Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Davidstorm]

I think simon simply wants to avoid some problems similar to what happened in XMA or even with the recent VENOM
the first trailer of DP shows practically no action scene or great moments of the film, already in apocalypse the trailers practically killed in advance the film, showed almost everything of the film and with bad effects without being finalized, each trailer practically came the same scenes with improvements, the voice of apocalypse for example changed with each trailer, I found a mess, then analyzing better, simon made a correct choice, if he had released a full trailer of action with unfinished effects would cause much more frustration and criticism, the The first trailer is warm but that does not cause any big problems.

 

[ciscostudent561]

worst fears confirmed and even worse ideas popped up

-more mags , ugh disgusting
-mockingjay girl again? uggggggghhh
-i could be wrong but looks like an internal struggle instead of the external force. this is revolting

Hey but Cyke looks awesome, hopefully this movie ends with Phoenix annihilating this universe.

 

[josh8]

I still think what killed XM:A's buzz was the way they cut their trailers to market to some "in-between" audience. Not even necessarily tweens, just some market with no potential. The feel of the movie was like kind of X-Men, but sort of Hunger Games/ Divergent-ish with their EMO song choices. They alienated their core base, and didn't attract a new one. No one was picking up what they were laying down.

Now with DP, I definitely think they're playing it a little more mature and cautious.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I think simon simply wants to avoid some problems similar to what happened in XMA or even with the recent VENOM
the first trailer of DP shows practically no action scene or great moments of the film, already in apocalypse the trailers practically killed in advance the film, showed almost everything of the film and with bad effects without being finalized, each trailer practically came the same scenes with improvements, the voice of apocalypse for example changed with each trailer, I found a mess, then analyzing better, simon made a correct choice, if he had released a full trailer of action with unfinished effects would cause much more frustration and criticism, the The first trailer is warm but that does not cause any big problems.

XMA wrapped Principal Photography in August 2015 (with them still doing 2nd unit work in September). The first trailer was released in December that same year. That's a 4-month turnaround.

DP wrapped October last year and only released its trailer this year. That's an 11-month turnaround. There are no excuses for not having "action or great moments (lol) of the film." I mean you can make up some (and you have) but they're not valid.

Kinberg's "one job" was earrings?

The one job "meme" means it's such a simple task but they failed to do it properly.

You got me there Grace Randolph, Feige will budget some beautiful earrings to everyone AND Lola Studios to boot, so may no X-Man or X-Woman look wide again.

That name again. You guys are obsessed with Grace Randolph...

You don't think making the actor/character look the best way possible are thoughts that should be running thru the mind of the film's costume designer (and ultimately, the director)? Perhaps they should all just wear white garbage bags with bottle caps for earrings.

But for me, any story elements that involve Raven should be dropped and discarded and burned with fire. If only she wasn't included in First Class, the franchise would be in so much better shape!

Not much would have changed at all really.

LOL what?

 

[xrs13]

I don’t really mind the trailer not being action heavy, I prefer teasers to be more story based and then see action in the more epic second and third. Ala dofp

 

[psylockolussus]

Take a walk, get a little fresh air maybe.

Take your advice.

 

[LightDaggers]

I think it looks really good, I'm pretty excited.

 

[Dr.]

Release moved to June 7.

‘Alita’ Flies Out Of Christmas Season, ‘Dark Phoenix’ To Rise Summer, ‘Deadpool’ Re-release Hits Sked, ‘Gambit’ Now 2020 – Fox Date Changes

 

[EnDz0n3]

OMG. "Two weeks reshoots" @Erik Lensherr

 

[psylockolussus]

What are they looking at ? Venom ?

Dark phoeniX. Venom cannot be used by Fox.

 

[Web-Head]

Why'd they push this back again?

 

[Web-Head]

Dark phoeniX. Venom cannot be used by Fox.

Alright, Drax

 

[fobi]

They just put out a trailer with a big February 14th release date on it. What are they thinking!? Is this all because of Alita?

 

[Zarex]

I'm hoping once the deal closes that Feige will keep "Gambit" on the production schedule, but also keep up the tradition of delaying said production on a regular basis.

 

[GuestStar2004]

LOL what?

Yes.

 

[josh8]

If this is true, I'm pretty surprised because their marketing just launched with the Feb 14 date.

However, it's totally to be expected that FOX is going to do A LOT of shuffling on account of the Disney acquisition. But cue the freaking out anyway....

 

[EnDz0n3]

They've done extensive reshoots.

Yes.

If you're saying JLaw's Mystique is a waste of character and/or screen time, then yes most people would agree.

 

[josh8]

They've done extensive reshoots.

Which is totally understandable. They originally filmed before the merger was a thing. If they had set up for a sequel, that has to be completely overhauled. Some things are out of their control and they have to adapt.

 

[fobi]

If this is true, I'm pretty surprised because their marketing just launched with the Feb 14 date.

However, it's totally to be expected that FOX is going to do A LOT of shuffling on account of the Disney acquisition. But cue the freaking out anyway....

Alita and Dark Phoenix are two $200m films and both have very low hype so I can see them trying to do their best to maximize profits. Alita was coming out alongside Bumblebee and Aquaman so that was probably going to flop in December. This PG-13 Deadpool definitely sounds like a Disney test.

 

[psylockolussus]

Oh c'mon! Lmao i hate that we have to wait longer but this is another sign that its bad, which proves me right.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Delayed again? Jeez...

 

[fobi]

Oh c'mon! Lmao i hate that we have to wait longer but this is another sign that its bad, which proves me right.

What about them moving Alita? What does it say about that? Or is this all because DP is bad? I mean there won't be any additional reshoots so it's not like they can change much.

 

[josh8]

Oh c'mon! Lmao i hate that we have to wait longer but this is another sign that its bad, which proves me right.

Omg it proves nothing. THERE IS A FREAKING ACQUISITION IN PROCESS. You think they have the luxury of just proceeding as if nothing is happening. All of Fox's films have to be released by a certain date (that we the public have no idea about); there's going to be a lot scrambling going on for all of their films.

Honestly, what are you even doing on this forum? These movies are literally 2 hrs of your life; the main joy/entertainment for a lot of us are the months of speculation and discussion. We spend these moments on ups and downs, but if you're just going to be down all the damn time, just why??

 

[Davidstorm]

XMA wrapped Principal Photography in August 2015 (with them still doing 2nd unit work in September). The first trailer was released in December that same year. That's a 4-month turnaround.

DP wrapped October last year and only released its trailer this year. That's an 11-month turnaround. There are no excuses for not having "action or great moments (lol) of the film." I mean you can make up some (and you have) but they're not valid.



I think you forgot some things, but I'll remind you, DP went through reshoots that took time to happen because of the non-date matching with some actors, those reshoots happened a few days ago and lasted for practically 3 weeks, rumors say most scenes of action of the film is in this 3 act that is being improved, so putting those scenes that are being modified or improved with effects still without finalized in a first trailer would be a disaster, and you would probably criticize (even more) so that's not an excuse, it's just logical.