You don't twerk in a Wrestling Thread!

[Hunter Rider]

Of course nobody thinks that. For one thing, I'm not sure Nikki can read.

Fair point Pinky, she does know her symbols though $$$$$$$.

 

[I'm Venom]

He was the voice of the WWE, it's still odd to me not having him at the table at ringside, but you have to give him a proper sendoff. I just want him to do one last event, hopefully WrestleMania 30. Bad news, because that means Michael Cole is now the voice of the WWE by default, and that's bad news no matter how you slice it.

 

[OnTheAir]

 

[Hunter Rider]

CityBeat.com did an interview with Dean Ambrose to promote WWE filming SmackDown in Ambrose's hometown of Cincinnati next Tuesday.
Ambrose revealed what standard he is holding himself to:

“To me, anything less than being the top guy in the industry, the top villain in the industry, the WWE Champion, is a failure. That’s a lot of pressure to put on yourself, but whenever I look at it realistically, that’s just how it is.”
​

He goes on to talk about his youth, the earlier part of his career as Jon Moxley, NXT and more. Click here to read the full story.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Looks like he was forced to retire. In other words, he was nicely fired. Damn shame.

I can see JR calling the reason he retired as "nonsense."

 

[Wheels]

CityBeat.com did an interview with Dean Ambrose to promote WWE filming SmackDown in Ambrose's hometown of Cincinnati next Tuesday.
Ambrose revealed what standard he is holding himself to:

“To me, anything less than being the top guy in the industry, the top villain in the industry, the WWE Champion, is a failure. That’s a lot of pressure to put on yourself, but whenever I look at it realistically, that’s just how it is.”
​

He goes on to talk about his youth, the earlier part of his career as Jon Moxley, NXT and more. Click here to read the full story.

Ambrose is a top heel waiting to happen in my opinion. He must have enjoyed being in segments with Edge, because Edge is one of his favorites.

 

[NDX]

Of course nobody thinks that. For one thing, I'm not sure Nikki can read.

 

[bullets]

Yep. It sounds like he was given the push in nicest way possible after the 2K14 presentation fiasco. Shame. The panel was great.

It was great to see all those legends on the panel and I can't imagine a real fan would only want them to discuss the game. The fiasco gave the panel more publicity. This is a lousy sendoff for one of the greatest commentators of all time whose contributions to the company are invaluable. I hope JR still continues to blog about Wrestling.


This is what J.R. should of done...

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http://www.jrsbarbq.com/node/36887
Submitted by J.R. on Wed, 09/11/2013 - 7:50pm Wrestling


It's been quite a day. September 11, 2013 was my last day in WWE.
Its hard to believe that It was over 20 years ago when i debuted in WWE at WM9 & my first ever WWE assignment was doing play by play w/ the great, Bobby Heenan and the unpredictable Macho Man Randy Savage.
Time flies when one is enjoying one 's dream job. Heck, it only took me 19 years ti make it to the NFL of sports entertainment. Overnight sensation, right?
So, at the age if 61 it's time to close this chapter of my life and begin exploring new, adventures while my health is great.
I wouldn't have changed a thing in WWE except I wish that I'd been able to avoid some health issues along the way. That was the hand that I was dealt and I simply refused to fold it.
Other that health issues my 'run' in WWE has exceeded my wildest dreams.
I was fortunate enough to have a key role in arguably one of the most interesting and compelling eras in our business's history.
Hmmmm....perhaps a book is in order some day. Time will tell. Now I actually have the time to write the autobiography many have asked about over the years.
For the record, I'm not purchasing a rocking chair so I'm not "going away." I have many interests & I plan on exploring them all.
In the meantime, I hope you'll continue to support my family's online shopping efforts at http://www.wweshop.com and in UK at http://www.americansoda.co.uk.
Follow the next chapters in my life, that are yet to be written, on Twitter @JRsBBQ.
You guys are the best....thanks!
Boomer Sooner!
JR
@JRsBBQ

 

[Lantern Venom]

^ I hope JR makes a couple of special appearances in the future. Calling a future WM seems like a perfect fit.

 

[Wheels]

By Gawd The Wrestling Thread is Busted Wide Open!

 

[Lantern Venom]

Gotta let the Ham & Eggers know!

"She's here! Miss Elizabeth is here....sitting with the humanoids."

 

[Wheels]

"It's not fair to Flair"

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I was listening to Dave Meltzer talking about Jim Ross' "Retirement" and it seems like he was fired because of the WWE 2K14 Symposium incident.
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[Dr. Evil]

I was listening to Dave Meltzer talking about Jim Ross' "Retirement" and it seems like he was fired because of the WWE 2K14 Symposium incident.
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JR will refute that rumor.

Spoiler

Still laughing that Del Rio got no reaction during the Smackdown tapings.

