You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 10

Petition to make a thread specifically for sharing Batman music videos ?

Or an excuse to share vids that I made myself ?

You decide. Happy Batman day.

 
Looks that way. Maybe we need to invite more people here.
 
I don't know why they keep sub-forums open for Begins, TDK and TDKR anyway. They're all dead too!

Create a 'The Dark Knight Trilogy' sub-forum and pool all the threads together, including this one.
 
Pfeiffer-Pfan said:
I don't know why they keep sub-forums open for Begins, TDK and TDKR anyway. They're all dead too!

Create a 'The Dark Knight Trilogy' sub-forum and pool all the threads together, including this one.
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It's a part of history, methinks it should stay active as it is.
 
Do you think by TDK or TDKR Batman regretted that he had let Ra's die or did he not regret it? Him saving the Joker suggested he thought he did have to save even a villain although that could have been in large part because he knew the Joker didn't want him to, then in TDKR he doesn't deny that he killed him or even murdered him, kind of tries to justify it by that Ra's had been trying to kill millions.
 
I don't think he regretted saving millions of lives. It was him or them, and he knew it was a suicide mission on the part of the League of Shadows. There was no stopping Ras, even if they locked him up. It's not him just trying to justify it, it's fact. Ras was going to kill himself and so Batman had a choice. Joker was a different scenario.
 
I've justified "I don't have to save you" as Batman not being able to save Ra's at that moment. Ra's sabotaged the monorail's controls and had every intention of going down with the ship. The most Batman could've done was grapple him as he flew out of the train, but there's little guarantee that would've saved him. But this is obfuscated by the moment being framed as Bruce's victory over Ra's, which is tonally questionable given the circumstances.
 
So i was thinking about something that i haven't thought about since the movie was released. Does anyone else remember the set reports and even Tom Hardy quotes about some church scene in Rises between the priest, Gordon and Bane? And something about Hardy saying that Bane punched a pregnant woman in the stomach. If that's true, Nolan must have cut some of the edgier material out.
 
shauner111 said:
So i was thinking about something that i haven't thought about since the movie was released. Does anyone else remember the set reports and even Tom Hardy quotes about some church scene in Rises between the priest, Gordon and Bane? And something about Hardy saying that Bane punched a pregnant woman in the stomach. If that's true, Nolan must have cut some of the edgier material out.
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Whoa I've never heard that one before.
 
I don't think Ra's ever intended to die, he didn't expect the train track to be sabotaged.
At the point Batman leaves Ras the city has already been saved by Gordon, so there's no lives of millions excuse.
The line "I don't have to save you" suggests he could save Ras, just doesn't want to.
Batman sending Gordon in the Batmobile is what caused the train to crash, and Batman had an opportunity to save Ras (the way he saved Rachel in TDK).
He took a moment to think about it, then left someone to die in the train wreck he deliberately caused.
I love Batman Begins, but that is murder.
 
Aurakles said:
I don't think Ra's ever intended to die, he didn't expect the train track to be sabotaged.
At the point Batman leaves Ras the city has already been saved by Gordon, so there's no lives of millions excuse.
The line "I don't have to save you" suggests he could save Ras, just doesn't want to.
Batman sending Gordon in the Batmobile is what caused the train to crash, and Batman had an opportunity to save Ras (the way he saved Rachel in TDK).
He took a moment to think about it, then left someone to die in the train wreck he deliberately caused.
I love Batman Begins, but that is murder.
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Batman seems to try and stop the train I think. Ra's stabs the control console. I think no matter what, the train would've crashed eventually.
I don't think he had a way to save Ra's. He's heavier than Rachel and in that situation, how Batman got out, I don't think he could've grabbed Ra's and let himself be pulled out in the same way.
 
I don't think it's beyond Batman, even a more realistic and just starting out Batman, to rescue someone from a train. Earlier in the film we saw that the grapnel could support the weight of Batman while carrying another adult man.
"I don't have to save you" rather than "I can't save you" shows that he made a choice not to. He didn't even try.
A person was going to die and instead of trying to help, he left.
It's by no means the worst example of Batman killing someone, but that's what it is.
 
The thing with that scene is that Ra's sabotaged the train's controls and I've always enjoyed that Bruce basically turns Ra's' lesson about 'surroundings' against him with the resolution to this controversial scene. Besides, in spite of the character's much-vaunted 'no kill' rule, there's plenty of instances of Batman in other media, be it comics, cartoons etc. basically allowing people to die in similarly morally-gray situations, so I don't see why Begins Batman should be singled out for this.
 
'The Dark Knight' voted favourite movie of the past 21 years by entertainment.ie readers

After a week-long poll conducted by entertainment.ie, Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight' has come out on top as readers' favourite movie of the past 21 years.
The sequel to 'Batman Begins', 'The Dark Knight' was a critical and commercial success and is frequently cited as the best comic-book movie ever made and was chosen by 23.1% of entertainment.ie readers.

With 21 choices to select from, entertainment.ie readers were asked to choose from the likes of 'Children of Men', 'Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind', 'LA Confidential', 'Boogie Nights' and 'Titanic'.

'Good Will Hunting' came in second place, with 10.4% of the votes whilst 'Gladiator' was a close third with 10% even of the votes. Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings: Return of the King' came in fourth place with 9.2% of the vote whilst 'Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind' took fifth place with 7.6% of the vote.

Further down the list, 'There Will Be Blood' received 6% of the votes cast whilst Curtis Hanson's noir saga 'LA Confidential' received 5.2% of the vote. Pixar's 'Up' was the highest-ranked animated film on the list, receiving 4.8% of the vote compared to 'Finding Nemo', which received only 1.8% of votes cast.

Here are the results in full, as voted by you.


1. THE DARK KNIGHT
2. GOOD WILL HUNTING
3. GLADIATOR
4. LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN OF THE KING
5. ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
6. THERE WILL BE BLOOD
7. LA CONFIDENTIAL

8. UP
9. TITANIC
10. MULHOLLAND DRIVE
11. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
12. ZODIAC
13. BOOGIE NIGHTS
14. LOST IN TRANSLATION

15. FINDING NEMO
16. BOYHOOD
17. THE SIXTH SENSE
18. JOHN WICK
19. CHILDREN OF MEN
20.LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
21. THE INSIDER
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