danoyse said:
no, no buts. I'm right at this point. Admit it. You're running out of arguments to refute this and it's not working.
Luke and Mara exist only in the extended universe.
And Romeo and Juliet exist only in the Shakespearean universe. Therefore if you won't let my example apply, then your example doesn't apply either.
Besides, extended universe is consdered canonical part of Star Wars movieverse., btw. Scott and Jean, however exist in
all the known universes and incantations of the X-Men. This is hardly an alternative, "what-if" backstory but a major part of every story.
He had quite the crush for Princess Leia in ANH--in fact, there was a kiss between the two edited from Empire Strikes Back. The sister plotline was developed late in the process.
So? Logan's obsessive love with Jean and him going in for the kiss and makeout session wasn't put in from the start, either. But Scott and Jean's relationship was was there from the start and was made clear from the start. Logan sees them holding hands, and Jean makes it clear they sleep in the same room. Then there's the part about "stay away from my girl". He should have taken the hint that she's not available. Putting his nose into forbidden territory is not a sign of devotion but of an angsy obsessive desire and disrespectful of an already established couple.
Again, this is taking things under the perception that *everyone* knows the backstory of Scott and Jean when they saw the movies for the first time. They don't.
They also don't know Logan's backstory either. Far as they can tell he has no backstory, except for running around in the back woods of Alberta for 15 years taking on odd jobs and making do with whatever he can. No hint at complexities, past relationships, romance, or the ability to love there either. I see none of the complexities that you and others like you keep swearing by.
As far as Scott and Jean however, the audience doesn't need to know the full story. The fact that they are together and love each other and are engaged is enough. Logan's stuck fighting an uphill battle which he clearly
loses by the end of X2. To simply try again simply because Scott's conveniently knocked out of the way is inappropriate and in bad taste, especially in light of the situation that they are in. And Jean never is seen to return his feelings. the last thing he yells to her before snikting her is "I love you". Does she ever return the feelings or say it back to him or hint at any way that she feels the same (hot makeout session while in Dark Phoenix persona doesn't count since it's obviously not Jean)? No.
I didn't realize they were engaged until I watched the behind-the-scenes features on the DVD.
Read the character bios on the movie websites. If that's not enough, check out some of the pictures of Jean. In some scenes, she's wearing what looks to me like a ring on that special finger.
From the perspective of someone not familiar with the comics, they were a couple in love, sure...but this undying love thing never quite played out the same way on screen.
The fact that Scott was willing to ride 2500 miles across country on a motorcycle to follow his faith and the way Jean was calling out to him for months begging for him to save her, not to mention the deveastation he felt at losing her and the sorrow and despair she felt at the moments of her death, to me is proof enough that it was a very deep love. As for not playing out as well as it could have on screen, that much is Obvious, since the writers got rid of Cyclops before he could even savor a kiss during a moment of his greatest joy and vindication with Jean in X3.
What?! As I said before, it is as if Logan took Scotts emotions for Jean and claimed them ashis own....that ain't right..
