Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

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Just the fact that she looks exactly like Archlight from X3, tattoos and all, is my only gripe so far. But I'm sure she's a minor character so I could really care less to be honest.
 
One minor thing I dug in this trailer is that the women are wearing earrings, which is a thing Singer always seemed to avoid.
 
They could give Selene a coat but then she would be too much like Selene from Underworld franchise. :P
 
X-men: The Last Stand is a horrible and unforgivable movie for a few reasons

- It took Jean's agency and voice away
- The Phoenix was poorly explained and was a subplot
- Wolverine "saved" Jean by killing her
- The movie was a vehicle for Hugh Jackman's marketability - Jean's story was turned into his story
- Jean's resurrection was uneventful. We don't see her rise from the water and she just stands there
- Phoenix is a monster with no redeeming qualities
- Cyclops is killed off really early in the movie and barely mentioned again
- The "Phoenix effect" didn't even have any fire effects lol
- Jean stood around for the entire last half of the movie, including up until the very end of the final battle
- The final battle was loud and obnoxious, but had really low stakes in terms of the characters
- The movie told us about Jean and Xavier's mental blocks, but it doesn't show that dynamic
- Jean's friends don't care about her and are ok killing her
- Immature humour and uneven tone

Despite the superficial similarities the trailer has with X3, the trailer also shows us that these horrible elements will not be in the film. This might be more like the great movie we could have gotten instead of X3 than like a true version of the Dark Phoenix Saga (which will make it not a great movie for many). The trailer showed us that the movie doesn't get passed the franchise's problems (human Mystique and Beast, over reliance on Xavier and Magneto, lack of focus for the actual X-men like Storm and Nightcrawler), and those problems will be a deal breaker for some people.

I'm on board after this first trailer. The acting on display alone is worth caring about. There's a lot of the movie we haven't seen yet, like the entire space mission, Chastain's character/villain, the third act, character dynamics before Jean becomes Phoenix, etc. The opportunity to fix the franchise's biggest blunder in its final movie could be a great thing.
This basically sums up my feelings. Most of the comparisons with X3 seem to be superficial at best. But I guess we'll see.
 
I was reading the spoilers leaked on reddit a few months ago, and almost everything seems to be true judging by the trailer:

-I want to make sure that this is clear – I am talking about the cut of the movie I saw. Things could still get tweaked here and there. But I do believe some things won’t change. What can’t change is the movie being really underwhelming. Really lower your expectations because this one is not good. Mystique dies. They repeat moments from X3 I kid you not.

-They repeat the moment between jean and Cyclops “take off the glasses and kiss me I can control your eyes”

Don't have print of it, but the russian trailer shows this scene.

-We see Charles pick up jean as a child again

-jean almost kills Charles again by levitating him and dissolving him

-Magneto does become an opposing force again and faces off with Charles’ team. It’s funny because before their fight begins and Charles is trying to talk him out of it magneto goes like “every time we do this it’s the same thing over again”- something along those lines.


Beast-Magneto-and-Professor-X-in-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix.jpg


And Eric does say "You're always sorry, Charles. And there's always a speech... and nobody cares,"


-x-men are like Avengers status at the beginning of the film (which feels really unearned) -astronauts at risk of dying in space(literally the atmosphere not space) due to some cosmic waves

-x-men save them but jean gets hit by waves

-they return and she starts freaking out about her powers

-the movie begins with young jean getting in a car crash with her two parents. At this point after the rescue we find out that her powers were responsible and she feels guilty for killing her mother. We find out that her dad is still alive though so she escapes the mansion all emotional to go find him.

-when jean got hit by the cosmic rays she sent the spaceship flying into space and somehow it ****ing lands on an alien planet. The aliens look st the wreckage and go “**** it this means war. Let’s go get the phoenix force” that’s literally their whole motivation.

-jean finds her dad and she gets pissed that Charles lied to her about her parents being dead. But Charles lied because her dad didn’t want her anymore. When she finally realizes all of this she almost kills her dad but the x men come to save her. She is really edgy at this point.

