Sequels Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

[Still A ThorFan]

I'd rather see Thor kick their asses himself, that could be his film "intro" of sorts.

Yeah that would work, or maybe for Thor 3 since it looks like Thor 2 is already filled. Man I can't wait.

 

[KangConquers]

It's a shame there's such a fixation on Ultron. If you actually pick up Avengers Vol 1 and read it from issue 1-503, Kang is clearly the more important compelling Avengers villain, with 3 times as many appearances, more complex, philosophical issues, and more great stories.

Ultron is sort of a 1-dimensional rage monster with daddy issues, where as Kang has a myriad of interesting issues. I guess people just hate the go-go boots and say "Time travel gives me a headache."

 

[DrCosmic]

Here's my thought right now:

Ultron, uses his computer know how to subsersively bring the villain from Cap 2, Justin Hammer, Mandarin (or whoever survives IM3), Abomination, The Leader, and Kurse together to put the smackdown on the Avengers in clever ways. They are defeated and then Ultron springs his delicious ultimate trap, and takes on all the Avengers single handedly. Booyah.

 

[Chewy]

It's a shame there's such a fixation on Ultron. If you actually pick up Avengers Vol 1 and read it from issue 1-503, Kang is clearly the more important compelling Avengers villain, with 3 times as many appearances, more complex, philosophical issues, and more great stories.

Ultron is sort of a 1-dimensional rage monster with daddy issues, where as Kang has a myriad of interesting issues. I guess people just hate the go-go boots and say "Time travel gives me a headache."

i don't want time travel in the Avengers movies. Makes things unnecessarily complicated.

 

[KangConquers]

i don't want time travel in the Avengers movies. Makes things unnecessarily complicated.

And I don't want emo robots, so we're even.

 

[Chewy]

They can make Ultron a hipster, then

 

[KangConquers]

They can make Ultron a hipster, then

Make him an ice road trucker and I'm sold.

 

[Hyde]

Any ideas for potential Kang stories that could be used in Avengers 2?

 

[Chewy]

I'm pretty sure it's just going to be Thanos anyway

 

[KangConquers]

I'm pretty sure it's just going to be Thanos anyway

Definitely. Thanos will be in A2, and the Civil War will be A3.

I don't think we're going to get either Ultron or Kang in this trilogy.

 

[KangConquers]

Any ideas for potential Kang stories that could be used in Avengers 2?

Kang has 3 major goals

1. Avoiding his destiny: Kang goes from an ideal young genius, to a Warlord, to something of a cosmic custodian over the course of his life. Due to the complexities of time travel, Kang is often warring with his younger self (Iron Lad, who doesn't want to grow up to be a genocidal villain) or his older self (Immortus, who Kang views as a stuffy old scholar with no back bone.) Any sort of movie involving Kang coming into conflict with an alternate version of himself, and reality paying for it would be interesting.

2. Reviving his dead Lover: Kang has gone to great lengths to try to resurrect his lost love, Ravonna. One of the greatest stories involved a cosmic chess game against a cosmic being known as the Grand Master, using the Avengers as his champions against the squadron sinister.

3. Conquest: Unfortunately, The Avengers movie sort of steps on the toes of the Kang War, which in my opinion is the greatest Avengers story of all time. The story is basically reminiscent of Loki's War on the Avengers, except Kang actually wins, and rules the world for a short period of time.

none of the stories would translate directly, since many of them are dependent on Kang already knowing/ having some sort of relationship with the Avengers. That said, I still think he's a villain with massive cinematic potential.

 

[Chewy]

and the Civil War will be A3.

 

[KangConquers]

Unfortunately, Feige is very high on it, and has name dropped it several times, which makes it very likely that we'll see it down the road.

I hate the Civil War myself, but it's an event that had a huge Mainstream presence.

 

[Chewy]

I only remember him talking about it once when someone specifically asked him about it. And it seemed like he was being polite about its writers more than anything else.

 

[KangConquers]

I only remember him talking about it once when someone specifically asked him about it. And it seemed like he was being polite about its writers more than anything else.

