Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

Discussion in 'The Avengers Sequels' started by The Overlord, Dec 3, 2011.

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Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel?

  1. Ultron

  2. Kang the Conqueror

  3. The Masters of Evil

  4. Thanos

  5. Count Nefaria

  6. Korvac

  7. Graviton

  8. Grim Reaper

  9. Grandmaster

  10. Other

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  1. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    I was never comparing any body parts. And if you're going to talk about Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, that's like comparing one man's prowess on Viagra to one who's not. The Infinity Gauntlet will pretty much make anyone much more powerful.
     
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  2. Captain Marvel

    Captain Marvel SHAZAM!

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    Given that we've seen an Infinity Gauntlet prop, and that's the storyline which Thanos is compared to the most, it's not unreasonable to talk about Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. The guys MO is that he goes after infinite power, and he's succeeded at that quest more than once. But even when he wasn't omnipotent, though, he was still a universal threat. After all, Death gave him the job of killing half the universe's population BEFORE he decided to go after the Infinity Gems, and had no clue that he would've ever gained that much power, so clearly she thought he could do the job. And recently he did kill off all life in the Cancerverse (A universe where Captain Marvel survived his cancer by making a deal with Lovecraftian horrors).

    But even without omnipotent power, on his own Thanos or horrendously power. This is a guy who took on a weakened Galactus alone. The combined might of Earth's heroes in the Secret Wars weren't able to do that. There's a great scene in The Infinity War where he's teamed up with the Infinity Watch and they get ambushed by a veritable army of Earth's superheroes. I think about 1/3rd of all Earth's heroes were present. So it was Thanos, Adam Warlock, Gamora, Pip the Troll, Drax the Destroyer, Moondragon, and Thanos's chair (Yeah, his chair alone is a major threat) versus a large chunk of Earth's heroes. The fight ended with about nine heroes still left standing versus Thanos, Adam Warlock, and Drax the Destroyer.

    Then there was the story when he pursued the Infinity Gems. He went after the Elder called Champion. This is a guy who's stronger and tougher than the Hulk, and he was made moreso powerful by the Power Gem. Thanos took this guy on with no gems and beat him. Not in a straight fist fight, of course, but he beat him just the same through the use of his own natural powers, his technology, and his intelligence, and got his hands on the Power Gem in the process.

    So yeah, I don't feel like I'm exaggerating when I say that Thanos is probably the best villain that Marvel has available to them, and if he's handled right, then he'd make for the perfect capstone to any film trilogy.
     
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  3. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    So which would you guys rather see as the villain in Avengers 3, Kang or Thanos?
     
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  4. MarvelKnight

    MarvelKnight Well-Known Member

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    Thanos.
     
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  5. Franklin Richards

    Franklin Richards Well-Known Member

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  6. roach

    roach I am the night

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    Thanos
     
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  7. Franklin Richards

    Franklin Richards Well-Known Member

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    I liked Thanos when he was called Darkseid.


    Save him for a Justice League movie.


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  8. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    It would make more sense for Ultron to be the villain in Avengers 2 not 3.
     
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  9. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Depends on how soon Hank Pym gets introduced.
    I do *not* want to see them turn Ultron or Vision over to anybody else but Hank Pym, so I don't want to see Ultron show up until after Pym joins the team.
     
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  10. Captain Marvel

    Captain Marvel SHAZAM!

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    I guess you're going to be disappointed.

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    And my guess is that when Thanos does make his inevitable appearance in an Avengers movie, he won't be played by Julian McMahon, either.
     
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  11. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Or Ultron could be Hank Pym's motivation for joining The Avengers because he feels responsible for Ultron's actions.
     
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  12. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Very good point.

    Although you could also say that SHIELD actively recruits him, even if he's not officially become (Gi)Ant-Man yet. We know that Pym was originally referenced in Thor as an important colleague of Selvig, so he's probably already well-known as a genius scientist who could add significantly to the Avengers' "brain trust" of Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Erik Selvig.
     