-she kills mystique by accident

-beast gets all mad because he loved her.

-beast goes to find magneto for help to defeat jean

-charles takes the rest of the team to get to jean before the aliens and beast/magneto can

-movie is so boring I’m sorry of this isn’t the best description but the movie ends with a cgi battle and its not very exciting because the aliens look boring and have generic levitation powers (they do shape shift into humans but they LOOK NOTHING LIKE SKRULLS AND THE WORD SKRULL IS NEVER SAID)

-there is an alien invasion and jean flies into space and gives up all her powers to destroy the fleet. The end

About individual costumes:
-Lmao those costumes are completely gone. The ones from the set photos. Simple black with the yellow forming an X on the upper half. These costumes only get worn twice out of the entire movie as well. Third act is them in civilian clothing

About Chastain's character name:
I really couldn’t tell you because they don’t ever say it. She’s a generic alien. The cut I saw didn’t establish the name of the species or characters. Yes they are all grey. But it could have been due to the lack of cgi? The alien effects were not even close to being finished

About the ending:
Jean goes into space and finally gives in to phoenix force and it was so cheesy “I’m not jean I’m Phoenix ” she’s talking to Scott through her mind powers as she’s doing it. She gives in and explodes and she wipes out all the fleet. The movie ends with the possibility of her still being out there

The cut I saw was really long and not finished obvi. It’s going to be shorter I feel because it was like way over 2 hours. Dazzler is in the movie making lights during a party scene (they are celebrating the team saving the day in the beginning). Genosha is like government sanciotned land to mutants. That’s what the dialogue makes it out to be. Magneto leads the group of mutants who live peacefully there. It’s really dramatic( which is fine) but a lot of the drama falls flat because of the script tbh. She only becomes the phoenix at the end and I kid you not she wears the same reddish coat for most of the movie. When she flies into space she just goes on fire with the same civilian coat. Like fox is so scared about costumes Idk why. Toad is not in it, psyloke is not in it.

PS.: Thanks for editing my post. Spoiler tag wasn't working for me.
 
1) Jean Grey: The Early Years
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While X-Men: Apocalypse introduced a grown-up Jean to the First Class timeline, it turns out that Charles Xavier has a longer-standing relationship with her. “There are not a lot of flashbacks in the movie, but that foundational relationship between Young Jean and a younger Charles is one of the core themes of the film,” Kinberg explains. “The question of Jean’s relationship to her own powers becomes a big conflict for her throughout the film once she’s transformed by something that happens up in space, that has nothing to do with her childhood. It opens with a mission that takes them up into space that has consequences for Jean that ripple throughout the movie.”

2) The Professor’s Problem
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In previous tellings of the Dark Phoenix story, Professor X has limited Jean’s capabilities after seeing the full potential of her power – and the Dark Phoenix trailer teases at a similar strand here. “Charles has been hiding secrets about Jean’s past from her that get revealed over the span of the movie, and only make her more unstable,” say Kinberg. “It’s the most inopportune time for this character to become unstable emotionally, because she’s becoming unstable in a much different way after this cosmic thing that happened to her in space. In this way, Dark Phoenix is the most intimate, emotional and personal movie we’ve made, and yet also has the biggest breadth in terms of spanning beyond our planet, even beyond our galaxy. There’s a sense that the things that are happening emotionally for Jean and what’s happening cosmically inside her is making her incredibly unstable, dangerous, destructive.”

3) Present Day
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Cut back to the main timeline, and a reasonable amount of time has elapsed since we last saw Prof X and co. “It’s 1992, nine years after Apocalypse,” confirms Kinberg. “The X-Men have become the X-Men that many of us know from the comics – they are heroes. They’re still viewed as different by society, but they’ve been more embraced than ever before. And when the movie starts in 1992, they are a known superhero team.”

