Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion

[xrs13]

That would be paying more homage to X-Men evolution than it would Onslaught.

 

[JP]

Yeah, remember he mentioned cartoons. In 3 cartoons, only 2 featured Horsemen at some point, and only 1 had a variation of them that wasn't already seen in the comics... X-Men: Evolution. That puts Mystique, Magneto, Xavier, and Storm on the table.

Still think it's Mystique and Logan just going by the DoFP ending.


EDIT: I'm late. LOL.

 

[def28]

Yep. Evolution had Storm, Xavier, Magneto and Mystique.

Gotcha.

That line up is pretty far from the comics. Would definitely work with their current lineup though.

 

[Majik1387]

True. I also wonder, would they only stick with 616 Horseman or would they venture out in the other comic-verses as well?

I know the Manga-verse had Mr Sinsiter, Angel, Juggernaut, and Emma Frost as the Horseman.

 

[def28]

What I mean is they've got the audience back and a might not want to risk a introducing a new spin-off that could harm that

Deadpool has to exist on his own though man. Not as an X-Men supporting player. X-Force if anything.

 

[xrs13]

The only thing with Mystique is that I would bet anything that she would go willingly until realising that Apoc is worse than Magneto and then go for help. It would be like the 90's beyond good and evil I think, where she worked for Apoc but wasnt a horseman until the end where magneto and her had their own plans.

 

[SuperT]

I agree with JP - I think Mystique and Logan being Horsemen are a lock. It's just makes sense and would give them a way to give Wolvie his adamantium again.

The other two spots are definitely up for grabs but I still think it makes the most sense for them to be Xavier and Magneto.

 

[Sullstar]

It's a longshot but I wouldn't put it passed them having Nightcrawler as one of the horseman. He is a character who works really well being evil

 

[def28]

Nightcrawler is unlikely given what Kinberg said.He works excellent at being morally better then every other character imo.

I agree with JP - I think Mystique and Logan being Horsemen are a lock. It's just makes sense and would give them a way to give Wolvie his adamantium again.

The other two spots are definitely up for grabs but I still think it makes the most sense for them to be Xavier and Magneto.

I'm gonna side with you guys on that. It makes sense to have characters that are already set up. At least for two of them.

I will rage a bit if there's no Angel.

 

[xrs13]

I'm gonna side with you guys on that. It makes sense to have characters that are already set up. At least for two of them.

I will rage a bit if there's no Angel.

I would like Angel too but you really think there is a possibility?

 

[Majik1387]

I kind of hope Magneto isn't a Horseman simply because I think it would be more interesting for him to save the world against his sibling and best friend. It would be a real character piece on Fassbender's end. Plus it would pay tribute to the comics where Magneto took over the school bit while Xavier was out of commission.

 

[SuperT]

I kind of hope Magneto isn't a Horseman simply because I think it would be more interesting for him to save the world against his sibling and best friend. It would be a real character piece on Fassbender's end. Plus it would pay tribute to the comics where Magneto took over the school bit while Xavier was out of commission.

Hmm, that could certainly be a nice angle. Xavier gets kidnapped and turned by Apocalypse so Magneto has to step up to lead Storm, Jean, Cykes, Nightcrawler etc.

That would definitely be new, at least for the movie-verse.

 

[def28]

I would like Angel too but you really think there is a possibility?

I'm rarely for forcing characters in. But here I think it's required. Archangel is just a better character then Apocalypse in general. Best stuff from Apocalypse comes from him.

I say just add him to the 80s team. Who cares about X3 continuity at this point.

 

[xrs13]

That is kinda why I want Xavier to become a horseman. It would allow for some funny Magneto, Beast interactions. But also would allow the X-Men to become more combat ready with Magneto as a leader far quicker.

 

[JP]

And it would be a great way to shoehorn Xavier walking into the movie.

 

[xrs13]

I'm rarely for forcing characters in. But here I think it's required. Archangel is just a better character then Apocalypse in general. Best stuff from Apocalypse comes from him.

I say just add him to the 80s team. Who cares about X3 continuity at this point.