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  13. Chris B

    Chris B Well-Known Member

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    I think it would have to be either Kang or Ultron, personally. I'd lean towards using Kang since I'm not sure it work to use Ultron while introducing Hank Pym in the same movie.
     
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  14. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Yeah I could see that working as well, there's a multitude of ways to have Hank Pym and Ultron included in Avengers 2 if Marve Studios really wanted to.
     
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  15. Captain Marvel

    Captain Marvel SHAZAM!

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    Yeah, maybe he builds Ultron first for the Avengers, Ultron goes nuts, and Pym feels personally responsible and makes himself a suit so that he can stop Ultron. Is there any reason Hank has to be Ant-Man before he builds Ultron? He could always become Ant-Man afterwards.
     
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  16. MarvelKnight

    MarvelKnight Well-Known Member

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    I agree Captain Marvel. Ultron can be Pym's reason for becoming Ant-Man. Don't see why it could not be a viable option. At the very least, he can be seen in Avengers, even if it is a bit part. Some Pym is better than no Pym, imo.
     
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  17. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Yep exactly, so come on Marvel Studios give us some awesome Ultron action in Avengers 2. :up:
     
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  18. DrCosmic

    DrCosmic Professor of Power

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    I'm not sure that comic book power levels are all that relevant. There is no Galactus in the MCU, and you can see on the gauntlet, all the gems are in one place, so it's not like there's some separate storyline for the time gem or the power gem or whatever. Also, omnipotent villains in movies are cheesy because they have to do ridiculously stupid things to lose. Expect to see Thanos toned down so that a plausible (in terms of an intergalactic conqueror being smarter than an average child) story can be told.

    I still don't quite see Ultron. Especially since Edgar Wright's Ant Man is going to be set in the 60s, if it even comes out before Avengers 2. Maybe Pym can have invented Ultron, but he won't be on the team. Would people still want Ultron if the Pyms aren't in the movie?

    Kang doesn't have any such impediments. :) If anything, he can actually bring 60s Pym into the present day on a temporary or permanent basis. Ultron can't transport the Pyms through time to be in the Avengers movie.
     
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  19. The Morningstar

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    Darkseid, outside of the toons, was a joke since the Crisis up until only the last couple of years. He got defeated by a some steps for ****s sake! :D

    Thanos was originally a rip but he's been busier and better in the last couple of decades.

    Anyway... I think Kang could be a cool villain, if they don't get Pym involved and therefore, Ultron.
     
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  20. marcvader

    marcvader Lurker #1

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    I would prefer a well developed Hank Pym before Ultron so it would make the his creation that more meaningful and impactful. How does this happen if Wright makes his movie in the 60's? Don't know, but the Kang idea is kind of cool but would seem kind of contrived as well.
     
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  21. The Morningstar

    The Morningstar Well-Known Member

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    Well, Kang is a time traveller, is that what you'd find contrived? I think it could be cool if done well. He comes back because of a disturbance in the time line originating from the Avengers one.
     
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  22. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Edgar Wright's supposedly setting Ant Man in the 60s has been pissing me off to no end, doesn't he understand that just about every Avengers fan wants to see Hank & Jan as members at some point in this franchise?

    Not only that, but Ultron is one of the best Avengers villains ever and his twisted father-son relationship with Hank is an important arch for Pyms as well. The Pyms would be far more useful in modern times where they can actually take part in the current events of the MCU than be isolated in the 60s.
     
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  23. marcvader

    marcvader Lurker #1

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    No, tying Pym to Kang to get him into the present day and Avengers.
     
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  24. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    I agree, that would definately seem a bit contrived.
     
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  25. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    The original Joe Cornish script was set in the 60s *and* the modern world, though --- with Pym being the "original" Ant-Man of the 60s, but the bulk of the movie was to focus on him mentoring Scott Lang as his successor in modern times.

    But all of that was with the first draft, years ago, and there's been tons of re-writes since then; the current version was just turned in to Marvel last fall, and nobody knows what (or who) it's going to be about. I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has convinced Wright/Cornish to focus on Pym, though, and drop the whole 1960s backstory angle.
     
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