4) Suburban Outfitters
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In a move sure to please many long-term fans, the X-uniform in Dark Phoenix finally brings in a classic yellow-and-blue design similar to the comic and cartoon incarnations. “I’ve been waiting to do that from the first time I ever got a call from Avi Arad,” Kinberg enthuses. “Avi and Kevin Feige were the chief two people that called me about an X-Men movie 15 years ago. We talked about the costumes, and what Bryan Singer had done I understood and liked, but they were very different to what I had grown up seeing in the comics. So I was excited finally as the director to have more of a say and clothe them in their classic costumes.”

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The new look pinches elements from various designs seen on page and screen over the years. “I had a board full of my favourite images from the comics, and then I worked with our costume designer, who also worked on Logan, to create something that was incredibly loyal to the comics and then also had a little bit of its own feel. There’s little nuances from the cartoons, the comics, from whatever it is that if you were a fan you grew up reading or watching.”

5) Sense Of Mystique
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While Mystique was primarily an antagonist in the original X-Mentrilogy, working alongside Magneto, she’s skewed more heroic as Raven since her introduction in First Class. At the end of Apocalypseshe chose to stay with Charles, and help establish the X-Men – and she’s still part of the group nine years on. “Raven is a part of the X-Men, but she’s critical of some of Charles’ methodologies, in terms of him feeling as though they can just dress up in those costumes and be considered the same as the rest of humanity,” Kinberg explains. “So there is a schism forming between her and Charles. That struggle has been present in every movie, and we do it in a hopefully slightly more subtle way in this film. She toggles back and forth between Raven and Mystique, and there is meaning to that as there has always been in the previous three X-Men movies.”

6) Star-Crossed Lovers
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Jean and Scott Summers, aka Cyclops, both entered the prequel saga in Apocalypse, with sparks of chemistry between the two. In the comics and original film trilogy, the pair are a fully-fledged item – and in the intervening nine years they find themselves in a similar place emotionally here. “The love story between Scott and Jean is such an integral part of the Dark Phoenix saga in any iteration, whether it’s the comic book or the cartoons,” reasons Kinberg. “Obviously we don’t have Wolverine, so that’s one less part of that love story. It is very central [to the movie], and they are a couple. As Jean starts to become more unstable, there are people in the X-Men who don’t think she can be helped and saved, many of whom think the world and others need helping and saving from her. And so Scott is probably the most prominent person who’s holding on to the hope that Jean can be saved.”

7) The Village Green Preservation Society
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While Charles remained at his mansion to build the X-Men team at the end of Apocalypse, Erik Lensherr, aka Magneto, went his separate way. In the Dark Phoenix trailer, he’s in a leafy commune when Jean approaches him for guidance. “What you’re seeing is the beginnings of Genosha,” reveals Kinberg. “That’s where Erik is when we meet him. It’s like Magneto’s Israel – a land built for mutants, a homeland where they can be safe and self-sufficient.

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"Jean finds him there because what’s happening to her is making her do destructive things, and she doesn’t know why. The only person she’s known who has done destructive and lethal things in the past but came back from it is Magneto. She feels he alone can give her answers because he’s lived both sides. He’s lost control and killed and hurt people, some of whom he even loved, and yet he’s also found a measure of peace and that’s what she’s searching for.”

8) Intergalactic Influence
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The main new cast addition to the series is Jessica Chastain, who’s gone all platinum-blonde to play… well, we don’t know. But Kinberg elaborated a little on the origins of her character. “I can tell you this much. Jessica’s character is not of this Earth. She’s an extra-terrestrial character, an alien character,” he teases. “I won’t say much more in detail on the specifics of that. While everyone else is trying to control this power inside of Jean, she’s much more interested in essentially encouraging her to go further with it and try to be the peaceful side of herself. She is the devil on Jean’s shoulder, so to speak.”

