Why are so many people deadset against showing the origin?

[GreenKToo]

Addicted to love.

It will all start with the director. I really hope they dont hire one that has re-imagining on the brain.

 

[solidsnake86]

why is it always guard who has the only post that dosen't amount to biased drivel?

"You absolutely HAVE to do it my way!"

"You obviously lack imagination if you dont want to see an origin movie"

"The ONLY reason people dont want an origin movie is because they still want donner"

With half the cockiness that goes on with these boards, with everyone thinking that they're bruce timm when they're spending their time typing pitches on a message board, I'd probably get a severe case of Schadenfreude if the next superman movie were purely based off pre crisis with a crazy scientist lex luthor

Thats funny, considering the guard barely likes anything thats not written by himself.

 

[KalMart]

Shock The Monkey

what if this new origin is worse than SR? That's the worry I have

Even if it comes out wrong, at least it was done for the right reasons.

 

[Frodo]

Don't worry, Be Happy

 

[GreenKToo]

Sharp dressed man.

If they're planning a production date of 2011, we should start hearing something soon.
(yeah, I keep telling myself that)

 

[KalMart]

Sharp dressed man.

HA! I used that already! t:

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Origins are for fanboys who love to cream their trousers while giggling at insider referecnes.

 

[GreenKToo]

ohh I missed it..how about rough boy then.

 

[KalMart]

Origins are for fanboys who love to cream their trousers while giggling at insider referecnes.

So what you're saying is that you're spent?



Stray Cat Strut

 

[GreenKToo]

I can't drive, 55

I keep my options open. I think it best not to get your hopes up on an origin or non-origin. That way you won't get burned when its announced which direction they're going.

 

[Kal-El Fan]

no truer statement was ever made

Thanks, the only caveat I'd add to what I said is that I thought the pilot did an excellent job of retelling the crash/discovery thing. Having Clark's ship land in a meteor shower was great. It planted the seeds for some of the show's elements, and made it nearly impossible to detect the ship's landing. Unless you looked closely (i mean on radar, satellite, etc) it would likely be mistaken as just another meteorite.

I'd love an origin movie!

Lots of people say they want a new take on the character to get away from S:TM and the Donnerverse, then they'll say "We don't need an origin movie, it's been done before. If you want an origin, watch S:TM"

At least an origin "Batman Begins" type movie would cement the fact that the two are in no way connected.

I agree, the main reason I think we need some type of new origin, is to show that this is a new continuity and not connected to anything that has come before. I don't really care as to how they go about it, as long as it's entertaining, and not too much of a "reinvention."

 

[DIRECTOR]

With any new franchise, you must go GROW with the protanganist. Especially with a protanganist like SUPERMAN, you have to see his younsters years, you have to see where he came from and WHY he IS.

You can't just pull a Superman Returns on the public with a brand new actor and expect us to accept him

 

[KalMart]

But you don't always have to see it the same old linear A to B to C way, though.

 

[sdc10]

With any new franchise, you must go GROW with the protanganist. Especially with a protanganist like SUPERMAN, you have to see his younsters years, you have to see where he came from and WHY he IS.

You can't just pull a Superman Returns on the public with a brand new actor and expect us to accept him

But the thing is we already know why he is. Im not dead set against an origin, im just dead set against devoting the entire first half of the movie to it.

 

[Dave_W]

How about the second half then?

These things don't have to be linear as we all know. How about the first film starts when he arrives in Metropolis, but he only discovers his heritage in the second (when Brainiac turns up )?

 

[El Payaso]

But the thing is we already know why he is. Im not dead set against an origin, im just dead set against devoting the entire first half of the movie to it.

Well, Batman Begins didn't do too bad doing it that way.

 

[Webhead2006]

Rock me Amadeus.

Lex could be interesting if they would take him seriously. I'd like to see him be a brilliant, extremely wealthy, inventive, arrogant a$$ of a man who is just slighty older than Superman. He HATES people, but tolerates them because they're a means to an end.

Lex would be comfortable in his own skin. He pretty much rules metropolis from Lex-corp. He has taken over numerous corporations through questionable means.
He has successfully avoided several criminal investigations. ( money talks)
Beautiful women throw themselves at him left and right. Lifes good, but something is missing.

Then Superman arrives and turns Lex's world upside down, but gives him what it was that is missing, Someone that can challenge him.

That is the lex i want to see.

 

[The Batman]

Ahh The Batman comes in and again makes a post about how dumb the people who disagree with him and The Guard are.

Is there anyother The Batman post?

I haven't the faintest idea why I haven't put him on ignore yet???

How about this:

Screw pre-crisis and Donner's Superman. I've disliked every single Superman movie so I want something that I will like now, other people be damned.

My idea is the best way to go about it to me because thats what I want to see in a Superman movie. I don't want a mixture of the two.

I do think Business man Lex is the best and only version that I care to see

I do think that the next movie should be a mostly hardcore orgin and post-crisis movie...like 99%

If WB comes out with another Donner-lite movie and I like it I wouldn't deny liking it but it's not what I want. I doubt I'm going to get things exactly how I want them but I still want them that way.

I'm not going to pretend to be f**king diplomat when it comes to this subject. End of Story.

Oh, look, I See Spidey wants attention again...lol....

 

[The Batman]

Thats funny, considering the guard barely likes anything thats not written by himself.

At this point, can't say I blame him...this looks like its going to be 2004 all over again...

 

[sdc10]

Well, Batman Begins didn't do too bad doing it that way.

Well, I like how BB did it in the way that it was interspliced with what was going on in the present as well. I just dont wanna see the first 45 mins to an hour all about how supes crash lands on a farm and gets raised by the Kents.

 

[Kal-El Fan]

I'm definitely pro-origin, but I do want it in a new, non-linear way, ala Batman Begins or some of the other methods mentioned here.

 

[Timstuff]

That's why I think now is a great time to do a new origin movie. Thanks to modern film making techniques such as nonlinear storytelling, we can get an origin story that feels remarkably different from the Donner one and tells the story in a more efficient and paced way.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Nonlinear storytelling is a modern filmmaking technique?

 

[El Payaso]

That's why I think now is a great time to do a new origin movie. Thanks to modern film making techniques such as nonlinear storytelling, we can get an origin story that feels remarkably different from the Donner one and tells the story in a more efficient and paced way.

Excuse me, non-linear storytelling is a modern filmmaking technique?


EDIT

Nonlinear storytelling is a modern filmmaking technique?

LOL, I swear I didn't see this when I replied. But yes, what BR19 said.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yup like i and others have said its good to have origins still their if this is a fresh start new beiginings and all that. And it doesnt have to be krypton-smallville-metropolis set up. Their is so many different ways directors/writers can go about it. And i am sure with the right story and plot this time around they can make everything new and fresh, not reinventing the wheel and freshen up everything.