The Dark Knight Rises Which villians are MOST LIKELY to appear?

[CaptainClown]

I don't think he'd even have to be a villain as such. I know my idea is poor to average at best, but I have thought of one possible way to treat Hatter.

I thought of Jervis Tetch would be a scientist working on a microchip that ultimately would be used to stop the sexual urges/desires of pedophiles. During his research he becomes desensitized to some of the images he sees. (Which a lot of psychologists believe is the cast with almost all pornography, and there have been a few reported cases here in the UK of police that work in specialised units dealing with child pornography ending up being caught looking at it as time goes on.) He seeks help from Dr. Jonathan Crane, who instead experiments on him and tapping into his fear of becoming a pedophile.

As a result of these experiments Tetch's mind regresses to his childhood favourite of Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and he begins to really believe Gotham City is Wonderland, and searches out for his Alice.

As I said it's not a great idea by any stretch but I was trying to combine some of the modern aspects of the character with some of the more traditional.

If I were to encorporate Hatter. I would make him a cult leader, something like Manson. I think he could be a great symbol as to someone who manipulates the world we think is reality. Which could play into Gotham who perceives Batman as a bad guy.

I would have him taken out in one scene, and have other villains like Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman in the main light.

 

[solidsnake86]

Looking back on both movies all the villains wore a suit and not a costume. Really, the riddler and penguin are easy to pull off. I think catwoman being a theif can be done as well.

I think its hard because the better villains have been used in terms of the strongest storylines in the comics and characters like the riddler and penguin would have to be fleshed out and not seem as gimicky. I like dini's take on the riddler as a detective and I'm thinking that their going to play on the reversal as batman being seeing as the villain and (whichever villain is chosen) will be the hero.

 

[Rockadood]

My other issue is, once Batman and Gordon know the real names of the villains, surely they'll just be called by their names rather than their alias.

Which leads me to think it should be a masked villain, or one who is able to stay one step ahead, without being seen committing crimes, like Riddler.

 

[The Batkilt]

If I were to encorporate Hatter. I would make him a cult leader, something like Manson. I think he could be a great symbol as to someone who manipulates the world we think is reality. Which could play into Gotham who perceives Batman as a bad guy.

I would have him taken out in one scene, and have other villains like Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman in the main light.

That could work, yeah. I'd like that, but I'd also like a Gotham Knights style animated tie-in that'd show more of him getting to that stage. I think another animated feature would be a good idea as it'd allow for characters like The Mad Hatter, who aren't neccesarily great choices for a major role in a feature film, to appear. I'd prefer more of a plot driven film rather than segments though.

 

[dontplaydead27]

I don't think WB would let anything to do with pedophilia/rape touch the movie. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just saying. The movie has to be PG-13 at most, and it has to be marketable to kids without pissing off parents. The traditional character of Hatter would not be allowed in this movie, unless the R-rated aspects were gone.

Which they did it for the old animated series, but not sure how that would go in the movie.

 

[Majik1387]

Umm, TDK was sorta pushing the limit violence wise for little kids, and to easily offended parents, I'd expect the same measures be taken with the next movie

 

[The Batkilt]

I don't think WB would let anything to do with pedophilia/rape touch the movie. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just saying. The movie has to be PG-13 at most, and it has to be marketable to kids without pissing off parents. The traditional character of Hatter would not be allowed in this movie, unless the R-rated aspects were gone.

Which they did it for the old animated series, but not sure how that would go in the movie.

With my own idea I wasn't intending for him to be turned into a pedophile. He'd genuinely believe he was in Wonderland and would be searching for Alice. Obviously to the general public of Gotham he'd come across as a pedophile but I guess it'd be Batman who would be the one not to buy that.

Having said that I agree that even my idea would be too close to pedophillia to get anywhere near a live action Batman film. It was just more an idea of how to adapt the character.

 

[LostGuy]

I think it is possible to bring in:

-Catwoman
-The Riddler
-Black Mask
-Hugo Strange
-The Penguin

These villains are easy to adapt to Nolan's universe. I personally don't think that Tetch would do a good transition, or at least I can't see a good adaptation to the screen that does not diminish the power of the character.

 

[Adam West]

I really hate the death trap idea for Riddler. He is not Jigsaw

They don't have to be Jigsaw type traps. My other suggestion would be to make Riddler a serial killer like Zodiac, but he won't stand much of a chance once Bats catches up to him, so there needs to be a way his victims can die without him being there. The whole idea is that Batman is distracted running around Gotham to save these people, which gives Harley time to continue Mister J's plan.

I'm not sure about Harley Quinn, only because she was written for the animated series. Nolan seems to be taking his cues from much earlier source material.

Nolan has said the Long Halloween is one of his main sources, TLH came AFTER the animated series.