9) Cosmic Jam
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Cut to the end of the trailer, and we get a glimpse of the outer space incident that kicks off the whole Phoenix takeover. “Jean is in space, and what she’s taking in is a cosmic force that she thinks is one thing, and over the course of the movie realises is something far different, that our human science can’t explain,” says Kinberg. “But she needs to find a way to control it or she’ll destroy more than just her friends – and even our planet.”

10) Cracked Actor
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Before the title card, we see Jean in Phoenix mode, face streaked with white lines – and she’s only just getting started. “That’s not maximum [Phoenix]. That’s a two or a three on the Dark Phoenix spectrum,” warns Kinberg. “It is a manifestation of her transformation from the Jean we know into Phoenix. Over the span of the movie we see different symptoms or iterations of that. The lines on her face let you know that Jean is losing control, and that force inside her is trying to escape, push through, take over. Those cracks are almost as if something inside her that’s more powerful than she is is trying to push out of her body.”

11) Earthy Tones
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For years, the X-Men logo and title card has been emblasoned in bold metallic fonts – but not here. X-Men: Dark Phoenix (or simply Dark Phoenix, as it’s being called in the US) has a darker, more mellow typeface that Kinberg explains is emblematic of a new tone for the franchise. “The way I wanted to make the movie was very different than the aesthetic of previous X-Men movies, which I’ve been very involved in and proud of,” he says. “But I wanted it to feel more naturalistic, I wanted it to feel edgier, more handmade, more real. I was very inspired by what James Mangold did with Logan, and I felt like if I could bring a measure of that aesthetic in the film that all of the intergalactic and larger-scale things that happen in the movie would feel more shocking, more realistic, more emotional. They’d be grounded in some reality. And so, all of the movie – from the costumes, to the title card, to the set design, to the way the X-jet looks – all of that stuff is just more analogue in a way. More like, let’s say, the original Star Wars movies. Not that analogue, but the movies I grew up loving had this very gritty, edgy, cool, human feeling to them.”
 
I was reading the spoilers leaked on reddit a few months ago, and almost everything seems to be true judging by the trailer:

-I want to make sure that this is clear – I am talking about the cut of the movie I saw. Things could still get tweaked here and there. But I do believe some things won’t change. What can’t change is the movie being really underwhelming. Really lower your expectations because this one is not good. Mystique dies. They repeat moments from X3 I kid you not.

-They repeat the moment between jean and Cyclops “take off the glasses and kiss me I can control your eyes”

Don't have print of it, but the russian trailer shows this scene.

-We see Charles pick up jean as a child again

-jean almost kills Charles again by levitating him and dissolving him

-Magneto does become an opposing force again and faces off with Charles’ team. It’s funny because before their fight begins and Charles is trying to talk him out of it magneto goes like “every time we do this it’s the same thing over again”- something along those lines.


Beast-Magneto-and-Professor-X-in-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix.jpg


And Eric does say "You're always sorry, Charles. And there's always a speech... and nobody cares,"


-x-men are like Avengers status at the beginning of the film (which feels really unearned) -astronauts at risk of dying in space(literally the atmosphere not space) due to some cosmic waves

-x-men save them but jean gets hit by waves

-they return and she starts freaking out about her powers

-the movie begins with young jean getting in a car crash with her two parents. At this point after the rescue we find out that her powers were responsible and she feels guilty for killing her mother. We find out that her dad is still alive though so she escapes the mansion all emotional to go find him.

-when jean got hit by the cosmic rays she sent the spaceship flying into space and somehow it ****ing lands on an alien planet. The aliens look st the wreckage and go “**** it this means war. Let’s go get the phoenix force” that’s literally their whole motivation.

-jean finds her dad and she gets pissed that Charles lied to her about her parents being dead. But Charles lied because her dad didn’t want her anymore. When she finally realizes all of this she almost kills her dad but the x men come to save her. She is really edgy at this point.

-she kills mystique by accident

-beast gets all mad because he loved her.

