Why are so many people deadset against showing the origin?

[Webhead2006]

i dont think that would fly well with everyone lol.

 

[KalMart]

i dont think that would fly well with everyone lol.

Screw 'everyone'...if it makes for a kickass movie, then go for it!

 

[Frodo]

Nice krypton/jorel ideal their david. As for frodo's idea of zod is kalel's real father its an interesting idea. But i dont really want to have a massive change like that for change of things. We dont need to reinvent the wheel with the origin/background. We need a good story and shown in a new light so its not like smallville/lois and clark/STAS or donner. But their inlays the problem of how to do it and what story to tell.

Jor El is still Kal El's father in my version . I wouldn't change something that . Lol. My idea was that Jor El was a mentor and father figuare to Zod . Therefore when Jor El sends him to the phantom zone , Zod's vengence against Jor El is more out of betrayal . It just add's an extra dimension to Zod's vengence against Jor El and Kal El.

 

[Frodo]

Nice krypton/jorel ideal their david. As for frodo's idea of zod is kalel's real father its an interesting idea. But i dont really want to have a massive change like that for change of things. We dont need to reinvent the wheel with the origin/background. We need a good story and shown in a new light so its not like smallville/lois and clark/STAS or donner. But their inlays the problem of how to do it and what story to tell.

Jor El is still Kal El's father in my version . I wouldn't change something that . Lol. My idea was that Jor El was a mentor and father figuare to Zod . Therefore when Jor El sends him to the phantom zone , Zod's vengence against Jor El is more out of betrayal . It just add's an extra dimension to Zod's vengence against Jor El and Kal El.

 

[KalMart]

They should make Braniac a female....

 

[Webhead2006]

well then that would kinda be ripping on the whole star trek borg queen deal.

 

[KalMart]

Nah...this would be better.

 

[Wheels]

And then they could turn Superman into a stalker and a deadbeat dad...

... nevermind...

 

[The Batman]

No more Donner crap please. If I never see General Zod again it will be too soon.

Just so I know...

Everyone is aware that General Zod is a character from the comics right? You all, being superman fans of course, realize that Zod appeared in comics 15+ years before he appeared in S:TM?

Because between this and lumping in Donner's Superman with Pre Crisis Comic Book Superman, I'm seriously starting to worry...

 

[Wheels]

I didn't know that, so thanks for enlightening me. The oldest Superman stuff I've read is from the 80s. I'm not as knowledgeable in regards to Superman comics, I'm more of a Batman guy. Forgive my ignorance.

 

[Octoberist]

Just so I know...

Everyone is aware that General Zod is a character from the comics right? You all, being superman fans of course, realize that Zod appeared in comics 15+ years before he appeared in S:TM?

Because between this and lumping in Donner's Superman with Pre Crisis Comic Book Superman, I'm seriously starting to worry...

I'm starting to worry too.

 

[lespaul59]

Just so I know...

Everyone is aware that General Zod is a character from the comics right? You all, being superman fans of course, realize that Zod appeared in comics 15+ years before he appeared in S:TM?

Because between this and lumping in Donner's Superman with Pre Crisis Comic Book Superman, I'm seriously starting to worry...

Yep, his first apperence was was in Adventure Comics(starring Superboy) issue #283 in 1961. But his appearence in STM/SM2is probaly what the character is most know from. And if I'm not mistaken(which I might be) the General Zod from Superman: Last Son is now the real Zod. Which was written by Geoff Johns and Richard donner. So in my opinion Zod should be left out of the new movie or movies as a villian if for anything to leave room for a villian that hasn't been used before.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Just so I know...

Everyone is aware that General Zod is a character from the comics right? You all, being superman fans of course, realize that Zod appeared in comics 15+ years before he appeared in S:TM?

Because between this and lumping in Donner's Superman with Pre Crisis Comic Book Superman, I'm seriously starting to worry...

I have to agree, BUT you have to remember, that before Superman: The Movie and Superman 2 General Zod was just a minor villain, the real evil Kryptonian was Jax-Ur.

 

[GreenKToo]

They should make Braniac a female....

