Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Who is the clairvoyant.

[cherokeesam]

Here's the thing, though: I don't see AOS plotlines *ever* informing plotlines of the movies.

The Clairvoyant, whoever he/she/it turns out to be, will likely be seen *only* on AOS, not in any of the movies. Same with Centipede, and villains like Raina, Quinn and Vanchat.

That's why I think it'd be a huge longshot to expect The Clairvoyant to turn out to be a movie character like Von Strucker, Zola, Scarlet Witch, Ultron or the like.

 

[cph9fa]

Here's the thing, though: I don't see AOS plotlines *ever* informing plotlines of the movies.

The Clairvoyant, whoever he/she/it turns out to be, will likely be seen *only* on AOS, not in any of the movies. Same with Centipede, and villains like Raina, Quinn and Vanchat.

That's why I think it'd be a huge longshot to expect The Clairvoyant to turn out to be a movie character like Von Strucker, Zola, Scarlet Witch, Ultron or the like.

I certainly doubt that the current season of AOS would significantly inform plotlines for a movie that won't be out for over a year. A Winter Soldier reference is much more likely, though I still tend to agree that you're probably right.

Any significant AoU references -- if they were to occur -- are almost certainly not going to occur before next season (and probably the 2nd half of that). And it would likely be more subtle, in terms of showing the state of the world that is building up to Ultron's creation.

 

[Gr0oT]

Thanks

Although I'm now thinking Ryker may be working for Von Strucker - who happens to be the Clairvoyant

Peterson being one of many prototypes leading up to Winter Soldier.
They would remove the human element in Bucky in order to avoid any form of resistance

Dude, how can Peterson be the prototype leading to the Winter Soldier when the Winter Soldier was evidently extracted from the location of his "death" in the mid-40s and then modified and preserved.

If anything the advances made in cybernetics made by whomever found the Winter Soldier in the MCU inspired the work of Cybertek.

If you're creating a MCU I don't see how you do yourself any favors by clumping histories together.

 

[Still Wynning]

Has anybody watched this video? An interesting theory by Emergency Awesome regarding the Clairvoyant's identity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WqbYaD3pr7A#t=180

 

[cherokeesam]

Has anybody watched this video? An interesting theory by Emergency Awesome regarding the Clairvoyant's identity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WqbYaD3pr7A#t=180

Yeah, that's what I and some others have said: The Clairvoyant is an AI.

The guy on YT has some interesting points to reinforce that, including making the concept of a rogue evil AI more palatable for Ultron (and even Zola in CATWS, if they do his comic-book incarnation justice), and in setting up a showdown between "superhacker" Skye vs. Evil AI Clairvoyant for the season finale.

I'll add to that: an AI that's "watching us" is a pretty topical and relevant story, too. Big Brother is everywhere these days, and the concept of a sentience within the Internet that's behind all that is frankly scary as hell. AI Clairvoyant is a lot more topical than HYDRA, Loki, Mentallo, Von Strucker or any of these comic book characters we're talking about.

Hell, a rogue AI Clairvoyant might be the setup for a meaningful --- and non-goofy --- version of MODOK in the MCU.

 

[Mattallica]

Centipede=Roxxon=the Brand corp.

the Clairvoyant= Alexsander lukin(roxxon owner)=Alexander Pierce(Redford)=Red Skull (consciousness trapped in pierce )

Skull wants to know how Coulson was brought back to life so he can Bring himself Back.

See-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxxon_Energy_Corporation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_Corporation

 

[cherokeesam]

Centipede=Roxxon=the Brand corp.

the Clairvoyant= Alexsander lukin(roxxon owner)=Alexander Pierce(Redford)=Red Skull (consciousness trapped in pierce )

Skull wants to know how Coulson was brought back to life so he can Bring himself Back.

See-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxxon_Energy_Corporation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_Corporation

That's....a pretty good theory.
The one sticking point I have is connecting the dots between Lukin and Pierce. Lukin --- a former Soviet general, handler of Winter Soldier (at least in the comics), and CEO of Kronas/Roxxon --- would really have no way of leading a double life as Alexander Pierce, high-ranking SHIELD administrator. He's too visible a public figure to be able to infiltrate SHIELD. Especially with his less than illustrious past.

And, on the business side of the studio, I'd strongly doubt that (a) Marvel could convince Robert Redford to do a stint on TV, and (b) that the studio would allow the plot of the TV show to be pivotal to the CATWS movie. Marvel Studios simply are not going to require viewers of CATWS to also be well-versed in the events of AOS, and, again, there's no way in hell they're going to convince Bob to do TV.