 

[OnTheAir]

Saw this on Scott Keith's rspwfaq.net, posted by blog member "cabspaintedyellow" and thought it might be good for discussion here:


"So apparently, people online got up in arms when Dave Meltzer stopped just short of calling AJ a mark for getting the date of her Divas title win tattooed on her neck, since she was getting hyped up about winning the same title that "Debra McMichael and Sable won".

After people came to AJ's defense on the WO/F4W message boards about seeing nothing wrong with a woman wanting to mark the date of a dream she had since childhood, Meltzer responded:

"On the A.J. thing, this is going to break some hearts, but people who run wrestling companies laugh at wrestlers who are "belt marks" for undercard belts, especially when it comes to a pass-around belt vs. a main event belt that is given with the idea the person with it is anchoring business.

Promoters throughout time feel that there are the guys who want to be paid and the guys who want a belt and they can pay whatever they want to them as long as they give them a make-believe pass-around belt.

In both TNA and WWE there is that designation, given a few times a year from both sides in conversations that reference, which goes back longer than I've been following wrestling, has been around. One group is considered pros and the other group is considered fans who are on the roster and the belief is you can treat them very differently. There is an old saying about the latter group that you throw them a fish and watch them jump.

For ones own career, even if they consider it an accomplishment, if you want respect, you don't sell it publicly behind the scenes, only in fake media interviews and on TV.

Again, the world title (or the main event belt in any territory) is viewed entirely differently (although people who don't like Bret Hart would knock him over the same subject, but those people probably were going to find something to do that about either way, given I never heard anyone except Bockwinkel in fun, knock Harley Race over the same thing). I know of stories where someone in the industry will bring up to Lawler about all the belts he's won over his career and he immediately gives then a glare like they have no understanding of the business."

But the drama continued later, with Meltzer further clarifying his position after people wondered why it's such a bad thing to show passion about achieving milestones in your chosen profession.

"I know this is all silly and stuff, but when people bring up guys who win the Olympics or "If Ronda Rousey did it" winning the UFC title like it's the same thing is just weird.

When Brock Lesnar was asked, what was the biggest thing to him, winning the NCAA title, the WWE title or the UFC title, his response was, "One of those wasn't real."

If a child who wanted to be a doctor growing up ending up getting a minor part in a movie, when he had previously had bigger parts, where he played a doctor who won a fictitious scripted Nobel Prize for Medicine, and then announced he was getting a tattoo to commemorate his getting a Nobel Prize, the highest honor possible and greatest accomplishment in his life, what do you think the real world would think?

Why they'd say, of course that's great, because there was nothing higher he could do in his career then win a Nobel Prize in a small movie role that somebody scripted for him.

And the people who bring up he's had bigger parts and that it was scripted would be decried because they are the ones out of touch with the real world."


So which side do you come down on? Are you with Meltzer or with AJ?"

 

[TheNextNolan22]

JR will refute that rumor.

Spoiler

Still laughing that Del Rio got no reaction during the Smackdown tapings.

Ric Flair telling stories whilst being drunk would get more over than Del Rio.

 

[Dr. Evil]

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[Hunter Rider]

Having read Meltzer's match ratings I have no real faith in him, it's funny seeing him call someone a mark when he acts that way about Japanese wrestling and The Rock because the Rock threw his scrub ass some nuggets.

The further he goes into trying to justify his point with frankly dumb analogies the deeper he disapears up his own anus. The fact he seems oblivious to is that in her field within the business AJ has reached the pinnacle and from her tough childhood it's an amazing achievement, hence the tattoo.

 

[Wheels]

Having read Meltzer's match ratings I have no real faith in him, it's funny seeing him call someone a mark when he acts that way about Japanese wrestling and The Rock because the Rock threw his scrub ass some nuggets.

The further he goes into trying to justify his point with frankly dumb analogies the deeper he disapears up his own anus. The fact he seems oblivious to is that in her field within the business AJ has reached the pinnacle and from her tough childhood it's an amazing achievement, hence the tattoo.

I imagine AJ talking about her tattoo was the reason JBL and Lawler were making fun of her. It's like you said though, women only have so many accompaniments they can achieve in wrestling. The Hall of Fame induction is the only other thing to aspire to. I mean AJ will never get big time money anyway because she's a woman.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Well, if they are 135 pounds and have some sort of fighting background they could always go here:

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Good Ol' JR to retire from the WWE:
http://www.wwe.com/inside/jim-ross-to-retire-26147422


One of the best for sure. It didn't really matter who was in the ring, his play by play instantly made them look good and elevated whatever was happening.

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Man, sucks that JR is retired, but man did he ever leave behind a legacy. Thank you JR for calling some of the greatest and most important matches in the history of the WWE! And how ironic that the last match he called was Undertaker vs HHH in the Hell In A Cell from last year's WrestleMania and it was dubbed "The End Of An Era". And I'm happy to say I was there live to see him call his last match.