Make *it* both male and female.. one scene it would be female, the next male.
Make it this really freaky alien being. It has absorbed so many civilizations that it has taken on the persona of them. Kinda like someone with multiple personalities, except it would actually look like the one talking to Superman ie: morphing into this or that being but still looking mostly like Brainiac.

 

[KalMart]

Now you're gettin' kinky.

 

[The Batman]

I have to agree, BUT you have to remember, that before Superman: The Movie and Superman 2 General Zod was just a minor villain, the real evil Kryptonian was Jax-Ur.

Which proves my point exactly: Zod dosent have to be Terrance Stamp if he appears in another movie. Zod is not a creation of
richard donner.

Yep, his first apperence was was in Adventure Comics(starring Superboy) issue #283 in 1961. But his appearence in STM/SM2is probaly what the character is most know from. And if I'm not mistaken(which I might be) the General Zod from Superman: Last Son is now the real Zod. Which was written by Geoff Johns and Richard donner. So in my opinion Zod should be left out of the new movie or movies as a villian if for anything to leave room for a villian that hasn't been used before.

agreed

 

[GreenKToo]

Now you're gettin' kinky.

 

[Octoberist]

as much as I like Zod, he's interesting to a certain point then you realize he's just another Superman with a goatee and awesome slick back hair. That's why I think we need someone else like a Brainiac or a Metallo. Or give me Bizarro.

 

[MechaOrga]

doesn't all star superman have like a 3-4 panel origin story, right in the beginning of issue one? I would love the next film to do that. like a 5 minute origin, and boom--we go to a full blown superman film.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well yea i wouldnt want to see zod right off the bat either again, i do would like to see the character mentioned so down the road if they wanted to use him to have him. But yea at least first two films in a new series should be about characters who havent made it to the big screen yet like brainiac, mongul, metallo, etc.....

 

[KalMart]

Panama - Van Halen

 

[Webhead2006]

whats up with that whole name a song deal you guys been doing?

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I believe fans are projecting their own skewed perception onto the general audience. The fans know Superman's origin, and have been following the character for decades. They've read the comics, watched the old movies, and grown up on the cartoon. So they think the origin has been played out.

It's not. The last time they did the Superman origin for real on a feature film was back in 1978. I fully believe that Superman Returns failed to relaunch the character because it didn't bother launching the character at all; it basically neglected all the younger people who were watching Superman for the first time.

Batman's origin is just as well known as Superman's. Yet Batman Begins still did the origin, and was a huge success. Even a well known origin can seem fresh with quality writing and directing that plays up the best aspects of it and adds some new interpretations and ideas.

We haven't seen a feature film depicting Krypton with state of the art CGI. Clark's upbringing and why he has unshakeable morals. Why he decides to don the costume for the first time. The Clark/Lois romance without a made-up illegitimate super-son. Lex Luthor as a self-made "superman" with a corporate empire, instead of three lowly thugs and a lame real-estate scam.

 

[El Payaso]

Make *it* both male and female.. one scene it would be female, the next male.

 

[Webhead2006]

I believe fans are projecting their own skewed perception onto the general audience. The fans know Superman's origin, and have been following the character for decades. They've read the comics, watched the old movies, and grown up on the cartoon. So they think the origin has been played out.

It's not. The last time they did the Superman origin for real on a feature film was back in 1978. I fully believe that Superman Returns failed to relaunch the character because it didn't bother launching the character at all; it basically neglected all the younger people who were watching Superman for the first time.

Batman's origin is just as well known as Superman's. Yet Batman Begins still did the origin, and was a huge success. Even a well known origin can seem fresh with quality writing and directing that plays up the best aspects of it and adds some new interpretations and ideas.

We haven't seen a feature film depicting Krypton with state of the art CGI. Clark's upbringing and why he has unshakeable morals. Why he decides to don the costume for the first time. The Clark/Lois romance without a made-up illegitimate super-son. Lex Luthor as a self-made "superman" with a corporate empire, instead of three lowly thugs and a lame real-estate scam.

I feel the same way, with the right story, and new look/style we can freshen things up well keeping us comic fans happy and giving the general viewers some great things.