I've seen him mention it at least 3-4.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Marvel-President-Kevin-Feige-Talks-Iron-Man-3-Future-30706.html

Spoiler

I keep hoping, particularly with Maria Hill being introduced in this film, that somewhere down the line we might see a movie based on Mark Millar and Steve McNiven’s Civil War. Obviously that’s a large scale thing, but do you think it’s something that Marvel could ever possibly do?

With the Fantastic Four in it?

Even without, just the characters that you have.

Well, if you want the best, right? I love it. I don’t see it as a part two, but beyond that I think it could be great. That’s one of the best crossover events we’ve done.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/marvel-s-kevin-feige-talks-future-projects

Spoiler

"Civil War was a great crossover story, with the superhero registration act where the government wants to force them to reveal their secret identities. Iron Man thinks it’s a good idea, Captain America disagrees, so that leads to a sort of civil war." said Feige, but he's unsure when it will hit the screens, "I certainly don’t think we’ll see that before Avengers 3, so maybe that’ll be a good number for it, who knows.”

A guy like Feige will look at the fact that stories like Ultron Unlimited and the Kang Dynasty sold in the 30-40k range per issue, and that the Civil War sold in the 100k plus range, and had successful pop-culture immersion, and chose the latter over the former.

 

[Chewy]

But again, those interviewers are specifically asking him about Civil War, and he's answering them. Comic sales won't be the basis on which the story is chosen; 100k is still nothing in terms of pop culture relevance. The Geoff Johns Green Lantern stuff was always a huge seller in comic book terms and people ignored that movie completely.

The movies are a chance to introduce some of those long-term villains to audiences, and maybe make sure the next time Kang or Ultron shows up in the comics they'll sell better. The Avengers sequels will be huge even if they're adapted from the most obscure arcs ever.

 

[Hyde]

I wonder, if we see Kang as a villain before Infinity Gauntlet, he'll be in possession of the Time Gem?

 

[KangConquers]

But again, those interviewers are specifically asking him about Civil War, and he's answering them. Comic sales won't be the basis on which the story is chosen; 100k is still nothing in terms of pop culture relevance. The Geoff Johns Green Lantern stuff was always a huge seller in comic book terms and people ignored that movie completely.

The movies are a chance to introduce some of those long-term villains to audiences, and maybe make sure the next time Kang or Ultron shows up in the comics they'll sell better. The Avengers sequels will be huge even if they're adapted from the most obscure arcs ever.

He basically says in no uncertain terms that Civil War would make a great Avengers 3.

I'll admit that Kang has no chance at being in an Avengers film until a recast. He may actually be used as a sort of reboot device (see the 2009 Star Trek film) for Avengers 4.

Ultron is probably the only classic Avengers villain with a legitimate shot, but I still would bet my bottom dollar on Civil War.

 

[KangConquers]

I wonder, if we see Kang as a villain before Infinity Gauntlet, he'll be in possession of the Time Gem?

My dream would be doing an Ultron movie for A2 with the Power Gem, a Kang movie in A3 with the time gem, and an Infinity Gauntlet movie outside of the Avengers trilogy. Unfortunately, that will never happen, given they'd have to renegotiate too many contracts, with Evans and Hemsworth probably asking 20-30 M to do another film.

 

[gzilla46]

I'd want to see The Abomination and Red Skull team up.

 

[Chewy]

He basically says in no uncertain terms that Civil War would make a great Avengers 3.

Yeah, but he's not going to say that Civil War would make a ****** Avengers 3. He's not going to badmouth the product Marvel's putting out. All I see there is a typical "Oh yeah, that would be fun, could be good" fluffy non-answer. It's not like he's bringing up Civil War, just answering a question

 

[Hyde]

Eh, I think they'll make seperate movies based on IG. If it's a trilogy and Part 1 is something like Thanos Quest with him finding the remainding Gems Cap and other Earth heroes wouldn't even be in it. Hell, Thor might not be. It would probably be the GOTG with Ms. Marvel, Mar-Vell and Silver Surfer.

That would be cool to see.

 

[Chewy]

A trilogy of Infinity Gauntlet movies? Why would there be a trilogy of Infinity Gauntlet movies?

 

[Hyde]

Because it would be epic.

 

[Hyde]

And it can't be done justice in one film.