Homecoming Who should be the Villain in Spider-Man (2017)? - Part 4

[Tg11]

Spider Man (1st film villain; Kraven The Hunter)

Spider Man 2 (sequel villains; Doc Ock; Venom)

Spider Man 3 (3rd film villain; Green Goblin)

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Spider Man (1st film villain; Kraven The Hunter)

Spider Man 2 (sequel villains; Doc Ock; Venom)

Spider Man 3 (3rd film villain; Green Goblin)

How would Venom and Doc Ock fit together in a film?

 

[ernesth100]

They can't use Venom....wait, nvm. If the new solo is successful they'll definately use Venom and scrap his solo.

 

[ernesth100]

How would Venom and Doc Ock fit together in a film?

Doc Ock creates Venom to destroy Spidey. But Spidey defeats Venom. After defeating the symbiote is weak and jumps onto Spidey. After realizing the symbiote failed, Ock attacks Spidey himself. Spidey fights Ock and wins but almost kills him under the influence of the symbiote. Later Peter removes the symbiote which is clearly changing him.

Afterwards the symbiote finds Eddy Brock whom used to be friends with Peter but Peter embarrassed while he was under the symbiotes influence. Ock is defeated but Venom will return to destroy Peter in a future film. Unless they can manage to squeeze in a final fight between Peter and Venom. Which should be easy enough. Only a few plot points. If they manage to squeeze in a fight Peter should defeat but not catch Venom. Venom should return in a later film.


-Venoms Origin
-Eddy Brocks Friendship With and Eventual Hate of Peter
-Otto Octavious Introduction and/or Turn To Evil
-Venom vs Spidey
-Symbiote Peter
-Symbiote Peter vs Ock
-Peter Overcomes Symbiote
-Peter vs Eddie Brock Venom
-End


Assuming the film is the usual 2 hours of any normal action/hero film, this should be a walk in the park.

 

[Tg11]

Doc Ock creates Venom to destroy Spidey. But Spidey defeats Venom. After defeating the symbiote is weak and jumps onto Spidey. After realizing the symbiote failed, Ock attacks Spidey himself. Spidey fights Ock and wins but almost kills him under the influence of the symbiote. Later Peter removes the symbiote which is clearly changing him.

Afterwards the symbiote finds Eddy Brock whom used to be friends with Peter but Peter embarrassed while he was under the symbiotes influence. Ock is defeated but Venom will return to destroy Peter in a future film. Unless they can manage to squeeze in a final fight between Peter and Venom. Which should be easy enough. Only a few plot points. If they manage to squeeze in a fight Peter should defeat but not catch Venom. Venom should return in a later film.


-Venoms Origin
-Eddy Brocks Friendship With and Eventual Hate of Peter
-Otto Octavious Introduction and/or Turn To Evil
-Venom vs Spidey
-Symbiote Peter
-Symbiote Peter vs Ock
-Peter Overcomes Symbiote
-Peter vs Eddie Brock Venom
-End


Assuming the film is the usual 2 hours of any normal action/hero film, this should be a walk in the park.

Which is why I suggested Venom and Doc Ock for the sequel but for the first one the platform would be used for Kraven to be the main villain and then for the 3rd film Green Goblin would be the villain that being Norman Osborn which would set up Harry to eventually become Green Goblin II as revenge for his father Norman

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Doc Ock creates Venom to destroy Spidey.

No!!! I don't want Doc Ock to have anything to do with him lol.

 

[I'm Venom]

Doc Ock creates Venom to destroy Spidey. But Spidey defeats Venom. After defeating the symbiote is weak and jumps onto Spidey. After realizing the symbiote failed, Ock attacks Spidey himself. Spidey fights Ock and wins but almost kills him under the influence of the symbiote. Later Peter removes the symbiote which is clearly changing him.

Afterwards the symbiote finds Eddy Brock whom used to be friends with Peter but Peter embarrassed while he was under the symbiotes influence. Ock is defeated but Venom will return to destroy Peter in a future film. Unless they can manage to squeeze in a final fight between Peter and Venom. Which should be easy enough. Only a few plot points. If they manage to squeeze in a fight Peter should defeat but not catch Venom. Venom should return in a later film.

-Venoms Origin
-Eddy Brocks Friendship With and Eventual Hate of Peter
-Otto Octavious Introduction and/or Turn To Evil
-Venom vs Spidey
-Symbiote Peter
-Symbiote Peter vs Ock
-Peter Overcomes Symbiote
-Peter vs Eddie Brock Venom
-End

Assuming the film is the usual 2 hours of any normal action/hero film, this should be a walk in the park.

Don't use certain characters if you can't even be bothered to stick to the source material. This is the exact kind of thing that leads to garbage like ASM2 and BvS.

 

[darthcoolness3]

Doc Ock creates Venom to destroy Spidey. But Spidey defeats Venom. After defeating the symbiote is weak and jumps onto Spidey. After realizing the symbiote failed, Ock attacks Spidey himself. Spidey fights Ock and wins but almost kills him under the influence of the symbiote. Later Peter removes the symbiote which is clearly changing him.

