Homecoming What should they do with the Spidey franchise?

[spider-neil]

Just made this

Coming to a cinema near you in 2025.

 

[marcvader]

If it were really getting a reboot could we please get an actual young high school aged non-cool looking/hipster kid for once?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Coming to a cinema near you in 2025.

he might make it the avengers 6 maybe

 

[harryoscop]

Coming to a cinema near you in 2025.

2025... really?

 

[Beast]

Reboot? C´mon, man...

The only thing they really need to do is to pay more attention to the story and stop redoing the same stuff over and over again. Enough with the same old storylines. Be bold. So something different.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

A reboot just would clear out everything for Marvel (sort of what they did to the Star Wars EU). That way you're not tied with Gwen and Norman dead and that awful Goblin. Or that magic blood, only Pete DNA crap.

 

[marcvader]

Exactly. The point is this Webbverse sucks and needs to be erased and taken back to the drawingboard. If this franchise was doing well as is then there wouldn't be all this talk of bringing him in to Marvel Studios.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Exactly. The point is this Webbverse sucks and needs to be erased and taken back to the drawingboard. If this franchise was doing well as is then there wouldn't be all this talk of bringing him in to Marvel Studios.

wait so its no longer a rumour? because from what i know all this pretty much is a rumour so far

 

[marcvader]

wait so its no longer a rumour? because from what i know all this pretty much is a rumour so far

Talk=rumours

 

[GuestStar2004]

Reboot? C´mon, man...

The only thing they really need to do is to pay more attention to the story and stop redoing the same stuff over and over again. Enough with the same old storylines. Be bold. So something different.

if sony reboot it will hurt them i think

if marvel get it back it will go on the shelve for maybe 6 years and by then the marvel MCU will be a very different ball game anyway

 

[GuestStar2004]

Talk=rumours

so rumours = something is wrong?

i dunno... rumours kinda seem to me like... well.. rumours which come from a source either valid or invalid

rumours are spread about alot of films so that doesn't mean anything and the whole spider-man in the MCU has been around since even before TASM was released, but then there was something to back that up since marvel nearly had the oscorp tower in the avengers

 

[harryoscop]

if sony reboot it will hurt them i think

if marvel get it back it will go on the shelve for maybe 6 years and by then the marvel MCU will be a very different ball game anyway

Not if they do a soft reboot.

And if Marvel ever did another solo Spidey flick, they could easily show his origin in the opening credits scene (incredible Hulk) or they could go the SSM route and have Spidey explain his origin in flashbacks.

 

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Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty
can't say why because I won't spoil it, but I'm now a lot more excited for tomorrow's Marvel event. Think it's going to be a fun morning.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Forget about the talks of turning things over to Marvel for a moment, if Sony wasn't hurting they never would have pushed back ASM3. That's just plain obvious. But the fact that so many people are or would be excited just by the mere mention of Spidey returning to Marvel has to say something about how people are perceiving Sony and the job they've done thus far versus the job Marvel has done. With respect to their CBMs.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I would love for today to be the day it finally happens, but I just don't see it.

hope I'm wrong and pleasantly surprised.

 

[spider-neil]

Forget about the talks of turning things over to Marvel for a moment, if Sony wasn't hurting they never would have pushed back ASM3. That's just plain obvious. But the fact that so many people are or would be excited just by the mere mention of Spidey returning to Marvel has to say something about how people are perceiving Sony and the job they've done thus far versus the job Marvel has done. With respect to their CBMs.

The people getting excited by Spidey in the Marvel Universe are fans on SHH boards. The general audience probably don't even realise the character is owned by a different studio.
As for rebooting the character twice in a decade, that is asking for character to be finished in the eyes of the general audience.
Sony's best bet is to press on and simply improve the quality of the movies. Make a critically acclaimed Sinister Six movie and then build on that. If Sony wants a totally creative team for ASM3, fine, but rebooting would be disastrous.

Also people complaining about the differences in the Webverse and 616 canon,
X-universe;
The X-Men 'first class' consisted of Cyclopes, Jean Gray, Iceman, Beast and Angel compared to the movie first class of Beast, Mystique, Havok, Banshee, Magento and Charles.
Havok is old enough to be Cyclopes' dad.
Mystique and Charles are 'siblings'.
And that is limited to FC alone let alone the first 3 X-Men movies and the Wolverine movies.
All that matters is the quality of the movie. A reboot is throwing out the baby with the bath water.
If Sony aren't happy with the writing get new writers. If they aren't happy with the direction get a new director.

 

[GuestStar2004]

But the fact that so many people are or would be excited just by the mere mention of Spidey returning to Marvel has to say something about how people are perceiving Sony and the job they've done thus far versus the job Marvel has done. With respect to their CBMs.

if fanboys heard a rumour that fox had plans to let marvel use wolverine the fan boys would go nuts and it wouldn't be left alone for a good long time aslong as that rumour was still around, it would be everywhere... but that doesn't mean much for how people see Fox studios

obviously they wouldn't be able to use hugh jackmans wolverine because marvel can't register and haven't registered mutants in its MCU, but that wouldn't stop fanboys getting excited about this cross over and not thinking about how it would even work or make sense because it doesn't matter, screw logic, ITS A CROSS OVER!!!

 

[Micromind]

It's a sad thing that TASM 2 was not successful enough and things now are not looking that great.

Though, Sony can still try to salvage the franchise, let Spider-Man make a guest appearance in one of the Marvel Studios movies (it can be Avengers 2 or even Cap 3, Thor 3), some would question "How does Marvel benefit from this ?"

My answer is - They have all the merchandise rights to Spider-Man, a rejuvenated property would ensure more sales for merch (Action figures etc.) whose profits go to Marvel, plus they (Marvel) need some thing to advertise their solo movies like Thor 3 (as Thor is not exactly doing great), Hulk (if they make a solo movie) and C-list heroes like Black Panther, Ant-man.

