Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread

[Frankeh]

I really hope it does well too.

I feel the one thing it has against it (aside from box office competition) is that the X-Men are not yet a costumed team. i think that's what people are LONGING to see on screen. It's taking an eternity to get to the point, that's how it feels.

People want to see the classic X-Men on screen.

What you just said is the reason why I think some fans will call this movie cinematic blue balls.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I honestly wouldn't mind if the main series took a hiatus for a couple of years after Apocalypse (a la X3 & First Class) and just focus on their other properties for the time being. (Deadpool 2, X-Force, The New Mutants, Wolverine, Gambit, etc.)

 

[X-Maniac]

I think that is a real possibility. With Deadpool firmly on the cinematic A list, FOX may look to focus on more grounded offerings that revolve around Reynold's character and others he (re)introduces like Negasonic, Colossus, Cable and the rumored Domino. I'd add New Mutants to the list of films that may be on the fast track. If Apocalypse shows any weakness at the BO I wouldn't be surprised if the X-Men franchise gets put on a short term hiatus.

One thing to consider is that they can easily scale down the stories after Apocalypse.

If they do decide to go bigger, they could take it into space (which would be great - imagine the Shi'ar landing as the end teaser of Apocalypse - and would suit Singer, as he was planning a Battlestar Galactica movie).

Or they go smaller and keep it terrestrial with threats like Arcade, Sinister, Mojo, Moses Magnum, Omega Red and Soviet Super Soldiers (the mutant ones like Darkstar), Friends of Humanity, Proteus, Purifiers, Reavers, Marauders, Morlocks, Cassandra Nova.

They could also easily mash together elements of the Savage Land (assuming that IP is with Marvel because of Ka-Zar), Genosha and Mojoworld to create some sort of crazy island with mutates, Sauron, dinosaurs (or dinosaur-like genetic experiments) and a ruler such as Sinister.

There is plenty of scope. It just needs imagination, planning and lots of inspiration from the classic comics!

 

[GuestStar2004]

We don't know for sure if they will do another trilogy with the young cast. The immediate focus after this is Deadpool 2, Gambit and probably X-Force or whatever that untitled movie is.

From everything we have heard it very much sounds like the idea is for more movies with this cast after apocalypse, well unless the film does terrible.

I still think the X-men team movies will likely still remain the highest priority for fox and will probably get first dips of much bigger villain because it's the flagship series.

Also they won't give these X-Men team films a break after apocalypse because if the idea is to do something Phoenix related then you do not want to lose the momentum of X-Men: apocalypse and let people just slowly forget the hype

 

[magneto23]

I honestly wouldn't mind if the main series took a hiatus for a couple of years after Apocalypse (a la X3 & First Class) and just focus on their other properties for the time being. (Deadpool 2, X-Force, The New Mutants, Wolverine, Gambit, etc.)

A couple years? Or 5 years? Because that was the time between FC and X3. Little too long IMO if this truly is the "birth" of the X-Men team. Don't want to see that and then have to wait that long for the next installment.

 

[SuperT]

Right. I mean, it's not like they can't do the main X-Men team films and Deadpool, X-Force, Wolverine, Gambit & New Mutants all at the same time...

 

[GuestStar2004]

We probably won't see X-force till 2020 and new mutants we will probably get made at some point but it's all very quiet on that front

 

[Gerontophobe]

Right. I mean, it's not like they can't do the main X-Men team films and Deadpool, X-Force, Wolverine, Gambit & New Mutants all at the same time...

Although Fox executives have publicly expressed concern about saturating the marketplace, especially when it comes to multiple teams. I'm sure tons of things are currently planned but those plans could shift pretty quickly depending on how Apocalypse does. If it is a success (same ballpark as DoFP) then I would expect Fox to continue with the recast core (Sheridan, Turner, Shipp) as well as Hoult (who's signed on) and hopefully McAvoy (less sure). Wolverine will wrap up and obviously Deadpool will continue. If it disappoints relative to expectations (which DoFP and Deadpool significantly raised), then I would expect New Mutants to get preferential status.

 

[Gerontophobe]

I’m not sure if I buy that $1B is likely for Apocalypse. I mean, DoFP was a huge outlier compared to previous movies. Certainly I don’t expect a return to First Class levels but I wouldn’t be surprised by a little regression with the absence of the original cast. I also don’t Deadpool’s success has much of any bearing on Apocalypse. I mean, it was a totally different thing (R-rated action comedy without much X-Men branding). I’m interested in why some of you think Apocalypse will join the billion dollar club.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

One thing to consider is that they can easily scale down the stories after Apocalypse.

If they do decide to go bigger, they could take it into space (which would be great - imagine the Shi'ar landing as the end teaser of Apocalypse - and would suit Singer, as he was planning a Battlestar Galactica movie).

