Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[X-Maniac]

Whoa, that Deadline article has some juicy tidbits. You guys gotta read the whole article.

In fairness, most of us who come here regularly knew all that...

We've had a few insiders offering tidbits about the movie.

Also, as far as I understand, it wasn't previously an "intimate ending" with those four characters, it was set at the United Nations and featured an invading fleet of spaceships.

 

[imbruglia]

Nobody said the reshoot was done because of other marvel movie. That was fake news. james only said that original "finale" was smilar to recent movie. That's all.

 

[Lip]

Just seen the movie.

Lifeless. Heartless. Emotionless.

Judge me all you want but, for me, this scene right here has more emotion than the entire Dark Phoenix movie:

 

[X-Maniac]

So if it wasnt captain marvel then what other movie was the original end battle copying too much from?

Fassbender and McAvoy did indeed say that... but of course they may have made assumptions after seeing what Captain Marvel did when it came out.

Test audiences apparently also felt the ending was too much like Independence Day with all the spaceships in the sky.

 

[Marvel united]

‘Dark Phoenix’ Bombs And Will Lose $100M+: Here’s Why – Deadline



Deadline also confirms a lot of what we knew of the troubled production. People please read the whole article.

We were right. Disney WOULD have been better off not releasing it to theaters as they would have not lost as much money to marketing this movie

 

[Lip]

Now I'll be watching the 90's animated adaptation of Dark Phoenix to forget about this movie.

 

[Sage2016]

They can come out with a gazillion different reasons why this panned. But a crap movie is still a crap movie. They can use this as an excuse now for New Mutants never seeing the light of day.

 

[Mysteryman]

Sorry that it didn't work out.

 

[The Guard]

Days Of Future Past
X2
X-Men
First Class
The Last Stand
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix

Origins still maintains it's title as worst X-Men movie overall.

And its title as the worst title.

 

[Charzhin0]

Fassbender and McAvoy did indeed say that... but of course they may have made assumptions after seeing what Captain Marvel did when it came out.

Oh. I was referring to detective conans article where it says the captain marvel thing isnt true...so i dunno.

Test audiences apparently also felt the ending was too much like Independence Day with all the spaceships in the sky.

They had a problem with Dark Phoenix copying a (thrilling) movie from the 90s? Lol. Would have loved to see a big alien invasion fight, something brand new in the franchise

 

[sleekstereo]

That Jean X2 scene is so amazing. Sigh

 

[icekid]

That’s not why at all. The only comparisons with Independence Day were by Fox execs when they said he can still keep the alien aspect of his visions without needing to flesh them out, much like that movie.

 

[Detective Conan]

We were right. Disney WOULD have been better off not releasing it to theaters as they would have not lost as much money to marketing this movie

This failure leaves Disney with the hard question: Do you shelve New Mutants or do you spend money the money on the reshoots or do you not and put it on Hulu or something? Either way the Mouse is going to lose money either way. One part of me thinks it makes no sense to waste money on the reshoots for a film that doesn't look likely to make much money, and tested poorly( if the rumors are to believed) since you're just throwing good money after bad and they'd be better of just dump it on Hulu but at the same time New Mutants cost considerably less to make than this so even if it tanks I don't see Disney taking a massive loss like they're going to take with Dark Phoenix(unless they do costly Solo/Justice League level re-shoots that balloons up the budget). The money has already been spent on New Mutants so the answer really depends on how much does New Mutants needs to be re-shot before it can get to a remotely watchable state.

 

[Hand Banana]

Just seen the movie.

Lifeless. Heartless. Emotionless.

Judge me all you want but, for me, this scene right here has more emotion than the entire Dark Phoenix movie:

Not judging you at all. I disagreed with you on a lot of things but I’m with you on this one.

The pacing is just so rushed that it doesn’t give the audience enough time to contemplate. I was rewatching the trailers and they cut out A LOT of stuff.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Sage2016]

R.I.P

Famke's Jean
Hugh's Wolverine
James' Cyclops
Halle's Storm
Kelsey's Beast
Patrick's Xavier
Ian's Magneto
Rebecca's Mystique
Tyler's Sabretooth
Ray's Toad
Daniel's Colossus
Shawn's Ice-Man
Aaron's Pyro
Alan's Nightcrawler
Anna's Rogue


You may not have been perfect but you were still family. To the first class group, yeah, bye.

 

[Hand Banana]

We were right. Disney WOULD have been better off not releasing it to theaters as they would have not lost as much money to marketing this movie

I think they should have released the 2+ hour version. I think that version’s RT meter would have been at least better than Apocalypse’s and gain a 50+ million opening like they projected.

 

[samsnee]

New Mutants is definitely getting shelved now.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

I think they should have released the 2+ hour version. I think that version’s RT meter would have been at least better than Apocalypse’s and gain a 50+ million opening like they projected.

The rt meter had nothing to do with box office. The complete lack of interest did.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Love the #XmenOriginalCast always!

 

[Sage2016]

Love the #XmenOriginalCast always!

I miss them. I even liked they had Pyro's lighter and Nightcrawler's crucifix chain on the shrine in the Rogue Cut. It was a nice touch for two characters not present.

 

[DACrowe]

Just seen the movie.

Lifeless. Heartless. Emotionless.

Judge me all you want but, for me, this scene right here has more emotion than the entire Dark Phoenix movie:

You are correct that scene is better than all of this movie.

 

[Raiders]

Longtime X-MEN Producer Disowns DARK PHOENIX With A Now Deleted Josh Trank-Style Tweet
Interesting article.

 

[MasterBoss]

Just seen the movie.

Lifeless. Heartless. Emotionless.

Judge me all you want but, for me, this scene right here has more emotion than the entire Dark Phoenix movie:

This scene has more emotion than anything in Dark Phoenix.

X3 is a masterpiece compared to this film.

 

[Sage2016]

At least Famke could pull off intimidating.