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Why Don't Games Come Out When They're Advertised To?

THWIP* said:
WHEN I CALLED THEM TODAY, I WAS TOLD "WE DON'T HAVE IT" AND "I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE'LL GET IT".......JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TIME THEY'VE SHELVED A GAME A DAY LATE. :rolleyes:

If you aks me when it comes to the popular stuff the workers probably get whatever copies they have that they want & by the time release date comes they are out of copies first shipment
 
Why would you buy that POS game anyway? It's the same as buying Prey.
 
The Joker said:
I'm not blaming the people, the entire pre-order concept is ******ed. Why not just order enough games for everyone?

How are they suppossed to know how many to order? Keep in mind that while the stores themselves only make 2-3 bucks on a new game, that can stack up rather quickly. That was the original idea behind reserves, the companies just got greedy and turned it on its ass.
 
TrailerCues said:
If you aks me when it comes to the popular stuff the workers probably get whatever copies they have that they want & by the time release date comes they are out of copies first shipment

Thats true in the big box stores (Wal-Mart, Target, etc.), but in retail stores, if you don't reserve it you have to wait for two weeks after release.
 
I live in Canada and the store I got it from's shipment came in at 3:30, oh oh whoa oh oh. :wow:
 
Master Chief said:
I live in Canada and the store I got it from's shipment came in at 3:30, oh oh whoa oh oh. :wow:

Is it as awesome as the demo makes it out ot be?
 
Now, I may be completely wrong about all this, but I'll try to explain what I think might make the difference to why DVDs and CDs don't face this same problem with releases...

I think the BIG difference is the type of media that's on the discs themselves. Most of the time with movies and games, they are taking things that have already been filmed, edited, and released to the public, and just putting them on a disc. The movie has already been finished for a few months. People have already seen the final product in theaters. If they really wanted to, most DVDs could probalby be released the same day as the movie was released to theaters, but in order to get the most out of the movie's theatrical run, they hold off on releasing the DVD for it until it's run is complete. So it's not hard to understand how a DVD can be burnt, packaged, and shipped to retailers well in time for it's release date. They just take what's already done, (for the most part) and slap it on a disc.


But video games are a little different. Nobody sees the final product until it's released on disc. Most games are not finished until the last minute. Sure a game may be good enough to ship to get to stores 2 weeks early, but instead of rushing that disc out and having it sit there in the retailer's warehouses until its release date, why not use those 2 weeks for more debugging and testing of the game?


Now I know that still doesn't excuse something being advertised as being available one day, when it's really not available until the next day or two, but it does, IMO, excuse why we don't see the games getting to stores early, like we do for CDs and DVDs.
 
TheEvolutionist said:
Is it as awesome as the demo makes it out ot be?

I'm a bit biased since I set out to love this game the moment that brief clip of Frank shooting on top of the truck in the underground was shown, and that was last year or something, but yeah. It f**kin' rocks. The demo is just a little tiny crumb of a supernaturally gigantic oreo cookie.
 
Master Chief said:
I'm a bit biased since I set out to love this game the moment that brief clip of Frank shooting on top of the truck in the underground was shown, and that was last year or something, but yeah. It f**kin' rocks. The demo is just a little tiny crumb of a supernaturally gigantic oreo cookie.

Well, I was in the same boat, so I doubt i'll be disappointed.
 
imdaly said:
But video games are a little different. Nobody sees the final product until it's released on disc. Most games are not finished until the last minute. Sure a game may be good enough to ship to get to stores 2 weeks early, but instead of rushing that disc out and having it sit there in the retailer's warehouses until its release date, why not use those 2 weeks for more debugging and testing of the game?
Not true. Games are finished about a month (this is the max) before release. In PC gaming this is called going gold. In reference to the fact that on this date the developer has shipped the gold master disk to the publisher and they start making copies ASAP. Many devs. make an announcement about it. Bethesda made a Gold announcement about Oblivion about 3 weeks before the release date.
 
lars573 said:
Not true. Games are finished about a month (this is the max) before release. In PC gaming this is called going gold. In reference to the fact that on this date the developer has shipped the gold master disk to the publisher and they start making copies ASAP. Many devs. make an announcement about it. Bethesda made a Gold announcement about Oblivion about 3 weeks before the release date.

Yes, that's actually part of my point.

Say a game has to be out for a August 8 street date. Say it takes 3 weeks from "Going Gold" to the discs being in the stores.

If the company wants the game to arrive in the stores a week early, they have to "go Gold" by the beginning of July.

But if they just try to get that game to stores right at its street date, that gives them an extra week, so that they can work all through that first week of July doing last-minute debugging, before finally "going Gold" in July Week 2.
 
Yeah, me needing to wait until Tomorrow to play Dead Rising even though it's ****ing out TODAY really pisses me off, even moreso than it usually would because I called a guy at EB who said they had it, went out there, wasted my time, only to find nope, they don't have it. This and the constant, goes-without-saying delays for pretty much every game being made...the release habits of the games industry really needs to chance.
 
pre order people sometimes get it on release day and the next day its available for normal people
 
That always happens. Kingdom Hearts II wasn't out until a few days after the expected date.
 
With games, always expect the game to be in stores to buy the day after the release date. I.e, if the game says 8/8/06, expect to pick it up on 8/9/06. On rare ocassions, the game will even be out 2 days later. It sucks especially when you want a game really bad and it doesnt come when you expect it to. I preordered tekken for the psp, and the date was correct but when I went to the store around 1 p.m the game wasnt even there yet. What got me more upset was there was an ebgames across the street and they had already sold out there shipment. It boggles me how there is a gamestop and ebgames right across from each other and one recieves the game and the other doesnt.
 
iceberg325 said:
With games, always expect the game to be in stores to buy the day after the release date. I.e, if the game says 8/8/06, expect to pick it up on 8/9/06. On rare ocassions, the game will even be out 2 days later. It sucks especially when you want a game really bad and it doesnt come when you expect it to. I preordered tekken for the psp, and the date was correct but when I went to the store around 1 p.m the game wasnt even there yet. What got me more upset was there was an ebgames across the street and they had already sold out there shipment. It boggles me how there is a gamestop and ebgames right across from each other and one recieves the game and the other doesnt.

Shipping errors abound in the gaming industry, it really doesn't have anything to do with the stores, it's just how/when the shipments get sent out.
 
TheEvolutionist said:
Shipping errors abound in the gaming industry, it really doesn't have anything to do with the stores, it's just how/when the shipments get sent out.

Yeah I know. Its just the ebgames across the street got it and they wait for ups as well. I just didnt see how they wouldnt get there shipment at gamestop until a couple of hours later.
 
This really pissed me off last year when X-Men Legends 2, Ultimate Spider-Man and Batallion Wars all came out within a week of each other, but on different days, some stores had the games, some didn't, some wouldn't have it for another week. I wish the gaming industry was like DVD and CDs, everything released on Tuesday.
 
iceberg325 said:
With games, always expect the game to be in stores to buy the day after the release date. I.e, if the game says 8/8/06, expect to pick it up on 8/9/06. On rare ocassions, the game will even be out 2 days later.

Last year, Hulk: UD came out a day before the expected date. That was a once in a life time event.
 

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