Or they go smaller and keep it terrestrial with threats like Arcade, Sinister, Mojo, Moses Magnum, Omega Red and Soviet Super Soldiers (the mutant ones like Darkstar), Friends of Humanity, Proteus, Purifiers, Reavers, Marauders, Morlocks, Cassandra Nova.

They could also easily mash together elements of the Savage Land (assuming that IP is with Marvel because of Ka-Zar), Genosha and Mojoworld to create some sort of crazy island with mutates, Sauron, dinosaurs (or dinosaur-like genetic experiments) and a ruler such as Sinister.

There is plenty of scope. It just needs imagination, planning and lots of inspiration from the classic comics!

Or they can go with a Storm movie.

 

[CaptainCanada]

If it disappoints relative to expectations (which DoFP and Deadpool significantly raised), then I would expect New Mutants to get preferential status.

Wouldn't Apocalypse underwhelming be more likely to kill New Mutants, given that the latter has significantly less notable characters? If one movie focused on young X-Men has been deemed unsuccessful, is there much logic in trying another?

 

[Gerontophobe]

Wouldn't Apocalypse underwhelming be more likely to kill New Mutants, given that the latter has significantly less notable characters? If one movie focused on young X-Men has been deemed unsuccessful, is there much logic in trying another?

Well, in the case of Apocaplypse disappointing Fox probably wouldn't continue with their new Jean, Scott, and Storm. They also can't go back to the aged original cast. They'll continue with Deadpool movies and other individual characters, but I think executives would try to launch another team series within a few years. It seems unlikely that they would recast the well-known core characters yet again so soon. Perhaps they would attempt to go in a new direction while keeping the newest cast, maybe with a recast Wolverine? Otherwise, Marvel has shown that relatively unknown can be made to work so the risk of an X-Force or New Mutants movie isn't that crazy. All in all, it would be a confusing mess with no obvious way forward (outside of more Deadpool).

 

[Zant]

I’m not sure if I buy that $1B is likely for Apocalypse. I mean, DoFP was a huge outlier compared to previous movies. Certainly I don’t expect a return to First Class levels but I wouldn’t be surprised by a little regression with the absence of the original cast. I also don’t Deadpool’s success has much of any bearing on Apocalypse. I mean, it was a totally different thing (R-rated action comedy without much X-Men branding). I’m interested in why some of you think Apocalypse will join the billion dollar club.

There is more than enough xmen branding in Deadpool. A lot more more than I was expecting actually.

 

[Gerontophobe]

There is more than enough xmen branding in Deadpool. A lot more more than I was expecting actually.

But it wasn't really marketed as an X-Men movie so I don't think it doing so amazingly well is a reflection on the X-Men brand as a whole.

 

[x-er]

But it featured X-Men and the X-Mansion (as opposed to the Marvel brand). And that's fairly recognizable to general audiences worldwide now, i think.

 

[Wildcard]

Agreed. You're kidding yourself if you think general audiences are so dumb that they couldn't realize that Deadpool is clearly a part of the X-Men universe. I mean, he made an abundance of jokes referencing that fact...they (the audiences) get it. And it'll definitely serve as a help to XMA when its all said and done, especially if its a great film that stands on its own.

 

[Wildcard]

Chill guys. That's why I have placed a smiley at the end of my statement.



Prove me that I'm wrong though. Only 2 Batman movies reached 1 billion dollars. If Nolan has directed it, then it could reach a billion dollars.

You're either terribly misguided or truly indeed trolling. Nolan is not the end all be all for DCEU films grossing over $1 billion & only a fool would believe BvS won't hit a billion whereas XMA is a lock for it, which its not.

The DCEU literally has one movie to it, which is MoS, which did solid numbers. So you have absolutely no grounds to say the films can't gross $1 billion without Nolan when we haven't even gotten a chance for the universe to actually get set up properly.

Furthermore, the statement itself is just purely inane. Its the same as trying to say Joss Whedon is the only person capable of directing an Avengers movie when that is completely false. Nolan is NOT needed for these films to be successful.

BvS is clearly a billion dollar movie, and it won't be solely because of Batman. When the numbers come back at the end of the year & BvS has grossed anywhere from $300-$600 million more than XMA, I only wish I could be a fly on the wall to witness your reaction & how you'll try to justify said numbers with some illogical statement.

I'm done discussing this or anything else with you. It's clear you're a hater of DC Comics. In fact, I'm fully expecting you to once again entirely miss all of the points of this post.

Have fun.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

You're either terribly misguided or truly indeed trolling. Nolan is not the end all be all for DCEU films grossing over $1 billion & only a fool would believe BvS won't hit a billion whereas XMA is a lock for it, which its not.

The DCEU literally has one movie to it, which is MoS, which did solid numbers. So you have absolutely no grounds to say the films can't gross $1 billion without Nolan when we haven't even gotten a chance for the universe to actually get set up properly.

