Which Hulk looked better?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A shame too, yes, Incredible Hulk may have had a lot cut out, but over any other super hero movie I believe it planted the seeds for sequels better than any other. So many scenes (Banner's and Stern's evil grins, Stark showing up, Abomination left alive) leave me craving more after every viewing. It keeps making me think "Where are they going with this!?"

Hulk will no doubt get a solo movie again, we all know that, on the same note I truly hope it turns out to be an LL-Norton Hulk again.

It just would have been nice to have a Hulk franchise to look forward to again.

About the bolded part, what makes you so confident?

I was looking forward to a sequel, especially with the super-villain left alive, which doesn't happen often in these movies. Would've been interesting to see how they would've contained Abomination.

I know, I was also hoping we would have gotten to see comic book Abomination in TIH2 also. Maybe the Leader could have injected anphibian DNA into him the make his skin stronger or something and BHAM, you have comic book Abomy.

 

[FrostBite]

It just would have been nice to have a Hulk franchise to look forward to again.

About the bolded part, what makes you so confident?

I am extremely confident they will keep trying with one of their most popular characters in one form or another. Marvel obviously wants to continue on with Hulk or they wouldn't have brought up wanting to place him in other heroes movies / The Avengers.

If they gave Punisher 3 films they'll give Hulk 3 films. (The difference being that Hulk movies may have underperformed but they were actually good.)

Whether or not it's a reboot or not... that's another story, and I wish it didn't have to be as I love the universe they have created here.

 

[Aldar]

I doubt they'll reboot again because Marvel knows in some shape or form how much fans loved TIH. For all we know they surf sites like this for feedback, not to mention all the mail they must receive about TIH. I'm very confident that we'll get a couple sequels. I'd absolutely hate for them to reboot and get rid of Norton & Leterrier.

 

[FrostBite]

I doubt they'll reboot again because Marvel knows in some shape or form how much fans loved TIH. For all we know they surf sites like this for feedback, not to mention all the mail they must receive about TIH. I'm very confident that we'll get a couple sequels. I'd absolutely hate for them to reboot and get rid of Norton & Leterrier.

Well us fans don't decide whether or not a sequel comes around. As it stands they didn't make tons of money on it... and with the behind the scenes fall out with Norton.... who knows.

Personally, I don't think Norton hates them as everyone insinuates. The man did say this was just part of the movie making process, and even after he didn't have to sweet talk the movie just to make sure it did well in theaters, he didn't directly turn down the Avengers by saying "I don't want to do it."

Still, the man put in a lot of work and was extremely passionate only to have it kind of spit back in his face by having some very well written scenes of his cut out of the picture.

 

[Aldar]

For the most part I agree but don't we decide the future of these movies? Without us spending our money going to the theater or buying the theater, they wouldn't know we were interested. In any case, I still wouldn't rule out a sequel just yet. As you said, Norton didn't say he wouldn't do a sequel or the Avengers movie, so he'll probably come back.

 

[Saint]

As far as CGi is concerned, there's no question: '03 was superior. In terms of design, it's a toss up. '03 Hulk had a dopey face, but he emoted better, and generally the model looked and moved more like a real, functioning organism. Conversely, the '08 Hulk looks cooler, meaner, and not dopey at all, but he tends to look over-the-top, and not like a functioning body (this is mostly apparent in the shoulders and arms), he doesn't emote quite as well, and his animation does not include some of the nuances that made the '03 version seem to move like a real creature.

The ideal Hulk, for me, would be somewhere in between the two versions.

 

[Aldar]

I still think that the 2008 movie had much better CGI. It looked more real to me, and the muscles were more realistic, as were the proportions. For me, the 2003 Hulk had more rubber looking skin and was built like a powerlifter, whereas the 2008 Hulk had a bodybuilder mixed with a linebacker type of look, with skin that looked more real.

 

[PeterFan87]

2008 Hulk hands down..

Man what a great movie!

 

[co2]

I just watched TIH on DVD, and I had watched '03 the other night.
There is more detail in '08, but I'm sorry, he looks more cartoonish than '03. I think I definitely have to give it to '03.

 

[Aldar]

I've watched TIH twice since I got it, and I've watched the 2003 Hulk countless times, and I think that TIH still captured better CGI. I dunno why but he got a more realistic feel, and I felt that they captured how Hulk would be in real life.

 

[chaos123x]

Hulk 08 looks much cooler and closer to the comics! his design is awesome!
But he looks plastic and kinda fake.

But Hulk 03 just looks realer and the CGI is much better, even though his design is pretty lame.


I wish ILM did the effects with the Hulk 08 design, that would be sweet.

