Sequels X-Men: First Class

[Carlo Comicus]

yawn.

 

[FaT_tONle]

singer's latest comments are interesting......

I still think this is the perfect chance to just "reboot" the whole franchise and start fresh. You can keep it in the same "realistic" universe as the other X-films, without actually tying into them. Kind of an "alternate" or "parallel" universe.....

For example, why should we care about young Cyclops in this movie, when we know he's going to turn into a "wuss" in the later X-movies, and dies in 10 seconds in X3?

Why should we care about the love relationship between Scott and Jean, when in the later X-movies, it was practically non-existent?

Why should we care about any character development if we already know the outcome ( and it's an outcome we don't like )?

This is the perfect chance to start fresh and anew....not retread the same old same old....

Singer really said all that?

 

[Matt Mortem]

No.

 

[X Knight]

Singer really said all that?

no.....that's my opinion........sorry if I didn't make that clear.....

I was just saying that I found Singer's latest comments, as posted on the Hype homepage, interesting..

However, I'd prefer if he takes this opportunity to essentially reboot the franchise and start fresh....and not try to tie it in the previous X-movies.......

Cuz...quite frankly.....I feel that the current X-movie franchise is stale.....I'm tired of this franchise and I want to see something different......something closer to the source material......

 

[SymbioticToxin]

Singer really said all that?

Yeaaaah, no

 

[The Guard]

From the latest interview, Singer said that Xavier and Magneto would be their 20's, so are we even going to see the "X-Team" (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, etc.)? Is the movie more about Xavier and Magneto than our favorite team of mutants?

Flash...backs.

 

[X Knight]

oh.....and as further "proof" as to why we need to get away from the previous X-films.....

look what they did to Gambit. they never used Gambit in the X1-3 movies, so that he could be Rogue's age ( and thus a potential love interest....to counter the Bobby/Kitty dynamic )...

no.....instead they used him, in all places, in Wolverine's ORIGIN movie.......which takes place some 20 years before the main X movies....meaning if we were to follow that continuity.....Gambit would be 40 something and thus it would be extremely creepy if he were to pursue the young, teenage Rogue......

IOW.......the timelines and continuity are all f***** up!!

 

[Deaths Head II]

Gambit was older then Rogue in the X-Men Evolution cartoon I believe...but 40 years old probably is a bit much. Maybe Sinister's genetic engineering could be used to slow down his aging process. An artificially younger Gambit with a young Rogue is way less creepy then the Twilight romance at least.

But either way, we're not getting a reboot until this series stops making money. No company is going to reboot a successful product.

 

[Project862006]

well in wolverine cyclops looked 17(even tho the actor is 24) and James Marsden was 26 when x-1 came out back in 2000

so gambit is not like 40 lol

 

[X Knight]

well in wolverine cyclops looked 17(even tho the actor is 24) and James Marsden was 26 when x-1 came out back in 2000

so gambit is not like 40 lol

well...if Wolverine Origins takes place around 20 years before the "present day" X-movies......then Gambit would be close to 40 in the present day X-movie timeline..... 17 + 20 = 37

If anything.....he's still going to be at least in his 30s....which would still be creepy if he pursued a teen Rogue.......

 

[FaT_tONle]

Gambit was playing a really young guy in Origins... no older than 19ish, so even though Rogue hadn't been born yet in all likelyhood, or a baby, it will still be a mid 40 on mid 20 sort of relationship by X-4. We've seen worse. Origins was more like a 17 year gap than a 20+ year gap to X-1 anyhow.

 

[Mad Ones]

I really hope Origins has no affect on this movie, or any influence. I'd rather pretend it never existed. I hate that Xavier's first contact with his first X-man was in that horrid movie, and I'd rather it happen in a different way in this movie.

Another thing I'm excited for: their costumes! I doubt they'd go for the leather look again with them just being kids, so we might get to see something different. I think the First Class costumes from the books would be very doable.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I hope they change the costumes up a bit too. Beast wore a very different outfit for X3 so it would make sense that they would have black and yellow or blue and yellow outfits in their early years.