 

[Just_Human]

Centipede=Roxxon=the Brand corp.

the Clairvoyant= Alexsander lukin(roxxon owner)=Alexander Pierce(Redford)=Red Skull (consciousness trapped in pierce )

Skull wants to know how Coulson was brought back to life so he can Bring himself Back.

See-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxxon_Energy_Corporation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_Corporation

I rewatched CATFA yesterday, and Red Skull says : " I have seen the future "

It could mean nothing .... or something

 

[iambranded]

I'm thinking Ultron.....but we wont know the extent of all his dealings till the Avengers movie next year...but he has a ton of pawns at his disposal... Centipede is a branch of AIM or Hydra...there all related somehow

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Not my official guess, just another random thought...

What better way to know the future than to be from it?.... Kang the Conqueror. A watered-down version admittedly, but just an idea.

 

[iambranded]

Not my official guess, just another random thought...

What better way to know the future than to be from it?.... Kang the Conqueror. A watered-down version admittedly, but just an idea.

The term clairvoyance (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is used to refer to the ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through means other than the known human senses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense


Ultron
Kang
....you made a good point about Kang....although that an Avengers heavy hitter who im sure will need to show up sooner rather than later.....but with Thanos in the mix in the movies for the next couple years im guessing it might not

 

[Heretic]

I find it much more likely that it's just a high ranking SHIELD agent who has access to their files and mission plans. This could then hint at corruption in the organization that would be expanded upon in Captain America, while the plot of Cap 2 wouldn't require you to have seen AoS. So, this show would be kind of a bonus to know more about the world that the movies take place in.

 

[The Sarge]

I'll be upset if it's NOT the leader. So far, everything matches up with his kind of thing, and he's already had an origin, but other than this show, what are they gonna do with him? Plus, he's got an interesting look that seems affordable on a TV budget.

 

[thejon93]

I've been thinking about this quite recently, with false faces and what-not, what if Jeff Bridge's character from the very first Iron Man was the real Mandarin all along and he simply faked his death by living the life of another guy? There's stuff from the past that's left wide open and, with Michael Douglas' older Ant-Man coming into play in the new Ant-Man film, I think that we can expect some of the blanks to be properly filled in to their rightful place. I'd just love to see Jeff Bridges back to be perfectly honest.

 

[Shakel92]

I'll be upset if it's NOT the leader. So far, everything matches up with his kind of thing, and he's already had an origin, but other than this show, what are they gonna do with him? Plus, he's got an interesting look that seems affordable on a TV budget.

I was hoping for the Leader, especially last night's comments about Blonksy. However, since the clairvoyant seems to know when Shield is going to show up, and now has a grenade that is extremely similar to the "Night-Night gun" I think it has to be someone who already works with/for Shield. Or, it is the Leader and someone who works for him is involved with Shield.

 

[cph9fa]

It's implied that the clairvoyant sees whatever his eye-implanted minions see, right? So obviously that's how he knows everything...

Instead of him being a SHIELD insider, he could secretly have people inside SHIELD who have the eye implant, and he's watching them that way. Like imagine if, instead of being sent on random diamond heists, Akela Amador had been released back to SHIELD, and ordered to keep quiet. If he played his cards well, the Clairvoyant could have several moles inside SHIELD with none the wiser.

I thought of this last night while reading an old Captain Marvel issue with the Controller, who used "slave discs" to control a horde of thralls in high-level government positions (and Rick Jones' girlfriend), in preparation for Thanos' invasion. What if the Clairvoyant is like that -- or maybe the Clairvoyant is the Controller?

I don't think that's the case, but it's an interesting thought...

 

[marcvader]

The Clairvoyant is Pierce!

 

[thejon93]

The Clairvoyant is Pierce!

Spoiler

 

[Artistsean]

Its gonna end up being a crossover with Person of Interest and the Machine/computer
will be the Clairvoyant! A computer that hears and records everything to monitor for
threats of terror but is a learning AI (and those always turn evil). It hacked into every
computer, cell phone, camera, etc, and SHIELD is gonna have to stop it...

Oh, wait, its Barbara Gordon:

 

[Artistsean]

Seriously though, I am gonna guess maybe it is M.O.D.O.K., he is AIM and the clairvoyant's tech is super advanced at a super rate.

But maybe in a more realistic form, like a living computer thing.

 

[marcvader]

Eagle Eye with Shia Lequeef was the same thing.

 

[Shakel92]

I think it is going to tie in to CA:TWS.

 

[misjuevos]

I was also thinking the clairvoyant was from the future. Reminds me of sinsear from the old cable series.

 

[Zarex]

Agent Blake

 

[Dregride]

agent hand is working with the clairvoyant.
that's she sent Ward and Fitz out with no extraction without telling the team
and why she was hindering the teams ability to rescue Coulson quickly