-beast goes to find magneto for help to defeat jean

-charles takes the rest of the team to get to jean before the aliens and beast/magneto can

-movie is so boring I’m sorry of this isn’t the best description but the movie ends with a cgi battle and its not very exciting because the aliens look boring and have generic levitation powers (they do shape shift into humans but they LOOK NOTHING LIKE SKRULLS AND THE WORD SKRULL IS NEVER SAID)

-there is an alien invasion and jean flies into space and gives up all her powers to destroy the fleet. The end

About individual costumes:
-Lmao those costumes are completely gone. The ones from the set photos. Simple black with the yellow forming an X on the upper half. These costumes only get worn twice out of the entire movie as well. Third act is them in civilian clothing

About Chastain's character name:
I really couldn’t tell you because they don’t ever say it. She’s a generic alien. The cut I saw didn’t establish the name of the species or characters. Yes they are all grey. But it could have been due to the lack of cgi? The alien effects were not even close to being finished

About the ending:
Jean goes into space and finally gives in to phoenix force and it was so cheesy “I’m not jean I’m Phoenix ” she’s talking to Scott through her mind powers as she’s doing it. She gives in and explodes and she wipes out all the fleet. The movie ends with the possibility of her still being out there

The cut I saw was really long and not finished obvi. It’s going to be shorter I feel because it was like way over 2 hours. Dazzler is in the movie making lights during a party scene (they are celebrating the team saving the day in the beginning). Genosha is like government sanciotned land to mutants. That’s what the dialogue makes it out to be. Magneto leads the group of mutants who live peacefully there. It’s really dramatic( which is fine) but a lot of the drama falls flat because of the script tbh. She only becomes the phoenix at the end and I kid you not she wears the same reddish coat for most of the movie. When she flies into space she just goes on fire with the same civilian coat. Like fox is so scared about costumes Idk why. Toad is not in it, psyloke is not in it.

PS.: Thanks for editing my post. Spoiler tag wasn't working for me.

So much of that reddit spoiler sounds awful but I also feel it's accurate going by what we've now seen in the trailer.
 
So much of that reddit spoiler sounds awful but I also feel it's accurate going by what we've now seen in the trailer.

He did say it's awful and the drama falls flat. That's his personal opinion about the movie being bad. But what he described seems true. And I do not like what he described. Not a bit. :p
 
I was reading the spoilers leaked on reddit a few months ago, and almost everything seems to be true judging by the trailer:

-I want to make sure that this is clear – I am talking about the cut of the movie I saw. Things could still get tweaked here and there. But I do believe some things won’t change. What can’t change is the movie being really underwhelming. Really lower your expectations because this one is not good. Mystique dies. They repeat moments from X3 I kid you not.

-They repeat the moment between jean and Cyclops “take off the glasses and kiss me I can control your eyes”

Don't have print of it, but the russian trailer shows this scene.

-We see Charles pick up jean as a child again

-jean almost kills Charles again by levitating him and dissolving him

-Magneto does become an opposing force again and faces off with Charles’ team. It’s funny because before their fight begins and Charles is trying to talk him out of it magneto goes like “every time we do this it’s the same thing over again”- something along those lines.


Beast-Magneto-and-Professor-X-in-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix.jpg


And Eric does say "You're always sorry, Charles. And there's always a speech... and nobody cares,"


-x-men are like Avengers status at the beginning of the film (which feels really unearned) -astronauts at risk of dying in space(literally the atmosphere not space) due to some cosmic waves

-x-men save them but jean gets hit by waves

-they return and she starts freaking out about her powers

-the movie begins with young jean getting in a car crash with her two parents. At this point after the rescue we find out that her powers were responsible and she feels guilty for killing her mother. We find out that her dad is still alive though so she escapes the mansion all emotional to go find him.

-when jean got hit by the cosmic rays she sent the spaceship flying into space and somehow it ****ing lands on an alien planet. The aliens look st the wreckage and go “**** it this means war. Let’s go get the phoenix force” that’s literally their whole motivation.

