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Why Do Girls Like jerks?

ComicChick04 said:
i can agree with that, 5 yrs ago i was 16 and i was... definitely different than i am now.

i meant it more along the lines of people seem to rush into marriages and such these days.

for instance, one of my friends broke up with a guy in june, started dating a guy from our work around the end of july, broke up with him the first week of september and started dating another guy mid to late september. she'd met him like 2 days earlier.

they married early december and are already having a lot of problems. i think when people rush into things like this, divorce rates are much higher cuz they haven't been with the other person long enough to really know them.

I'll go with you there, people act like they have to move fast or they will miss out.
Moving in with someone is a great idea, you can find out if you can actually tolerate their existance in closed quaters. Even though I would recommend keeping an apartment still incase things go sour.
 
Paradoxium said:
Ignoring Pook's eccentric prose. I think he makes a similar point as you. If you read through his stuff, he was bashing pickup artists and jerk imitators. His point is to be your own man, find your own definition and drives. Adding a healthy dose of testosterone (naturally from workouts and diets) is one of those fundamental pillars. That's my cliffs notes on it.
I don't agree with him. What's you may be exactly what's been holding you back. Part of life is growing, and to do that there has to be a degree of discomfort with your current state...or else you would simply choose to be the same day in day out. Most disgruntled people who find themselves out of luck with women truly have zero social skills, and thats how what PUAs and "Jerks" do. While no one is asking you to throw away your Star Wars collection or stop your local trips to the comic shop, we are telling you to stop letting that lifestyle relegate you to a life of lonliness.

There are, like anything else, rules to normal conversation and rules to getting women..."just being yourself" does not mean talking about what you want to talk about.

Also your testosterone level is genetic, trust me Kieth Richards judging by his size, and shape has low testosterone but he gets more women than you do. Testosterone is a pheromone, it is smelled and precieved by other women...you cannot sufficiently adjust your testosterone level by working out and dieting to make a huge difference. I have high testosterone and so does Ah-nuld simply because we do...not because we work out, or results in the gym are a result of this.

Also working out for the sake of getting women is a horrible idea, fat guys get hot chicks and some gym obsessed models don't. You still have to know the rules of general conversations, have to master skills of what to say and how to say it. Just like in a job interview.
 
Pook is a pretty big and controversial figure amongst the Don Juans and Pickup Artists. He openly bashes Juggler and Mystery (Erik Markovich), yet these guys still post up his material on their site and forum. The reason he bashes the pickup artists is because their focus is on the woman (seduction by facade). He asserts you should develop you inner core first. The notion finding a women will suddenly make life suddenly better or purposeful is false.

He also supports testosterone (i.e. pumping weights) not for getting women (more of a sideeffect), rather it helps with discipline and drive (i.e. goals). These qualities very much tie in with confidence and boldness.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
just about everything in this thread.


i've agreed with more of what you've said that that dredge of Pook's.

ShadowBoxing said:
Also working out for the sake of getting women is a horrible idea, fat guys get hot chicks and some gym obsessed models don't. You still have to know the rules of general conversations, have to master skills of what to say and how to say it. Just like in a job interview.

the same could be said both ways. if you're gonna make changes, do it for yourself, not for others.
 
Paradoxium said:
Pook is a pretty big and controversial figure amongst the Don Juans and Pickup Artists. He openly bashes Juggler and Mystery (Erik Markovich), yet these guys still post up his material on their site and forum. The reason he bashes the pickup artists is because their focus is on the woman (seduction by facade). He asserts you should develop you inner core first. The notion finding a women will suddenly make life suddenly better or purposeful is false.

He also supports testosterone (i.e. pumping weights) not for getting women (more of a sideeffect), rather it helps with discipline and drive (i.e. goals). These qualities very much tie in with confidence and boldness.
Well then he is an idiot, because pumping weights won't increase your testosterone levels unless your predisposed to high testosterone levels.
 
Ugh, too much dumb on the screen. Not to mention the fact that it's late.

Later folks.
 
ComicChick04 said:
i've agreed with more of what you've said that that dredge of Pook's.
I don't even understand half of it, it sounds like zen bullcrap supported by this testosterone mumbo-jumbo.

Basically to sum it up, if you want to get women: pump weights. Raise your testosterone levels. You take steroids to raise your testosterone levels, while lifting weights will have a similar affect...it will be so negilible no one would take note. Also weight training has zero affect on your personality unless weight training is the focus and not getting girls.

WEIGHT TRAINING AND EXERCISE WILL NOT GET YOU GIRLS.

Lets review
Justin Timberlake: Scrawny, but toned
Guy with two hawt chicks at Henry's last Night: F***ing obese.
Style and Mystery (PUAs): Scrawny as all hell.
Kieth Richards and Mick Jagger: Bean poles.


