happened. All it does is reveal something new apbout his origin. How does that go against almost 50 years of continuity?

Because there is nothing mystical about being bit by a radioactive spider.

 

[The Question]

I think kids is just a drag in a comic, it sets his timeline in stone somewhat and as the kid ages so does Peter. Not to mention all the crap some writer might toss in with de-aging the kid or forgetting it's a infant or toddler or whatever.

It's a hassel.

It can be dificult, yes. All that requires is that the writers actually try to craft a good story. It'd take some talant.

Because there is nothing mystical about being bit by a radioactive spider.

So? How does that ruin anything?

 

[Darthphere]

It can be dificult, yes. All that requires is that the writers actually try to craft a good story. It'd take some talant.



So? How does that ruin anything?

Its not part and shouldnt be part of his origin. Peter is just some kid wo was at the wrong place at the wrong time who had to deal with these "gifts" by adding the mystical part, it kind of cheapens the everyman portion of Peter Parker's origin as Spider-Man.