 

[harryoscop]

Another thing is that even though TASM 2 didn't meet expectations, Sony would still have the merchandise to fall back on. too bad they sold the merchandising rights to Marvel. it's terribly funny!

 

[Micromind]

Another thing is that even though TASM 2 didn't meet expectations, Sony would still have the merchandise to fall back on. too bad they sold the merchandising rights to Marvel. it's terribly funny!

Which is why Marvel would be happy to let Spider-Man appear as a guest star in one of their movies, unless there is a financial incentive involved, they would not think of helping a franchise that still licensed to Sony.


Sony should use this opportunity to get some spot-light back on Spidey.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It's a sad thing that TASM 2 was not successful enough and things now are not looking that great.

Though, Sony can still try to salvage the franchise, let Spider-Man make a guest appearance in one of the Marvel Studios movies (it can be Avengers 2 or even Cap 3, Thor 3), some would question "How does Marvel benefit from this ?"

its more of a case will sony and marvel actually come to a satisfying agreement, sony would obviously want their character to shine the most since its their only character and marvel will obviously want their other characters to shine just as much

say if spider-man is in captain america 3 then it would very likely be the case capt america will beat the bad guy at the end... then sony would say but we want spider-man in the climax to take down the villain because he ain't in it that much from this point to that point

its the way studios work out, its all about them and sony will take as much as they can get and that could create some friction between the studios, its not about sharing and hugs here

 

[BatsDC]

If I was trying to please both Marvel and Sony, I'd say have them sign a joint deal.

At it's core, this would share the Spider-Man franchise. Marvel would then move ahead with a 'soft reboot' of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise set after the events of ASM1, keeping Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone and Sally Field. This would be in the form of a 13-part mini-series, which would early on cover the Green Goblin story and Death of Gwen Stacy, before moving on to introduce MJ and other characters and storylines. Both Marvel and Sony would develop, and it would debut in late 2015 / early 2016. Marvel would also then incorporate Spider-Man into the Civil War movie in 2016, which would take place after the mini-series. It therefore won't confuse the general audience - Gwen is still dead, Andrew still Spider-Man, etc.

Meanwhile, Sony can continue development of Venom: Carnage and Black Cat, which would fit into the new MCU-set continuity. These could both still be released in 2017, and again profits could be shared. Sony then can develop a new Spider-Man film with Marvel, repurposing Drew Goddard's Sinister Six story and keeping him at the helm. This would follow on from the Netflix series and could even see some other MCU characters come over to help Spidey out.

This way Marvel is able to mostly establish their own Spider-Man to use, and his cast of characters, plus Sony is able to use the MCU branding to launch it's currently developing Spider-Man projects rather than scrapping them, and potentially gain more money from it as a result.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

If I was trying to please both Marvel and Sony, I'd say have them sign a joint deal.

At it's core, this would share the Spider-Man franchise. Marvel would then move ahead with a 'soft reboot' of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise set after the events of ASM1, keeping Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone and Sally Field. This would be in the form of a 13-part mini-series, which would early on cover the Green Goblin story and Death of Gwen Stacy, before moving on to introduce MJ and other characters and storylines. Both Marvel and Sony would develop, and it would debut in late 2015 / early 2016. Marvel would also then incorporate Spider-Man into the Civil War movie in 2016, which would take place after the mini-series. It therefore won't confuse the general audience - Gwen is still dead, Andrew still Spider-Man, etc.

Meanwhile, Sony can continue development of Venom: Carnage and Black Cat, which would fit into the new MCU-set continuity. These could both still be released in 2017, and again profits could be shared. Sony then can develop a new Spider-Man film with Marvel, repurposing Drew Goddard's Sinister Six story and keeping him at the helm. This would follow on from the Netflix series and could even see some other MCU characters come over to help Spidey out.

This way Marvel is able to mostly establish their own Spider-Man to use, and his cast of characters, plus Sony is able to use the MCU branding to launch it's currently developing Spider-Man projects rather than scrapping them, and potentially gain more money from it as a result.

Are you talking about comics or a television series?

 

[BatsDC]

Television, preferably Netflix or somewhere where good money will be injected into it

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The people getting excited by Spidey in the Marvel Universe are fans on SHH boards. The general audience probably don't even realise the character is owned by a different studio.
As for rebooting the character twice in a decade, that is asking for character to be finished in the eyes of the general audience.
Sony's best bet is to press on and simply improve the quality of the movies. Make a critically acclaimed Sinister Six movie and then build on that. If Sony wants a totally creative team for ASM3, fine, but rebooting would be disastrous.

It's not just on SHH that people are excited about that kind of news. Honestly, I don't think most people would bat an eye at a 'soft' reboot of Spider-Man into the Marvel movies. Ever since SM3 there's been a steady decline in ticket sales...Sony isn't doing a good job with the character. If they were, things would be different and we wouldn't even be talking about this possibility. People enjoy quality and the bar has been raised for CBMs.

if fanboys heard a rumour that fox had plans to let marvel use wolverine the fan boys would go nuts and it wouldn't be left alone for a good long time aslong as that rumour was still around, it would be everywhere... but that doesn't mean much for how people see Fox studios

obviously they wouldn't be able to use hugh jackmans wolverine because marvel can't register and haven't registered mutants in its MCU, but that wouldn't stop fanboys getting excited about this cross over and not thinking about how it would even work or make sense because it doesn't matter, screw logic, ITS A CROSS OVER!!!

Sony is not putting out quality films. Marvel is doing a much better job of it. I'm very open to seeing how Marvel would handle the character and having him be in the Avengers would simply be a bonus.