Homecoming What should they do with the Spidey franchise?

[Whiskey Tango]

I have this Spidey figure. It's awesome, I wish they'd make more of them. Always wanted a Cap one.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Yes.

Reboot would be the last thing they want to do, as of now.

Just merge the Spidey universe with the MCU, for ****'s sake.

this.

ASM1's story is fine.

But I'd be fine with a reboot if it was rebooted in the MCU. What I meant was that Sony creating yet another Spidey universe (I.E rebooting again) would be ridiculous.

no, i wouldn't be okay with another reboot, period. garfield is getting old but i don't want to see a new face taking on the role of peter parker anytime soon.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

ASM2 kinda non-existent story made be appreciate ASM1's story more, though, instead of growing sour on it.

Agreed. I still have some issues with the movie, but it's still solid in my book.

 

[SpideyK]

I have this Spidey figure. It's awesome, I wish they'd make more of them. Always wanted a Cap one.

Awesome.

I have mine two feet away from me, I'll never let it go.

no, i wouldn't be okay with another reboot, period. garfield is getting old but i don't want to see a new face taking on the role of peter parker anytime soon.

Again, for Sony to reboot would be disaterous. I like Andrew as Spidey and Peter (in ASM1, at least). What I'm saying is that when the inevitable reboot comes, I'd like for it to be made by someone else than Sony.

Neither SM3 nor ASM2 was completely Sony's "fault" - mostly, it was simple incompetence on the directors', writers' and producers' part.

However, I still think it'd be interesting to see Spidey on another studio than Sony/Columbia.

Agreed. I still have some issues with the movie, but it's still solid in my book.

Yeah.

If I were to sum up my thoughts on ASM1 in a few sentences it'd pretty much be that it has a truly remarkable first hour, unfortunately drops the ball midway through, but sure as hell picks it up when the time comes.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

What should they do with the current franchise? They should take ASM 1 & 2 and put it into a capsule and launch it into the sun. Wait twenty years and start fresh.

In 20years, I'll be 70! No way I want wait that long!

Spidey played a huge role in Civil War. He was a main/central character along with Captain America and Iron Man. That said...... .. they could restructure it and fill his role with someone else. But make no mistake....... it wouldn't have the same scope and gravitas as "Iron Man vs. Captain America, with Spider-Man in the middle".

Yea, no disrespect to Blank Panther, but that's a HUGE missed opportunity!

In the midst of all the "Will Spidey join the MCU" hoopla, I actually forgot how much I had hated his role in Civil War back in the day. I always thought that revealing his identity to the public goes against everything that Spider-Man stands for. So much for responsibility when outing himself will throw all his loved ones into the spotlight, which comes with a nice side dish of mortal danger. He would have little-to-no control over who would be made a target.

That was all Joe Q letting that happen to put Spidey into a corner so he could have his OMD agenda. They could change it for the MCU.

Why should they dilute the quality of the current MCU by merging two crap stories into it?

Reboot the hell out of it, just open in media res with Pete's webslinging career already underway. There's no need to tell the origin again except in vague flashback and you avoid any mention of Sony's bungled-by-committee cash grabs. Win win.

Definitely agree!

Definitely, if it was just ASM1 I think Marvel wouldn't have too much problems integrating it, but with ASM2 I doubt Marvel would want it anywhere near the MCU. The complete wasting of Norman Osborn alone would be enough. The guy is Peter's greatest enemy and Sony kill him off without ever even being the Green Goblin.

Again agree. This is why I want a reboot and not use the Webbverse,

 

[spider-neil]

TASM1 story was fine. I didn't mind Lizard, would have done other stuff myself but the overall story was fine. Not good or bad but fine.

TASM2 didn't even have a story.

Yes it did. You simply didn't like the story they were telling.

 

[HanShotFirst]

I thought first hour and 40 minutes of TASM2 was kinda pointless. It started getting good after Electro reappeared, which is like what last 40 minutes of the movie.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Yes it did. You simply didn't like the story they were telling.

Because it sucked.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Awesome.




Again, for Sony to reboot would be disaterous. I like Andrew as Spidey and Peter (in ASM1, at least). What I'm saying is that when the inevitable reboot comes, I'd like for it to be made by someone else than Sony.

Neither SM3 nor ASM2 was completely Sony's "fault" - mostly, it was simple incompetence on the directors', writers' and producers' part.

However, I still think it'd be interesting to see Spidey on another studio than Sony/Columbia.

well I think the only other studio we may see making spiderman films is disney. sony's in a lot of trouble and it would be smart to instead give up spiderman, to work collaboratively with disney.

 

[Doc Ock]

I just want Spidey in the MCU, it is going to get the point where I don't care anymore how it happens just let it happen.

 

[harryoscop]

Why should they dilute the quality of the current MCU by merging two crap stories into it?

Reboot the hell out of it, just open in media res with Pete's webslinging career already underway. There's no need to tell the origin again except in vague flashback and you avoid any mention of Sony's bungled-by-committee cash grabs. Win win.

This

Why is it so hard for people to grasp this? If Marvel ever gets Spidey back they should just reboot! we don't need the the baggage left behind by Sony.

 

[spider-neil]

Because it sucked.