 

[marty mcfly]

I think the biggest problem with HULK 08 (even though I still think he looked better than HULK 03) was that some of the artists quality didn't match others. If you watched the special features it showed (I believe in "The making of a Hulk-Out" or whatever) that one artist worked on the scene where HULK uses a cop car as boxing gloves. I thought this was one of the best scenes in the film, the CGI was just superb. Then they showed another artist worked on the last few minutes of that final fight, after the helicopter crashes. And I think that had some of worst and most inconsistent CGI in the whole movie. Not all of it was bad, but a lot was. It was very cartoony and the motion was unnatural.

Obviously it would be unreasonable to have 1 artist work on the whole film, because that would take years. But ILM has a higher quality of artists that do a better job at matching the concept and matching each other's work.

If you had 5 people on this site draw a "stick figure" they would all look slightly different. And that's normal, but it took me out of the movie when I could almost say to myself "oh, they should have used that other animator to do this scene."

 

[dcHulk]

Watching the movie on Blue Ray, the Norton Hulk was absolutely awesome. The visuals were much more crisp and clear than at the theater (well...duh). I have to give a round of applause for the animators. Were there inconsistencies? Sure, but so there was in Hulk 03. Did it distract me? Not one minute. For >95% of the movie, I believed that the Hulk was there. The level of detail was superb. I have to give the edge to Hulk 08.

On another note, my in-laws watched the movie for the first time last night. My father-in-law told me that he liked this version better than Ang's movie. More specifically, he said he hated how big they made the Hulk in 03. I explained to him that in the comics he had a range of sizes and it wasn't uncommon for him to be as big as he was in 03; but I still see his point.

 

[Aldar]

I don't think he's ever been 15 feet tall in the comics, or if he has been, it's been very few times. As said by Feige on the special features, he stands in around 9 feet usually, so TIH got that exactly right. I also have to agree with Feige about the separation from Hulk and human being too great with him being 15 feet tall.

 

[RogueDK]

I just watched TIH on DVD, and I had watched '03 the other night.
There is more detail in '08, but I'm sorry, he looks more cartoonish than '03. I think I definitely have to give it to '03.

That's funny because by comparison, I thought that Lee's Hulk looked more cartoonish with that unrealistic shade of green. Not to mention his baby fat.

'08 looked simply amazing to me but if I had one critique, I'd say that his skin was maybe abit too glossy in some shots. I've heard alot of people complaining that he resembled an action figure and were immediately turned off by the animation. I still love that one over Lee's.

Much closer to the comic's look.

 

[Aldar]

Indeed, and he was more ripped, like the Hulk should be. He had the veins, right amount of muscle, and excellent proportions. Not to mention he was much more vicious.

 

[Nathan]

It always depends on what comic you're looking at. Not in every comic Hulk was ripped beyond believe. There are comics where he just looks like a power lifter, as described before.

 

[Aldar]

True, but I felt that the '03 Hulk looked like he was carrying too much fat. Even when the Hulk has had more of a powerlifter look in the comics, he didn't exactly look like he was carrying a lot of fat.

 

[RogueDK]

True, but I felt that the '03 Hulk looked like he was carrying too much fat. Even when the Hulk has had more of a powerlifter look in the comics, he didn't exactly look like he was carrying a lot of fat.

"baby" fat. t:

Not that I didn't like it too. I did. Just for different reasons.

 

[Doc Samson]

Hulk 08 looks much cooler and closer to the comics! his design is awesome!
But he looks plastic and kinda fake.

But Hulk 03 just looks realer and the CGI is much better, even though his design is pretty lame.


I wish ILM did the effects with the Hulk 08 design, that would be sweet.

Yeah, hopefully one day we can get that. I think if they ever do get around to really making the Avengers, the cgi will be alot better just because he they won't have as much to do, I don't think he'll have more screen time in that than he did in his own movies.

That being said, I still think this all comes down to what you read growing up and the artists that you really liked. When I see '03 Hulk, I don't see "fat" at all, I see a body very close to a Sal Buscema rendition, which I grew up on and prefer. Hulk '08 I can definitely see a Deodato/Keown body, which I love as well, it's just not my preference. They need to just combine all the elements of both that work, get ILM to use a different model, and things will be right with the world

 

[Aldar]

You guys have talked about which Hulk design is better for three pages so I must propose a question as I don't want to make a new thread.

Which design do you like more between the 2008 Hulk & the Abomination?

 

[Golgo-13]

Like someone else said, it's the eyes that take you out of it a bit.

 

[Aldar]

For which one? I thought the eyes of the 2008 version were perfect.

 

[Golgo-13]

2008. In some shots, like the shot where he changes in the overpass, jumps out and roars..the eyes make his face look a little cartoony.

 

[Aldar]

I thought it looked just fine...guess it's all up to personal preference.

So, which design do you guys prefer between the '08 Hulk & the Abomination? In other words, which looked cooler?