Do you not think that he needs introducing a bit more firstly though, I loved the Archangel story but moreso because it was a real fall from grace for angel and then it was touching to see his struggle. I wouldnt really care for an Angel who I know nothing about being turned into Archangel.

 

[xrs13]

And it would be a great way to shoehorn Xavier walking into the movie.

It may also be a reason for him to become bald... Or even his own struggle against the power of Apocalypse to make his hair fall out.

 

[def28]

Do you not think that he needs introducing a bit more firstly though, I loved the Archangel story but moreso because it was a real fall from grace for angel and then it was touching to see his struggle. I wouldnt really care for an Angel who I know nothing about being turned into Archangel.

At this point I think every X-Men needs more introducing. Unless the Horsemen are Prof X, Wolverine, Mystique and Magneto. If this is the only Apocalypse film then this is their only shot at him for awhile. Too many other storylines connect with Archangel down the line. So, I can't see it but anything but a huge chance.

I don't think Prof X should be a Horsemen because he needs to be in full teacher mode with the new students. But we'll see, just my two cents.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I can very well see Xavier being involved in taking apoclaypse down, after all this is still the next step to his story too that we been following since FC

I personally don't think they will turn xavier or magneto into horsemen because it restricts their development in many ways, I mean just how much will mcavoy and fassbender get to do as horsemen? And even then it would probably be very late in the film to squeeze as much development out of them as possible

It could happen but I can see them characters getting the moral choices of the film in taking him down tbh

 

[xrs13]

I know I am the only person who would like to see Storm be a horseman but I do think she would be really cool. So far we have only seen her be a mothering caring figure, She wouldn't even need to be brainwashed as it wouldn't be hard for Apoc to convince a person who is already revered as a goddess as being exactly that. That way Xavier would be able to get her to realise she is just a mutant and should work for the good side and that would reduce the horsemen to 3 around the end of the first act.

 

[Blackout]

The X-Men evolution horsemen line-up seems to fit better with the current pool of mutants in the movieverse but having all 3 of the main FC cast be horsemen seems unlikely.

 

[def28]

I know I am the only person who would like to see Storm be a horseman but I do think she would be really cool.

Storm would work great imo. They can actually show off her strength to the max for once. But like you said with Angel, your gonna have to sacrifice early character development for being a villain through most the film. It's gonna be that way with any new FC students.

My personal hope for Storm is that she gets paired with Gambit for most her screen time. Those two work really well together. And Storm needs relationship building among all other things. The only problem with her being a Horsemen is she will be used mostly for effects.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

If Xavier wasn't walking in DOFP it would've been awesome to see him as a horseman step out of the chair and walk and perhaps even fly like Magneto

 

[Smilodon]

At this point I think every X-Men needs more introducing. Unless the Horsemen are Prof X, Wolverine, Mystique and Magneto. If this is the only Apocalypse film then this is their only shot at him for awhile. Too many other storylines connect with Archangel down the line. So, I can't see it but anything but a huge chance.

I don't think Prof X should be a Horsemen because he needs to be in full teacher mode with the new students. But we'll see, just my two cents.

This. If they make Charles a Horseman that means we might have to rush through the development of Charles recruiting and bonding with Storm, Scott and Jean. Or condense it and say the recruiting of those three happened offscreen in that 10 year time jump to 1983, which seems kinda like a copout to me and one that I wouldn't want to see given how a bunch of the FC class was killed offscreen in the prior film.

But on the flip side, I would be down with Fassy leading the team to save Charles, but I think that kind of salvation storyline can be done with Charles and Logan, as even though Logan won't remember Charles, Charles will still remember all that Logan has done and his promise to use his power to find his students and form the X-Men. That in itself could be an equally emotional storyline.

Oh and offtopic from another Kinberg interview. I'm glad to hear how much Fassbender knows about Magneto. I love him in the role and hope Apoc can deliver on the Mags as we close the FC trilogy and set off onto a new trilogy with hopefully new villains.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yep if xavier becomes a horsemen it would have to be very late in the movie, they won't wanna lose character development for him