The fact that most women find Bodybuilders unattractive should pretty much refute everything Pook says, their testosterone levels are so high it's dangerous.
the same could be said both ways. if you're gonna make changes, do it for yourself, not for others.
That's the only reason I lift weights.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
That's the only reason I lift weights.

:up:

the guys that pool is telling everyone to be, i wouldn't be interested in. they sound shallow and mindless

to make it sound nerdy and since this is a comic site per se, it's like pook is telling all the guys to be like wolverine.

but i'd rather have iceman anyday.
 
The girls I have asked this question too doesn't know how to answer this. Acting confident is not confidence. It sucks but being a jerk works.
 
Its simple, most women don't want the ideal guy. They want the person who is good for right now. This leads most of them to keep choosing a jerk.
 
Caliber said:
Its simple, most women don't want the ideal guy. They want the person who is good for right now. This leads most of them to keep choosing a jerk.

most, but not all.

i want Mr. Right, not mr. right now
 
Caliber said:
Its simple, most women don't want the ideal guy. They want the person who is good for right now. This leads most of them to keep choosing a jerk.

I buy that. When a woman lists her "ideal" man it is who she will "settle for" not who she "wants". From what I have observed.
 
ComicChick04 said:
most, but not all.

i want Mr. Right, not mr. right now

Thats why I said most. I know thats not what you want.
 
Caliber said:
Thats why I said most. I know thats not what you want.

ive never understood why girls prefer jerks though. i mean, the novelty of it has to run off sooner or later
 
ComicChick04 said:
ive never understood why girls prefer jerks though. i mean, the novelty of it has to run off sooner or later

I haven't seen its novelty stop. I know alot girls who tend to find the wrong guy and I just listen because its the same each time.
 
Caliber said:
I haven't seen its novelty stop. I know alot girls who tend to find the wrong guy and I just listen because its the same each time.

i wish i had a dollar for every phone call i've gotten from friends crying over their jerky boyfriends.

i think most think they can change them but u cant make anyone change who doesn't want to
 
ComicChick04 said:
i wish i had a dollar for every phone call i've gotten from friends crying over their jerky boyfriends.

i think most think they can change them but u cant make anyone change who doesn't want to

People won't change if people want them too. Funny how its the same story but yet no one learns from the past.
 
So thats how the guys from bangbus do it.
 
Is that a new bruise you got on you? What does it say, that he loves you?
 
I know i was just trying to be funny
 
It's cool. I used to think it was real.
 
C-$ said:
I was talking to some of my coworkers at work and one of them who happens to be a female (Katy)was telling how guys should act towards women.She was saying that girls like guys who are confident ect and this guy kind of interrupts and says "act like a a$$hole", that'll work. Even Katy admiited that girls like jerks which sucks becuase nice guys like me never get anywhere. It's been like that all of my life. I can never get the girl that I want but I get the left overs(you know what I mean) instead.

Ladies, why do like guys that act like *******s?

I think that saying we like jerks is an incorrect statement, but you do have a point.
The thing is, women like men who portray themselves in a confident way, and the problem is, these "jerks" are always sweet, charming and fabulous to begin with. It's only after the woman becomes attached that the "jerk" persona becomes visible, by which time the woman is too attached to walk away that easily.
Trust me, I'm talking from personal experience. The truth is, we don't like jerks, it's just that they are the best at what they do, deceiving us into believing that they are something special. We tend to then blame ourselves for them being jerks, believing that it must have been something we did to make them that way. I now understand from bitter experience, that NOTHING gives a human being the right to be in any way, shape or form hateful to another. I've been through hell, and should be the most bitter and twisted person alive, but I refuse to start being crappy to people, just because I've had it happen to me.

A message for the nice guys out there, most women (well, the nice and decent ones anyway) prefer for men to approach them, as they worry about being perceived as a **** if they make the first move. I know you nice guys tend to be a little shy, but please come forward! I'm so sick of only apparently attracting the jerks, and I'd really like to find one of the nicer ones out there.

A message for the ladies who have blamed themselves (or still are) for their Prince Charming becoming a jerk. I don't care what he says, you are not to blame. Trust me when I say he was a jerk to begin with, but kept it covered up because he knew damned well you wouldn't look at him twice if you knew what an arrogant arse he really was.
 
^^^AMEN BRITROGUE.^^^
amen.
and also ladies, thinking you can take that rough and tough alpha dog dominant ass and make him into a sensitive lover, don't bother.
it doesn't work.
if it's apparent they've got problems when you meet them, you can't change them and believe me, no matter how many times they say "i want to change for you", it doesn't work.
just back out of the room slowly.
 

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