 

[david icke]

Sentinels don't have to be government-run. They could just have Trask's father or Scott Lang make a prototype in private and have the young X-Men fight against it like the epic fight in X-Men Evolution. The X-Men vs the very first Sentinel battle was fantastic since the X-Men had such a hard time taking down one Sentinel that you wonder how mutants could ever survive with a whole army of them in play.

At the end, either Trask could die or Professor X wipes the memories of all the humans involved of the existence of mutants. Magneto sees the Sentinel as the future of mutant hunting and he can't pretend that peace is going to work anymore. It would be a perfect catalyst to Professor X and Magneto going their seperate ways.

I think it would be an awful idea to have Xavier wiping folk's memories of the X-Men and/or the Sentinels at the end of a/every movie.
Apart from the fact it would just be a gimmick-y reset button, it would ask the question of why he did not do this in the other X-Men films.
Especially if it is to do with the giant Sentinels, who would be crushing buildings etc , or else they would have to fight the X-Men in the middle of nowhere. There would still be evidence of their existence.

I do not think we will get the massive Sentinels in these movies, at best we will get human sized ones, which is what I think Singer was going to do in X2 before budget rescrictions nixed that idea.
so yeah, maybe small non-gov sentinels.

My money is on MrSinister as the villan though.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I think it would be an awful idea to have Xavier wiping folk's memories of the X-Men and/or the Sentinels at the end of a/every movie.

You must really not like the X-Men comics or cartoons then. It's a very believable aspect of telepathy but only if it's a small cluster of people that can be contained. I only wouldn't like it if they used it more then once.

I actually would imagine the Sentinel story occuring in a very isolated area. In the original story I believe Trask created Sentinels on his own and their base was in an isolated location I believe. All they would have to change in that story is to remove Trask announcing the creation of his Sentinels on television. Have the X-Men somehow stumble on his plans.

And like I said, perhaps the people involved simply get killed. Trask died in the original story. And even if they left out the part about Trask regretting his invention they could have Magneto slaughter the people involved, further distancing himself from Xavier.

Of course if we're following the X-Men Origins: Wolverine continuity then it doesn't have to be a private affair because sections of the government was apparently aware of mutants for some time. It's a stupid change, but it's there.

I do not think we will get the massive Sentinels in these movies, at best we will get human sized ones, which is what I think Singer was going to do in X2 before budget rescrictions nixed that idea.
so yeah, maybe small non-gov sentinels.

I don't think we'll get full sized Sentinels but I would like X-Men Evolution-size Sentinels. Bigger then a person but nowhere near as big as the comic sentinels.

 

[Doc Ock]

I'm glad to see Singer returning to X-Men! The franchise is a dark place without him!

 

[david icke]

You must really not like the X-Men comics or cartoons then.

Well, I'll tell you something, I do love both the X-Men and Wolverine comics, the 90s cartoon and the recent W and the XM, but I could not stand what I saw of XM Evolution, but anyway, I was thinking you meant something else, like Xavier using Cerebro on large sections of the population who witnessed large scale battles with the Sentinals.

It's a very believable aspect of telepathy and it's used often but only if it's a small cluster of people that can be contained. I only wouldn't like it if they used it more then once.

Ok, yes, that's fine, but I'm talking about large groups of people that would witness a Sentinel battle, which is what you seemed to be suggesting, the other thing is entirely different.
Like when he wiped the circus' memories of the X-Men after they first fought the Blob, that's fine, but not like a city of people.

I actually would imagine the Sentinel story occuring in a very isolated area. In the original story I believe Trask created Sentinels on his own and their base was in an isolated location I believe. All they would have to change in that story is to remove Trask announcing the creation of his Sentinels on television. Have the X-Men somehow stumble on his plans.

And like I said, perhaps the people involved simply get killed. Trask died in the original story. And even if they left out the part about Trask regretting his invention they could have Magneto slaughter the people involved, further distancing himself from Xavier.