Afterwards the symbiote finds Eddy Brock whom used to be friends with Peter but Peter embarrassed while he was under the symbiotes influence. Ock is defeated but Venom will return to destroy Peter in a future film. Unless they can manage to squeeze in a final fight between Peter and Venom. Which should be easy enough. Only a few plot points. If they manage to squeeze in a fight Peter should defeat but not catch Venom. Venom should return in a later film.


-Venoms Origin
-Eddy Brocks Friendship With and Eventual Hate of Peter
-Otto Octavious Introduction and/or Turn To Evil
-Venom vs Spidey
-Symbiote Peter
-Symbiote Peter vs Ock
-Peter Overcomes Symbiote
-Peter vs Eddie Brock Venom
-End


Assuming the film is the usual 2 hours of any normal action/hero film, this should be a walk in the park.

reminds me of the current Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, and I hope they use never before seen Spider-Man villains like Kraven and Shocker. Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus have been way overused in the past 2 versions of Spider-Man.

If they redo Lizard, they should wait a few movies before using him, so it doesn't turn out to be a repeat of ASM 1, and I don't mind seeing Venom again, but please don't do Emo Peter and skateboard jockey New Goblin again.

For Venom, make him proper like in the comics, and don't use a skinny teenager like Topher Grace pretending to be the strong and powerful Venom.

We probably won't see Carnage, since his skills and actions are rated R and Disney and Marvel don't like doing R-rated movies because it will ruin their reputation as a family friendly brand.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

They say they going to use never used before villain for this one so you will get that one.

 

[harryoscop]

Yep, It's already been confirmed twice by Feige that they're using a villain that hasn't been used before.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Yes it confirmed. That why most people want Kraven or Mysterio.

 

[zeptron]

I'd be fine with either Mysterio, Vulture, Scorpion or Shocker. Though Shocker is would probably be more henchman material than as a main villain.

I honestly never was too crazy about Kraven though. I'd only be interested in seeing him in a movie is if Lizard was also in it and Kraven was hunting him.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me mysterio or vulture i still feel is the best ones for the first film. As they are totally different then past film villains. And i still feel going kraven or scorpion would be better suited as sequel stories. So we can build up spidey and the public hate on him. Yes we already know we will see new foes who havent been on screen yet. But come on folks its not like marvel wont end up using ock/goblin/lizard/etc.... types down the road. First film and second film likely all new guys. But i am sure we will see a few guys reused by 3rd film.

ERnsth i ot really fan of your venom/ock idea. It sounds to much like ultimate spiderman cartoon take on ock and venom and i do not want to see that. They really butchered ock and venom there i say.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I never thought in my life I would have opted for this one, but Scorpion.

I was never the biggest fan of Scorpion, but I feel like it fits right now. Seems to work as a compromise somewhere in between Ock/Goblin/Venom/Vulture.

 

[AvegningSpider]

#SpotforSM2017

 

[zeptron]

I never thought in my life I would have opted for this one, but Scorpion.

I was never the biggest fan of Scorpion, but I feel like it fits right now. Seems to work as a compromise somewhere in between Ock/Goblin/Venom/Vulture.

Plus it would be the opportunity for JJJ to get some character development.

 

[Webhead2006]

I want to see scoprion. But still I feel he better fit for sequel. So in first film we can play up jjj hate on spidey. And it then in sequel leads to him making scoprion and then scoprion goes after him and then jj has to swallow pride and let spidey help him. I just don't want to see thst out of the blue with out a little build up.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Initial thoughts:
1. Scorpion OR Mysterio/Chameleon
2. Kraven/black suit
3. Green Goblin

 

[Webhead2006]

For me if chameleon is in a pic I want him paired with kraven so we could play on there family tie. As for black suit come on no way we where going to see it in firs5 film. 2nd or 3rd maybe. And that was before the venom solo news. And if the venom film happens which I hope not. It likely nixs marvel doing symbiote and/or venom for awhile. Which I would be so ticked at.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

For me if chameleon is in a pic I want him paired with kraven so we could play on there family tie. As for black suit come on no way we where going to see it in firs5 film. 2nd or 3rd maybe. And that was before the venom solo news. And if the venom film happens which I hope not. It likely nixs marvel doing symbiote and/or venom for awhile. Which I would be so ticked at.

I'd like to see Mysterio/Chameleon as a duo. I think they mesh well together. Plus if something bad happens to Chameleon (jail/death) Kraven will be plenty mad at Spidey in the sequel.

oh and i meant:

Initial thoughts:
first. Scorpion OR Mysterio/Chameleon
sequel. Kraven/black suit
threequel. Green Goblin

 

[ernesth100]

Would anyone object to having Scorpion be connected to the Spider-Slayers?

 

[AvegningSpider]

Would anyone object to having Scorpion be connected to the Spider-Slayers?

Nope, Scorpion is supposed to be the Anti-Spider-Man, he being tied to the Spider-Slayers makes sense.

 

[SlamAdams]

There's already some precedent. He got upgrdes from Smythe when Smythe was Spider-Slayer

 

[Mike Murdock]

The 90s cartoon kind of had them based on the exact same anti-Spider-Man effort.

 

[harryoscop]

Initial thoughts:
1. Scorpion OR Mysterio/Chameleon
2. Kraven/black suit
3. Green Goblin

I've warmed up to the idea of Scorpion even though i'm generally not a fan of him.