That's kind of how I feel about Wrestlemania 27, knowing I was there for Edge's last match.

Good for J.R.! His career spanned multiple eras, moving from being the voice of Mid-South/UWF to JCP/WCW and eventually becoming THE voice of the most successful era in the history of the business.

While I don't believe this "retirement" was his choice, I'm happy that he will be able to move on with his life and focus on other things, maybe even take advantage of new opportunities. Vince never really appreciated him, but he's in the vast minority. Jim Ross is one of the best ever.

Jim Ross IS one of the best ever. As far as I'm concerned, he's the best commentator in the history of commentating. My favorite, at least.

I'm legitimately sad that I'll never hear him call a match again.

Ric Flair telling stories whilst being drunk would get more over than Del Rio.

But in Del Rio's defense, Ric Flair telling stories while being drunk would be more over than Daniel Bryan, The Rock, Stone Cole Steve Austin, and the Hulk, all in their peaks, combined.

 

[Slushy]

While Ric Flair was entertaining, he went into business for himself by taking up time telling stories instead of letting the other guys talk. I can understand why WWE was pissed because the whole thing was supposed to promote the videogame, not be a Ric Flair shoot interview.

However, JR should not have gotten the boot (funny enough he even called it that he was going to get fired at the end of the panel for everything falling apart), but it seems like Vince never cared about or respected OK's finest and just wanted to find an excuse to fired him...again.


@ Hunter Rider

Its true about management not liking employees who are marks. I remember a story about a former writer who got scolded by a senior official when he complimented Johnny Ace about his work in Japan.

 

[TX85]

I haven't been here much since Monday night,anybody have the Smackdown spoilers?

 

[NDX]

Saw this on Scott Keith's rspwfaq.net, posted by blog member "cabspaintedyellow" and thought it might be good for discussion here:

Spoiler

"So apparently, people online got up in arms when Dave Meltzer stopped just short of calling AJ a mark for getting the date of her Divas title win tattooed on her neck, since she was getting hyped up about winning the same title that "Debra McMichael and Sable won".

After people came to AJ's defense on the WO/F4W message boards about seeing nothing wrong with a woman wanting to mark the date of a dream she had since childhood, Meltzer responded:

"On the A.J. thing, this is going to break some hearts, but people who run wrestling companies laugh at wrestlers who are "belt marks" for undercard belts, especially when it comes to a pass-around belt vs. a main event belt that is given with the idea the person with it is anchoring business.

Promoters throughout time feel that there are the guys who want to be paid and the guys who want a belt and they can pay whatever they want to them as long as they give them a make-believe pass-around belt.

In both TNA and WWE there is that designation, given a few times a year from both sides in conversations that reference, which goes back longer than I've been following wrestling, has been around. One group is considered pros and the other group is considered fans who are on the roster and the belief is you can treat them very differently. There is an old saying about the latter group that you throw them a fish and watch them jump.

For ones own career, even if they consider it an accomplishment, if you want respect, you don't sell it publicly behind the scenes, only in fake media interviews and on TV.

Again, the world title (or the main event belt in any territory) is viewed entirely differently (although people who don't like Bret Hart would knock him over the same subject, but those people probably were going to find something to do that about either way, given I never heard anyone except Bockwinkel in fun, knock Harley Race over the same thing). I know of stories where someone in the industry will bring up to Lawler about all the belts he's won over his career and he immediately gives then a glare like they have no understanding of the business."

But the drama continued later, with Meltzer further clarifying his position after people wondered why it's such a bad thing to show passion about achieving milestones in your chosen profession.

"I know this is all silly and stuff, but when people bring up guys who win the Olympics or "If Ronda Rousey did it" winning the UFC title like it's the same thing is just weird.

When Brock Lesnar was asked, what was the biggest thing to him, winning the NCAA title, the WWE title or the UFC title, his response was, "One of those wasn't real."

If a child who wanted to be a doctor growing up ending up getting a minor part in a movie, when he had previously had bigger parts, where he played a doctor who won a fictitious scripted Nobel Prize for Medicine, and then announced he was getting a tattoo to commemorate his getting a Nobel Prize, the highest honor possible and greatest accomplishment in his life, what do you think the real world would think?

Why they'd say, of course that's great, because there was nothing higher he could do in his career then win a Nobel Prize in a small movie role that somebody scripted for him.

And the people who bring up he's had bigger parts and that it was scripted would be decried because they are the ones out of touch with the real world."

So which side do you come down on? Are you with Meltzer or with AJ?"

Shut up Dave, you *******. Stop being a buzzkill.

 

[chamber-music]

One of my favorite JR calls is when all the McMahons united one time... "BAH GOD, THE MCMAHONS ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. THE SAME NASTY, VILE, EVIL PAGE!!!"

I read that in his voice t:

JBL and William Regal are my favourite to commentators in the WWE right now.