The Avengers What villain do you want in the Avengers movie?

[Mutagen]

no, i get you

i dunno, i'd just really rather as much time as possible be spent on the heroes and their relationships with each other. that's why i want the loki/hulk thing, both are established and you should be able to tell where they're coming from thanks to previous films so you don't have to spend alot of time devolping them but they're still more than just the guy with lasers blowing up the city

Having Loki seems like a bias for Thor fans, saying Loki's the big villain in this universe. While he is in many ways, I can assure you there are many that disagree.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think either way you have to gear the villains to one of the heroes... if it's not Loki then it might be a Captain America villain... Zemo, Skull, etc. Kang isn't really biased but I don't see them using him. Ultron as well... but I see him down the line as well. So other than those guys, and maybe Skrulls... there will probably be a bias for the villain they chose. I think you should have a villain for every hero that will work well amongst each other, but not necessarily the main villains from the solo movies.

 

[Mutagen]

I think either way you have to gear the villains to one of the heroes... if it's not Loki then it might be a Captain America villain... Zemo, Skull, etc. Kang isn't really biased but I don't see them using him. Ultron as well... but I see him down the line as well. So other than those guys, and maybe Skrulls... there will probably be a bias for the villain they chose. I think you should have a villain for every hero that will work well amongst each other, but not necessarily the main villains from the solo movies.

I don't disagree, I would love to see the Opposite Avengers, but in a sequel. I mean they seem like something to do as a climax of the Avengers movies, not just happening right off the bat.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah but if you are using villains that have not previously been featured heavily then it really isn't on par with a "climax" type threat... I think Ultron/Kang are more suited for that.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I want a Skrull/Thanos/Dr. Doom Team-Up and a guest appearance from Kang

 

[The Revengers]

Avengers: Ultron
Avengers II: The Skrulls
Avengers III: Kang The Conqueror

 

[marcvader]

I'd put Ultron in Avengers 2. Let him be created in Avengers 1 and turn at the end of the flick in cliff hanger fashion.

 

[Mutagen]

I'd have Ultron as a villain for Antman instead, seeing as how all his enemies are mostly lame. Bring him in a sequel, when you have a collection of villains, like Red Skull, Loki, Abomination, Crimson Dynamo, etc. in an Opposite Avengers / Masters of Evil fashion.

 

[marcvader]

I'm doubtful the Antman movie's happening therfor being introduced in the Avengers if at all. In a perfect world he'd be created in Antman and turn on the Avengers. He's too powerful for Antman alone in his solo.

 

[Mutagen]

If they didn't make an Antman movie, I wouldn't have any problem using Ultron in The Avengers. I think it would showcase Antman's incredible intellect, if they show him somehow beating Ultron.

 

[Chris B]

If it were up to me, my Masters of Evil line-up would look something like this:

Baron Helmut Zemo
Loki
Iron Monger (Ezekiel Stane)
Abomination
The Leader
Random 6th member (I can't think of one at the moment)

I think a line-up along those lines would be easy to pull off since all of them would have ties to the earlier solo films. Loki is of course going to be the villain in Thor and I think that in Captain America, you could have the original Zemo as a secondary villain to the Red Skull, with Helmut picking up the torch in the present.

You can easily bring back Abomination and the Leader is already set-up. In the case of Ezekiel Stane, all you need is a simple backstory where Stark didn't stick with SHIELD's cover story for Obadiah, revealing him to be the original Iron Monger. With Ezekiel wanting revenge for both his father's death and his name being tarnished.

 

[zeptron]

My Masters Of Evil Line-up

THE ABOMINATION - The Abomination survived the "Hulk" movie, so no reason why he can't return for a rematch, especially if The Hulk is involved somehow.

THE CRIMSON DYNAMO - It looks like Crimson Dynamo is gonna be in the "Iron Man" sequel, and CD survives, he could join the team out for payback on Iron Man

THE WHIRLWIND - He has history with Henry Pym and Janet van Dyne, so he could be Ant-Man and The Wasp's counterpart. Plus he's been a long-time Avengers villain and he's shown up quite often.

THE VIPER - Every team needs a lady on board, and The Viper is a dangerous member of Captain America's rogues gallery. A psychotic anarchist and not too shabby in the hand-to-hand combat department, she could be Captain America's enemy on the team as well as the classic femme-fatale.

THE ABSORBING MAN - This guy took on Thor and The Hulk by himself, but he's also duked it out with the entire team of Avengers. In terms of sheer power, he'd be a formidable foe (they just have to not make the same mistakes they made with him in Ang Lee's "Hulk" movie). Just make him a subject of genetic manipulation or even a mutant (or if Loki's involved, then you have your "a wizard did it" explanation)

KLAW - I'd only use him if they introduced The Black Panther, since they created each other, more or less. Sonic weapons aren't all that implausible, given the rules these movies are playing by.