-jean finds her dad and she gets pissed that Charles lied to her about her parents being dead. But Charles lied because her dad didn’t want her anymore. When she finally realizes all of this she almost kills her dad but the x men come to save her. She is really edgy at this point.

-she kills mystique by accident

-beast gets all mad because he loved her.

-beast goes to find magneto for help to defeat jean

-charles takes the rest of the team to get to jean before the aliens and beast/magneto can

-movie is so boring I’m sorry of this isn’t the best description but the movie ends with a cgi battle and its not very exciting because the aliens look boring and have generic levitation powers (they do shape shift into humans but they LOOK NOTHING LIKE SKRULLS AND THE WORD SKRULL IS NEVER SAID)

-there is an alien invasion and jean flies into space and gives up all her powers to destroy the fleet. The end

About individual costumes:
-Lmao those costumes are completely gone. The ones from the set photos. Simple black with the yellow forming an X on the upper half. These costumes only get worn twice out of the entire movie as well. Third act is them in civilian clothing

About Chastain's character name:
I really couldn’t tell you because they don’t ever say it. She’s a generic alien. The cut I saw didn’t establish the name of the species or characters. Yes they are all grey. But it could have been due to the lack of cgi? The alien effects were not even close to being finished

About the ending:
Jean goes into space and finally gives in to phoenix force and it was so cheesy “I’m not jean I’m Phoenix ” she’s talking to Scott through her mind powers as she’s doing it. She gives in and explodes and she wipes out all the fleet. The movie ends with the possibility of her still being out there

The cut I saw was really long and not finished obvi. It’s going to be shorter I feel because it was like way over 2 hours. Dazzler is in the movie making lights during a party scene (they are celebrating the team saving the day in the beginning). Genosha is like government sanciotned land to mutants. That’s what the dialogue makes it out to be. Magneto leads the group of mutants who live peacefully there. It’s really dramatic( which is fine) but a lot of the drama falls flat because of the script tbh. She only becomes the phoenix at the end and I kid you not she wears the same reddish coat for most of the movie. When she flies into space she just goes on fire with the same civilian coat. Like fox is so scared about costumes Idk why. Toad is not in it, psyloke is not in it.

PS.: Thanks for editing my post. Spoiler tag wasn't working for me.
It’s all true lolol even the red coat
 
I was reading the spoilers leaked on reddit a few months ago, and almost everything seems to be true judging by the trailer:

-I want to make sure that this is clear – I am talking about the cut of the movie I saw. Things could still get tweaked here and there. But I do believe some things won’t change. What can’t change is the movie being really underwhelming. Really lower your expectations because this one is not good. Mystique dies. They repeat moments from X3 I kid you not.

-They repeat the moment between jean and Cyclops “take off the glasses and kiss me I can control your eyes”

Don't have print of it, but the russian trailer shows this scene.

-We see Charles pick up jean as a child again

-jean almost kills Charles again by levitating him and dissolving him

-Magneto does become an opposing force again and faces off with Charles’ team. It’s funny because before their fight begins and Charles is trying to talk him out of it magneto goes like “every time we do this it’s the same thing over again”- something along those lines.


Beast-Magneto-and-Professor-X-in-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix.jpg


And Eric does say "You're always sorry, Charles. And there's always a speech... and nobody cares,"


-x-men are like Avengers status at the beginning of the film (which feels really unearned) -astronauts at risk of dying in space(literally the atmosphere not space) due to some cosmic waves

-x-men save them but jean gets hit by waves

-they return and she starts freaking out about her powers

-the movie begins with young jean getting in a car crash with her two parents. At this point after the rescue we find out that her powers were responsible and she feels guilty for killing her mother. We find out that her dad is still alive though so she escapes the mansion all emotional to go find him.

-when jean got hit by the cosmic rays she sent the spaceship flying into space and somehow it ****ing lands on an alien planet. The aliens look st the wreckage and go “**** it this means war. Let’s go get the phoenix force” that’s literally their whole motivation.

