Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version) - Part 1

[Webhead2006]

He can use psychological stuff and still not have a personal connection

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I'd rather see Scorpion and the Vulture before Mysterio. Never really been a big fan of his

Why you not like Mysterio?

 

[Web-Head]

Why you not like Mysterio?

He's grown on me. I just like other Spidey villains more and would rather see others first. Mysterio always seemed too over the top, mostly in the cartoons

 

[DOBSON10]

Well, I'm not one of those people who thinks just because they cast a young actor that there will be 4-5-6 movies. The furthest I'm willing to predict would be a Trilogy. So for me, I'd like to see them roll out the big guns. I don't necessarily have anything against some of the lesser known villains but if there is only going to be 3 movies I want to see major players, regardless of whether they have been used before or not (besides, none of them have been impressive to me anyway).

Green Goblin (Norman), Doc Ock, Venom and Carnage are the villains I want to see the most. Kraven and Lizard would be my second tier. The rest I'm lukewarm or indifferent on, couple others I don't like at all.

I'd also stay away from Harry becoming Goblin at any point, it's not as interesting to me. When Norman is done, let Goblin be done. Leave Harry as a supporting character, not a villain.

 

[The Villain]

I'd rather see Scorpion and the Vulture before Mysterio. Never really been a big fan of his, Joaquin Phoenix would make a good Quentin Beck though.

What about Hammerhead & Chameleon? Mysterio is my fav but could settle with Scorpion or the first two I mentioned.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Doctor Octopus needs some shine.

 

[CaptainWagner]

But does a villain who the hero has never met before, but uses psychological warfare to try to break the hero's spirit count as a personal foe?

Deny Mysterio the ability to use psychological warfare and you take away the best weapon he has. Mysterio is not as powerful as Spider-Man, so the best tool he has is williness to use any cruel trick to win. Mysterio is an adult and Spider-Man would still be a child at this point, Mysterio relying on smoke bombs and generic illusions makes him far less dangerous, Mystery trying to destroy a teenage Spider-Man's fragile psyche is far more ruthless then just then just sticking him in a haunted house or something.

If Mysterio is unsympatheticin this film, would he be just some jerk or a real monster? If Mysterio is more then just a jerk shouldn't he be totally ruthless? Why wouldn't he use psychological warfare to win?

Really if Mysterio is just a jerk, how he would he and his rivalry with Spider-Man be compelling at all? Why deny Mysterio the ability to use every nasty trick in the book to win? You are tying his hands behind his back if you don't let him pull out all the stops to win.

I guess it depends on who you define "psycological attacks". It can't be anything personal, bcause then Mysterio would have to know Peter. But his usage of fear and mind tricks, optical illusions and such all count as psychological attacks, to me. They just aren't personally directed at Spidey until the end, when Mysterio knows he's coming for him.

Well, I'm not one of those people who thinks just because they cast a young actor that there will be 4-5-6 movies. The furthest I'm willing to predict would be a Trilogy. So for me, I'd like to see them roll out the big guns. I don't necessarily have anything against some of the lesser known villains but if there is only going to be 3 movies I want to see major players, regardless of whether they have been used before or not (besides, none of them have been impressive to me anyway).

Green Goblin (Norman), Doc Ock, Venom and Carnage are the villains I want to see the most. Kraven and Lizard would be my second tier. The rest I'm lukewarm or indifferent on, couple others I don't like at all.

I'd also stay away from Harry becoming Goblin at any point, it's not as interesting to me. When Norman is done, let Goblin be done. Leave Harry as a supporting character, not a villain.

I definitly hope they plan on doing more than a trilogy. With someone this young, there's no reason to limit him.

And I agree, no Harry-Goblin this time around. It simply isn't interesting anymore. I'd much rather see him struggle with his Dad wanting to turn him into American Son. Which brings up another question? Could/Should the do a re-imagined version of Gabriel? Obviously not Gwen's son, but an illegitimate son of Norman's who is every bit the physical, ruthless fighter Norman wanted Harry to be?

 

[Chris B]

Doctor Octopus needs some shine.

Yeah, I'm hoping that we see him again sooner rather than later. It's been eleven years since S-M2 and I don't think the issue of overuse is there with him as it is with the Osborns/Green Goblin.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Yeah, I'm hoping that we see him again sooner rather than later. It's been eleven years since S-M2 and I don't think the issue of overuse is there with him as it is with the Osborns/Green Goblin.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Yeah, I'm hoping that we see him again sooner rather than later. It's been eleven years since S-M2 and I don't think the issue of overuse is there with him as it is with the Osborns/Green Goblin.

Actually that would be my ideal choice for a first villain but nobody seems to agree lol

 

[Godzillasaurus]

I want to at least see Goblin, Venom, and Carnage

 

[PeterBenParker]

Actually that would be my ideal choice for a first villain but nobody seems to agree lol

I want him, just not as the first villain.