That's different to saying no story.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

That's different to saying no story.

There was more wrong with it than just that.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

That's different to saying no story.

I never claimed otherwise.

 

[LizardMan07]

I feel like Sony would benefit more than Marvel in any situation that a Sony-verse spidey is integrated into the MCU.

No situation where both companies benefit equally.

Most likely is just Sony going alone, most probably failing.

I would love to see Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man in Civil War. Still dreaming of the post credit sequence in AoU featuring spidey.

'Tis a pipe dream

 

[JOE]

It's not going to happen. Sony has their death grip on Spidey. The MCU is making money without him, there's no need for them to beg Sony for him.

 

[Young Superman]

- Release Director Cuts of TASM1 and TASM2.
- Restore all the deleted scenes that help the narrative.
- Recut the films overall.
- Insert Stark/ Avengers Tower into the shots that have the MetLife Building.
- Retcon the FBI agents in Aunt May's flashback into Shield agents.
- Give TASM2 a credits scene
- Reveal the foreign military agency Osborn was working with as Hydra

- Give Spidey a TV series

- Have him be in the roster for Avengers 3, which is rumored to have many of the founding members sit it out, until Avengers 4

Great ideas.

 

[lukebrodyg]

Yes it did. You simply didn't like the story they were telling.

How would you describe the story for ASM2...just curious.

 

[lukebrodyg]

It's not going to happen. Sony has their death grip on Spidey. The MCU is making money without him, there's no need for them to beg Sony for him.

Precisely.

 

[LizardMan07]

It's not going to happen. Sony has their death grip on Spidey. The MCU is making money without him, there's no need for them to beg Sony for him.

Who exactly are you responding to here? Or are you arguing with yourself? someone else?

 

[I'm Batman.]

I'd cancel Sinister Six and release ASM3 in 2016. Drop the whole parents storyline and ignore setting Sinister Six up for now. Adapt both the Alien Costume Saga and Kraven's Last Hunt into one movie. Use the space shuttle crash for the symbiote's origin. Introduce Brock and MJ. The villains are Chameleon and Kraven. Establish them being half-brothers and have them working together. Chameleon disguises as Spider-Man and frames him for various crimes. Brock writes an article for the Bugle claiming Spider-Man to be dangerous to the public. Kraven uses this as his opportunity to come to New York and hunt Spider-Man. Spider-Man exposes Chameleon and proves himself innocent, and Brock is fired from the Bugle.

Kraven buries Spider-Man alive but Spider-Man escapes and finds Kraven, beating him in a fit of rage before realizing that the symbiote is starting to take control and resisting the urge to kill Kraven. Spider-Man forcefully removes the symbiote in the tower of a church. Mid or post-credits scene shows Venom.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

I'd cancel Sinister Six and release ASM3 in 2016. Drop the whole parents storyline and ignore setting Sinister Six up for now. Adapt both the Alien Costume Saga and Kraven's Last Hunt into one movie. Use the space shuttle crash for the symbiote's origin. Introduce Brock and MJ. Villains are Chameleon and Kraven. Establish them being half-brothers and have them working together. Chameleon disguises as Spider-Man and frames him for various crimes. Brock writes an article for the Bugle claiming Spider-Man to be dangerous to the public. Kraven uses this as his opportunity to come to New York and hunt Spider-Man. Spider-Man exposes Chameleon and proves himself innocent, and Brock is fired from the Bugle. Kraven buries Spider-Man alive, but Spider-Man escapes and finds Kraven, beating him in a fit of rage before realizing that the symbiote is starting to take control and resisting the urge to kill Kraven. Spider-Man forcefully removes the symbiote in the tower of a church. Mid or post-credits scene shows Venom.

Don't you think it's too similar to SM3?

 

[Spider-Fan83]

rather you like where the story was going or not, I still say they should finish what they started

leaving a story half told, or just ignoring what you set up in previous movie, just wouldn't feel right, we should see some type of conclusion to wrap that up, before moving forward

now I am not saying it should be the full focus of the plot, or that it even needs it own subplot, just saying it should be addressed, for these movies to feel like an real trilogy

or all those other scenes in the movies would have been for nothing

 

[JOE]

Who exactly are you responding to here? Or are you arguing with yourself? someone else?

It's meant at your post since you called it a pipe dream, which is what it is at this moment. Sony would want a ridiculous amount of money at this point, which is not worth spending at the moment.

Had the MCU been struggling with new faces then maybe they'd go for the sure bet which is Spidey. However, when you have movies like GOTG making a ton of money (3rd highest grossing film) and doing amazing with the critics, there's no reason to play it safe. That's why they're going with Inhumans, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Doctor Strange.

Do I want Spidey in the MCU? 101%. Am I accepting the fact that it probably won't happen? 99%.

The question about Spidey and Feige's "lack of an answer" is the only small glimmer or hope we have blended with all the rumours circulating.

 

[harryoscop]

I feel like Sony would benefit more than Marvel in any situation that a Sony-verse spidey is integrated into the MCU.

No situation where both companies benefit equally.

Most likely is just Sony going alone, most probably failing.

I would love to see Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man in Civil War. Still dreaming of the post credit sequence in AoU featuring spidey.

'Tis a pipe dream

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