Ok, having them fight Sentinals in the middle of nowhere is ok for continuity sakes, but to me, is a little less interesting than having them going into populated areas looking for mutants.

Of course if we're following the X-Men Origins: Wolverine continuity then it doesn't have to be a private affair because sections of the government was apparently aware of mutants for some time. It's a stupid change, but it's there.

Not really, in XOW it's like the secret sections of the governement who know about UFOs and aliens in the X-Files, as opposed to the senators discussing thgem openly in Congress in X-Men1.
I suppose you could have them make the Sentinals, the 'black ops' types.

I don't think we'll get full sized Sentinels but I would like X-Men Evolution-size Sentinels. Bigger then a person but nowhere near as big as the comic sentinels.

I'm sorry but from the couple of eps I saw of that cartoon I did not like it at all, felt like it was putting me off the X-Men. But, I get what you are saying.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Well, I'll tell you something, I do love both the X-Men and Wolverine comics, the 90s cartoon and the recent W and the XM, but I could not stand what I saw of XM Evolution, but anyway, I was thinking you meant something else, like Xavier using Cerebro on large sections of the population who witnessed large scale battles with the Sentinals.

Oh I see. Yeah, I meant something more along the lines of Xavier mindwiping the Blob's circus. That line about how you must not like X-Men that much was just a joke alluding to events like that in the comics and cartoons where Xavier mindwipes a small group of people. Xavier using Cerebro to do a mass mind wipe would be very ridiculous.

 

[samsnee]

Late to the conversation... so I assume they are going to re-cast Xavier and Magneto with younger actors? Just because I can't see them using that de-aging FX the whole movie without killing the budget.

 

[zenith16]

I don't think they'll bother with the de ageing thing that much seeing fox booted the orginal special effects company that did both X2 and 3 and the spider man movies.
As Isaid earlier


All cause that company be came well known during the Oscars and started selling their software to the public. and then fox oddly got another company during XO.

Fox and their odd reasoning over money and wanting things overly cheap. it's amazing what they'll do.

bah i'm sure that first company wouldn't have over charged them too. You most likely get the same people that did the XO:W movie SFX which means more alien looking Xavier and now with a taste of mags too.

well until some one smart wakes up and gets the first SFX company back.

Meh don't hold your breath though

 

[Superhero 101]

The only actor i see portraying a young Prof X is Michael Rosenbaum

 

[Spider-Fan83]

^actually you know another name that i've been considering lately is...Mark Feuerstein

Late to the conversation... so I assume they are going to re-cast Xavier and Magneto with younger actors? Just because I can't see them using that de-aging FX the whole movie without killing the budget.

wonder how much younger they can make them look with just make up ?
I am sure they wouldn't look as young, but, it would still be cheaper

anyway, I would happily sacrifice them looking older, over recasting them, or a cheapy looking FX

I still hope this 20 something, stuff, is just for a flashback scene

 

[Primal Slayer]

Please, Please, Please, tell me this isnt going to focus mainly on a 20something Xavier and Magneto....

 

[marvelrobbins]

If they totally rebooted then they would want to use Wolverine.If not people finally get a non Wolverine X-Men film.Plus as I have made comment about
the James Bond Reboot,If you reboot you don't keep people around who
made the films In the first place.As I said I suspect the first part of the
film will be set during the 1960's for when Xavier and magneto meet,and then
they will jump to the 1980's after the end of Wolverine for the rest of the film.
If Fox wasn't so cheap I would think they would use Patrick Stewart and Ian
Mckellan for the later part so someone In the previous films would be In the
film but my suspecion Is they will hire actors who can do both being In their
20's and 40's with Makeup.Beast will almost certainly be In his prefurry
form.If Emma Frost Is In the film she like In Wolverine will likely only have diamond power and not telepathic powers.And If she Is In It I expect a Cyclops Emma Jean Triangle.

 

[BMM]

I don't see why the 20 year old Magneto and Xavier scenes need to be flashbacks. I have no problem if the movie simply starts that early and progresses from there.