 

[Quinzel]

The riddler is the one who's most likely to appear, but honestly, i'm kinda sick of people doing the same ones over and over again!

I'd like to see someone that no one would expect, like....Calender Man.

Cause He's just a guy, Joker's just a guy, but he also has a way with getting people to do what he wants, Calender Man is someone who could easily be a real life thing, and that's what scares people about movies.

But Idk. I'm sure there's a better villian, i'm just trying to think of someone i wouldn't expect to see in a movie.

 

[The Batkilt]

The riddler is the one who's most likely to appear, but honestly, i'm kinda sick of people doing the same ones over and over again!

That's the flip side to The Dark Knight being such a huge success. Warners are now going to hope for a sequel to rake in plenty of cash as well which means they'll want well known villains and most probably better known actors.

 

[Mangelo]

After reading Batman: Strange Apparitions, I'd love to see a storyline that weaves Hugo Strange, Rupert Thorne, Deadshot, Penguin, Joker, and Silver St. Cloud into the plot. Obviously, some the them would just be cameos. The Nolan brothers are certainly capable of juggling all of those characters, while still giving Bruce Wayne/Batman ample screen time.

 

[The Major]

The Death trap thing may not hold water, but they definitely need to do something to spice up The Riddler if they plan on using him.

They can do that by making Nashton an incredibly intelligent, egotistical private investigator or Fed hunting Batman who created the Riddler persona to lure him out.

 

[The Major]

The Riddler could also be a huge mental rather than physical threat to Batman and Bruce Wayne, which could be very interesting to watch unfold.

Riddler doesn't have to remain a physical weakling. Just update is unarmed combat to TDK Joker and make him an expert in using his cane like a bo-staff.

 

[Salemdog]

Something I posted in the casting thread that may work here in which may appear.


For your consideration, in keeping with Nolan's realverse, could the casting change or solidify with the following scenerios.

1.The triad, pissed that their guy was snatched by Bats, sends Lady Shiva to Gotham to take him out. In the mean time the Riddler, using modern tech, hacking, etc. to hit the banks and such is wrecking havoc. So Bats has to get the Riddler and avoid being exed by L. Shiva.

2.Penguin shows up in Gotham. He's a international arms dealer who got his moniker by having a tendency to wear traditional tuxes, is diminutive in size, and has a walk resembling a waddle due to a bum leg. He already has heard about Batman and sent Deadshot ahead to take him out, or at least distract him while he does business. (Don't forget a nasty brella)

3. Riddler, same as above, steals something valuable(as in extreme database) but Catwoman steals it from him(not knowing what it is) and Batman has to deal with getting it back from her, nailing the Riddler, and perhaps even protecting her from the Riddler.


Yeah, I know,pretty basic. But in a way so was Dark Knight, made extreme by the characters. Now, each though, has a real world vibe that I can see Nolan seeing in the next flick. And each has a Major and Minor villain arc he seems to prefer. By the way I used these a few years back and just rehashing them a bit.


Sorry for being brief but time constrant has only allowed to get the basics out and I'm sure you get the gist of it.

 

[thundercatsho]

The Penguin shouldn't be in any more Bat-films, he's the most boring villain in Batman's Rogues Gallery.

 

[thundercatsho]

I really want Mad Hatter now, it would be good psychologically because Batman would want to keep a child's innocence and trying to avoid having Gotham's children in trauma like he did. Mad Hatter could also have a connection with Catwoman if they put Holly in, he could kidnap her or something.

*cough*

 

[Asteroid-Man]

If they go with recasting the Joker than:

Joker
Ridler
Black Mask

If they don't recast the Joker, than I assume they'd use Two-Face for whatever Nolan had planned for the Joker in the next one (seeing how that was why he was killed off)

Two-Face
Ridler
Black Mask

 

[8wid]

Riddler
Penguin
Catwoman
Harley Quinn
Black Mask
Hush

 

[Greatwun]

My money is on the riddler

maybe catwoman

 

[blackbyrd]

The Siren, Chandelle, Bookworm, King Tut, Lord Ffogg, Dr. Cassandra, and Louie the Lilac, Clock King, Brainy Barrows

 

[GregComicFan]

The Riddler
Catwoman

maybe...

The Penguin

maybe...

Scarecrow again

Definitely...

another side third villain, like another mob boss.

 

[CaptainClown]

Rupert Thorne!
Hugo Strange! (can change his name though)

 

[Greatwun]

Rupert Thornet:

 

[CaptainClown]

I want Rupert Thorne to unite the old school mob together and have Penguin and possibly Black Mask bring up the new freak wave. Make it an all out crime war, and they bid for the identity of Batman which is investigated by Riddler and Hugo.

Also Selina is in the mix pissing off both sides