I'd rather someone fun to start out, like Mysterio or Vulture. Save Doc Ock for the epic last villain of the trilogy, IMO.

 

[BatsDC]

Shocker would be perfect for the first villain under Tombstone

 

[Godzillasaurus]

The trend of every MCU film this far seems to be two primary villains at least. No matter the association (one working for another, both working together, or both being completely separate factions). So we could have two villains in each Spiderman movie.

 

[The Joker]

Doctor Octopus needs some shine.

Oh yes. I think enough time has passed since Spider-Man 2 that it doesn't feel like we've just seen him recently, unlike the Goblins who have been done to death. They need a long hiatus.

 

[Daedalus]

Oh yes. I think enough time has passed since Spider-Man 2 that it doesn't feel like we've just seen him recently, unlike the Goblins who have been done to death. They need a long hiatus.

I love Doc Ock, but I'd rather have him as a supporting character for most of the trilogy before he goes full-evil. And no getting him into Peter's body, either.

I think Norman and Harry are obligatory characters to have in the reboot since the beginning, but their aliases are not. We can have the Osbornes without the Goblins.

 

[The Joker]

I love Doc Ock, but I'd rather have him as a supporting character for most of the trilogy before he goes full-evil.

Doc Ock is not the supporting character type, unless you mean him as Dr. Otto Octavius in a support role until he becomes Doc Ock.

And no getting him into Peter's body, either.

There's as much chance of that happening as there is of Ben Reilly being Spider-Man.

I think Norman and Harry are obligatory characters to have in the reboot since the beginning, but their aliases are not. We can have the Osbornes without the Goblins.

Personally I don't care if the Osborns are there or not, just as long as we don't get a third round of the Goblin storyline in less than 15 years.

 

[Daedalus]

Doc Ock is not the supporting character type, unless you mean him as Dr. Otto Octavius in a support role until he becomes Doc Ock.

That's what I meant.

There's as much chance of that happening as there is of Ben Reilly being Spider-Man.

I know. And thank heavens for that. I just had to take a cheap shot at what was a horrible idea to begin with (even though the execution was quite impressive).

Personally I don't care if the Osborns are there or not, just as long as we don't get a third round of the Goblin storyline in less than 15 years.

I quite like the Osborns as characters, and Norman is a great villain regardless of his costume. But I agree, we can do without the Goblins for this movie.

On a side-note, Joker, great new avatar (it might be old though, I've been away for a couple of months). Nicholson's Joker just isn't appreciated enough.

 

[The Joker]

I know. And thank heavens for that. I just had to take a cheap shot at what was a horrible idea to begin with (even though the execution was quite impressive).

I loved it. Superior Spider-Man is the most I've enjoyed the Spidey comics in years. The Spider-Man writers have always shown glimpses and parallels of how Otto and Peter are mirror images of each other. It was great to see it finally taken to the maximum. It was a gamble of an idea, but it paid off big time I think.

On a side-note, Joker, great new avatar (it might be old though, I've been away for a couple of months). Nicholson's Joker just isn't appreciated enough.

Thank you. Yeah I love all the live action Jokers. From Romero to Ledger. All represent different interpretations of the Joker. All valid in their own way.

 

[Webhead2006]

Hammerhead I would see more as a secondary or henchmen type ole. For either kingpin or any of the other mob guys. Chameleon I see more as the spy type villain and we have to see kraven ties if kraven or him are used.

 

[Daedalus]

I loved it. Superior Spider-Man is the most I've enjoyed the Spidey comics in years. The Spider-Man writers have always shown glimpses and parallels of how Otto and Peter are mirror images of each other. It was great to see it finally taken to the maximum. It was a gamble of an idea, but it paid off big time I think.

I loved the comic as well (like I said on my last post, I found the execution most impressive), even though I really disliked the idea.

Thank you. Yeah I love all the live action Jokers. From Romero to Ledger. All represent different interpretations of the Joker. All valid in their own way.

I love Romero's one, he's just hilarious. I don't know why, but I always found the moustache under the make-up incredibly fitting.

Ledger is obviously great, but I'm not very excited for Leto's (I'll reserve proper judgement until I see the movie, of course).

Hammerhead I would see more as a secondary or henchmen type ole.

I agree. Silvermane, perhaps? We could have someone like Christopher Lee or Charles Dance for the role.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Christopher Lee as Silvermane would be amazing!

 

[Webhead2006]

I could see him doing it. As he did lord of the rings and star wars. Joining the mcu could be a thing he like to do.

Also what about al Pacino as a pick for silvermaine. Al has been vocal in wanting to join the mcu. And he is a cred name to bank on too like Lee.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I want him, just not as the first villain.

I'd rather someone fun to start out, like Mysterio or Vulture. Save Doc Ock for the epic last villain of the trilogy, IMO.

I would expect that to be Goblin tbh

 

[C Prometheus]

I would expect that to be Goblin tbh

I'm thinking that'll be Venom, especially if we end up getting the Symbiote costume during Infinity War.