-jean finds her dad and she gets pissed that Charles lied to her about her parents being dead. But Charles lied because her dad didn’t want her anymore. When she finally realizes all of this she almost kills her dad but the x men come to save her. She is really edgy at this point.

-she kills mystique by accident

-beast gets all mad because he loved her.

-beast goes to find magneto for help to defeat jean

-charles takes the rest of the team to get to jean before the aliens and beast/magneto can

-movie is so boring I’m sorry of this isn’t the best description but the movie ends with a cgi battle and its not very exciting because the aliens look boring and have generic levitation powers (they do shape shift into humans but they LOOK NOTHING LIKE SKRULLS AND THE WORD SKRULL IS NEVER SAID)

-there is an alien invasion and jean flies into space and gives up all her powers to destroy the fleet. The end

About individual costumes:
-Lmao those costumes are completely gone. The ones from the set photos. Simple black with the yellow forming an X on the upper half. These costumes only get worn twice out of the entire movie as well. Third act is them in civilian clothing

About Chastain's character name:
I really couldn’t tell you because they don’t ever say it. She’s a generic alien. The cut I saw didn’t establish the name of the species or characters. Yes they are all grey. But it could have been due to the lack of cgi? The alien effects were not even close to being finished

About the ending:
Jean goes into space and finally gives in to phoenix force and it was so cheesy “I’m not jean I’m Phoenix ” she’s talking to Scott through her mind powers as she’s doing it. She gives in and explodes and she wipes out all the fleet. The movie ends with the possibility of her still being out there

The cut I saw was really long and not finished obvi. It’s going to be shorter I feel because it was like way over 2 hours. Dazzler is in the movie making lights during a party scene (they are celebrating the team saving the day in the beginning). Genosha is like government sanciotned land to mutants. That’s what the dialogue makes it out to be. Magneto leads the group of mutants who live peacefully there. It’s really dramatic( which is fine) but a lot of the drama falls flat because of the script tbh. She only becomes the phoenix at the end and I kid you not she wears the same reddish coat for most of the movie. When she flies into space she just goes on fire with the same civilian coat. Like fox is so scared about costumes Idk why. Toad is not in it, psyloke is not in it.

PS.: Thanks for editing my post. Spoiler tag wasn't working for me.


Ew.
 
She is wearing a coat in the movie, although not reddish:

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And in the poster, it does look like the red coat from X3:

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I don't understand why they would want to do anything similar at all to X3. Did they think we all loved it?
 
Are people seriously stretching? she hasn't got a red coat in any of that footage.
 
Sophie mentioned in her interview last night that she's wearing a red coat in the movie
 
I don't understand why they would want to do anything similar at all to X3. Did they think we all loved it?
I wonder if they think the core issues with it were the cure plot and the Juggernaut... so they're trying to serve us X-Men 3 again but without those things. Unfortunately those weren't the only problems.
 
I wonder if they think the core issues with it were the cure plot and the Juggernaut... so they're trying to serve us X-Men 3 again but without those things. Unfortunately those weren't the only problems.
Even if X3 had no problems, why give us the same stuff again?
 
I wonder if they think the core issues with it were the cure plot and the Juggernaut... so they're trying to serve us X-Men 3 again but without those things. Unfortunately those weren't the only problems.

But you need to be able to desperate the issues from the assumed issues.

If you look at the film and judge the whole thing as being bad, then you don't actually know what the issues really were and have just packaged everything together as being the problem.
 
Even if X3 had no problems, why give us the same stuff again?

I am thinking they want to play with the whole they changed history but the future still rhymes and has similarities. For DoFP, that made sense. But here, just do something new!
 
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To be fair I thought Golden Circle was a hit? (Even though it was "meh.") Conversely, War for the Planet of the Apes was great, even if it didn't make money.

Yes, the rest of those are bad or merely meh (Red Sparrow). With that said, I quite liked The Post and Greatest Showman, which were hits last holiday season. :shrugs:
FoX is mostly a miss thats the point.
 

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