Furthermore, the statement itself is just purely inane. Its the same as trying to say Joss Whedon is the only person capable of directing an Avengers movie when that is completely false. Nolan is NOT needed for these films to be successful.

BvS is clearly a billion dollar movie, and it won't be solely because of Batman. When the numbers come back at the end of the year & BvS has grossed anywhere from $300-$600 million more than XMA, I only wish I could be a fly on the wall to witness your reaction & how you'll try to justify said numbers with some illogical statement.

I'm done discussing this or anything else with you. It's clear you're a hater of DC Comics. In fact, I'm fully expecting you to once again entirely miss all of the points of this post.

Have fun.

DC hasn't proved that they can hit $1 billion for a movie without Batman. Since BvS has Batman, it's possible however, it was only Nolan who was able to make a Batman movie very, very successful (it's a fact, don't deny it). So please don't say my statement is purely inane.

If Nolan didn't direct, no Batman movie may have reached a billion dollars.

 

[Gerontophobe]

Agreed. You're kidding yourself if you think general audiences are so dumb that they couldn't realize that Deadpool is clearly a part of the X-Men universe. I mean, he made an abundance of jokes referencing that fact...they (the audiences) get it. And it'll definitely serve as a help to XMA when its all said and done, especially if its a great film that stands on its own.

Once you see the movie, of course everyone saw that it was part of the X-Men. I'm saying that the money it made wasn't because it was an X-Men movie first but rather something unique. It could very well help open Apocalypse but I think suggesting Deadpool's success shows the X-Men brand is really strong may be a mistake.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Deadpools success just offers more confidence in X-Men movies with more good faith in the franchise

 

[BeholdMe]

You're either terribly misguided or truly indeed trolling. Nolan is not the end all be all for DCEU films grossing over $1 billion & only a fool would believe BvS won't hit a billion whereas XMA is a lock for it, which its not.

The DCEU literally has one movie to it, which is MoS, which did solid numbers. So you have absolutely no grounds to say the films can't gross $1 billion without Nolan when we haven't even gotten a chance for the universe to actually get set up properly.

Furthermore, the statement itself is just purely inane. Its the same as trying to say Joss Whedon is the only person capable of directing an Avengers movie when that is completely false. Nolan is NOT needed for these films to be successful.

BvS is clearly a billion dollar movie, and it won't be solely because of Batman. When the numbers come back at the end of the year & BvS has grossed anywhere from $300-$600 million more than XMA, I only wish I could be a fly on the wall to witness your reaction & how you'll try to justify said numbers with some illogical statement.

I'm done discussing this or anything else with you. It's clear you're a hater of DC Comics. In fact, I'm fully expecting you to once again entirely miss all of the points of this post.

Have fun.

Just as you think BVS and are adamant about it others feel the same about Apocalypse and who know how it will play out or how much each will do. I'm sure both movies though will do quite well so let's just be happy about that.

 

[X-Maniac]

What you just said is the reason why I think some fans will call this movie cinematic blue balls.

I had to look up that phrase, lol, but it's possible, yes.

I hope the film is satisfying. But I do think people's expectations of comic book adaptations are higher nowadays.

There are a lot more geeks around these days, comic book movies have brought them all out of closet. Comics and superheroes aren't so niche. Many mainstream fans know the material, they have points of comparison/reference in their minds when they see a movie.

Part of the challenge with prequels is that people can feel they are waiting for the pay-off.

But these X-Men films can't just be about the journey, at some point we have to see the actual X-Men. It didn't do any harm to Avengers to show the costumed team lined up on screen, we aren't still waiting for them to get together.

 

[Eddie]

DC hasn't proved that they can hit $1 billion for a movie without Batman. Since BvS has Batman, it's possible however, it was only Nolan who was able to make a Batman movie very, very successful (it's a fact, don't deny it). So please don't say my statement is purely inane.

If Nolan didn't direct, no Batman movie may have reached a billion dollars.

That is not a fact. Allow me to provide an ACTUAL fact, though. Tim Burton's Batman sold more tickets than The Dark Knight Rises (or Begins, obviously, which wasn't a tremendous earner). If you adjust for modern ticket prices Batman made over half a billion in today's money in America alone.

 

[2kt09]

That is not a fact. Allow me to provide an ACTUAL fact, though. Tim Burton's Batman sold more tickets than The Dark Knight Rises (or Begins, obviously, which wasn't a tremendous earner). If you adjust for modern ticket prices Batman made over half a billion in today's money in America alone.

Holy heck this inflation calculator. That 89' Batman movie is quite the juggernaut. Both X-Men sequels also made more than Batman Begins.

 

[Eddie]

Lots of old movies moved more tickets than modern blockbusters. If the box office records went by tickets instead of constantly increasing ticket prices the records wouldn't be broken every year or two.