As for Ultron, I could see a quick reference or two of him and save him for the sequel, where we have the Vision and stuff.

 

[Ironfan72]

I voted Ultron, but also like Masters of Evil, close call, either one would work for me.

 

[AdamantiumWR]

The big problem with the Avengers movie villain is time. Ultron is probably the best villain of the bunch as far as what he can bring to a movie. Unfortunately he won't show up in the first film because he has a backstory with pym that I don't think will make its way into the same movie that introduces pym (assuming ant-man doesn't come out before the avengers).

The masters of evil is tough because not only do you have to setup the avengers being formed but you also have to setup the masters of evil being formed which to me sounds like alot to do in one movie. The other problem with the masters of evil is paying all the high profile actors that will probably have to be cast to play them along with the already large salries of the actors playing the avengers.

Since the solo movies (with the exception of Thor for obvious reasons) are set in the real world the skrulls seem like they wouldn't fit.

To me what makes the most sense is two previously used villains, my guess is red skull and loki, teaming up. With red skull you can have the global threat and loki can turn Bruce Banner into the Hulk resulting in an avengers vs hulk fight at the end. I think they will set Ultron up in the first film to be used in the second one. I don't see there being a 3rd Avengers movie because of the time it takes to make them along with the age of the actors playing key roles.

 

[Raiden]

I think Loki is a fine villain, but I'm not sure if he will be right for the Avengers' first movie. They have to come up with a story that has a threat so imminent and world-shattering that Nick Fury have to have all the Avengers unite to deal with this common enemy, and Loki doesn't seemed like he'll be someone that Fury will perceive as this big of a threat, because he likes to work behind-the-scene. I think perhaps Skulls (and their Invasion storyline) will probably be a better fit. I'd like Masters of Evil, but with a large cast already, adding more will just create a storytelling nightmare.

 

[jokerface89]

I was originally thinking of having The avengers go up aganist there famous foes from the previous flicks with even though the leader and The Mandarin have not yet appeared.But I would agree that it would seem pointless for them to go up aganist people they have already beaten but I would like to still see the leaer in it since theres a good chance there won't be a hulk sequel and since they already created him they might as well put him to use.

 

[MarvelFanClub]

ultorn he is hank pyms bot

 

[The Sarge]

How about A.I.M. or H.Y.D.R.A.? It gives a large group of supervillains for them to fight, while not needing too much backstory like Masters of Evil. Also, it plays up the alliance with S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Ultron should be saved for the sequel. Scratch that MUST be saved for the sequel. I think the Masters of Evil would work (Loki, Red Skull, Abomination, whoever Rourke is playing if that character survives) or a group like AIM or HYDRA. Maybe the villains goal would be to get control over the Hulk, but Hulk decides to stick with the Avengers (expanding the Hulk is a hero element that was slightly touched in TIH).

 

[CrypticOne]

I'd like to see Thanos. But that's probably too big of a villain to start out with.

 

[Spiderine]

If it were up to me, my Masters of Evil line-up would look something like this:

Baron Helmut Zemo
Loki
Iron Monger (Ezekiel Stane)
Abomination
The Leader
Random 6th member (I can't think of one at the moment)
I think a line-up along those lines would be easy to pull off since all of them would have ties to the earlier solo films. Loki is of course going to be the villain in Thor and I think that in Captain America, you could have the original Zemo as a secondary villain to the Red Skull, with Helmut picking up the torch in the present.

You can easily bring back Abomination and the Leader is already set-up. In the case of Ezekiel Stane, all you need is a simple backstory where Stark didn't stick with SHIELD's cover story for Obadiah, revealing him to be the original Iron Monger. With Ezekiel wanting revenge for both his father's death and his name being tarnished.

i agree

 

[Jerkofwonder]

It needs to be something that is going to be seen as an actual threat. Maybe the wrecking crew, but with Red Skull, or Loki, or someone else in charge as the main villain. You want to start this off kind of small. Save the epic stuff like Ultron and Thanos for sequels.

 

[Rich Santoro]

I still like a major uber-tech private army that invades Washington DC and holds it hostage. Skull and AIM, with a supporting cast like Crossbones and Taskmaster (with some other tech-ed out villains that do not need much backstory)... Perhaps the Cosmic Cube would be in order to make a major physical threat.

I just like the idea that there has been a growing threat that SHIELD has been anticipating (they would be the X-Files org of the Marvel Movie verse... having files on aliens, humanoid life-forms, secluded socieites, over the top new technology, etc...) So they are recruiting the AVENGERS in preparation, rather than as a reaction.

Ultron and MODOK (since AIM would be involved) can be foreshadowed for future films...

 

[scatterax]

I voted ultron cause he's completely awesomet:

 

[Chris Wallace]

You just get done watching Bolt, scatterax?