2007 NFL Thread

[Memphis Slim]

The Giants would have to give up too much to get Chad Johnson....

They have money in NY.

 

[BlackLantern]

They have money in NY.

I'm sure Cincy would want a player or two....

 

[kane9321]

i'd take chad on the 49ers,we need recievers

 

[Memphis Slim]

i'd take chad on the 49ers,we need recievers

The Niners aren't that close to getting to the ring.

Those other teams I mentioned are very close.

 

[KALEL114]

We'll take him. We have an extra 1st round pick thanks to Cleveland. Could imagine the TD celebrations with TO and 85 collaborating?

 

[Silver Knight]

I would like to see him in at the 49's also.

 

[BlackLantern]

We'll take him. We have an extra 1st round pick thanks to Cleveland. Could imagine the TD celebrations with TO and 85 collaborating?

you can't co-celebrate anymore.....you get 15 yards for that as a taunting penalty......

 

[KALEL114]

Unfortunatly, do you think they care?

 

[Memphis Slim]

I would like to see him in at the 49's also.

I think stinko would rather be with a winner...

 

[BlackLantern]

Unfortunatly, do you think they care?

no but I dont think the coach would appreciate a 15 yard whack every time one of them scores a TD...

 

[Immortalfire]

That's why Johnson may underperform at times, too concerned with how he's going to celebrate a touchdown that he is with actually scoring it.

 

[Advanced Dark]

In case it hasn't been posted yet...new power rankings:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2007&week=8

I still think AFC South division race is NOT over by any means. Colts still have some tough division games ahead not to mention they play the pats.

 

[Dark Donnie]

Is Chad on trade block?
Volatile receiver says it wouldn't surprise him
By Kevin Goheen
Post staff reporter

DAVID KOHL/Associated Press
Chad Johnson's emotional outbursts have sometimes made
him appear to be a selfish player, a charge
that the receiver denies.

Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson could dodge the raindrops falling outside Paul Brown Stadium Monday afternoon. He couldn't dodge the questions concerning reports from two different national media outlets, including the NFL's own media arm, that he could be on the trading block next offseason.
Johnson has become the lightning rod for all that is negative with the Bengals. When asked if he had heard the trade rumors and if they bothered him, Johnson smiled wryly as he walked from the locker room to his car without answering.
Asked about the interpretation of his body language, Johnson began to open up.
"There is always truth in something. Always. There's always truth to something," said Johnson.
But how much truth is there to this something?
"That's the key," the receiver said.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on the network's Sunday morning NFL pre-game show that a prominent member of the Bengals organization said the front office has a decision to make on Johnson's future this coming offseason. The anonymous source allegedly told Mortensen that the club was afraid to discipline the four-time Pro Bowl receiver for some of his on-field antics for fear that Johnson would shut down. Johnson is second in the NFL with 680 receiving yards on 39 receptions. He gained 102 yards on three catches in Sunday's 38-31 victory against the New York Jets.
The NFL Network's Adam Schefter reported Sunday that Johnson is attempting to work his way out of town in the offseason.
Head coach Marvin Lewis did not confirm or deny the reports. He did say that no one from ESPN had spoken to him about the subject of trading Johnson.
"Did that come from anyone here?" answered Lewis when asked about the report on Monday at his press conference. "Is there a source inside this organization? Not the last time I checked. I don't think there are any sources inside this organization."
Lewis has been the "one voice" of the organization when it comes to speaking about personnel moves since taking over in 2003. The front office, including team president Mike Brown, has had limited public comments in the last five seasons.
Trades in the NFL are a rarity compared to the market in Major League Baseball. The NFL's salary cap structure makes it more difficult to make deal. When a team trades a player, while it becomes free of the player's salary responsibility, any guaranteed money - such as signing bonuses - that could be pro-rated over the life of the contract must be assumed in one year.
Many deals that are made involve players who are in the final years of their contract. That's not the case in Johnson's situation.
Johnson still had four years remaining on his deal when he signed what amounted to a six-year extension in April 2006 that was worth $35.5 million and runs through the 2011 season. The Bengals hold an option for that final season. Johnson was to be paid $16 million in bonus money and base salaries between last season and this one. His salary cap hit for this season is $7.515 million.
Johnson is making a base salary of $2.5 million this season. His base salaries rise to $3 million in 2008, $4.5 million in 2009, $5 million in 2010 and $6 million in 2011. If the Bengals choose not to exercise the option in that final season they would owe Johnson $3.5 million.
Johnson has made a name for himself by leading the AFC in receiving yards the last four seasons and for his touchdown celebrations. He has three touchdowns this season but hasn't celebrated since scoring twice at Cleveland on Sept. 16. Johnson has drawn the attention of TV cameras a couple of times this season for confrontations he's had with quarterback Carson Palmer.
Both Johnson and Palmer have downplayed their arguments as nothing more than competitors in the heat of battle but Johnson has been the subject of several stories the past couple of weeks that have alleged many of the troubles the Bengals have faced while starting the season 2-4 stem from a lack of maturity and selfishness. Johnson, right or wrong, has become the symbol of those criticisms.
"Some of the things that are being said are just so ridiculous," said Johnson. "I'm probably out of the norm of what a receiver should be. I am completely out of the norm. You all know that. I'm the only person that plays and talks and does the things he does but at the same time I'm very, very, very productive at what I do. Because I'm out of the norm I guess I'm an easy target for it.
"I cannot perform at a high level and not be Chad. It's impossible. It's impossible. I cannot and I will not change. Perception is not reality. For those who've been here for the longest you know what you see on the field is not me off."
Johnson took particular exception with a column written in Sunday's Cincinnati Enquirer by Paul Daugherty. Daugherty questioned whether Johnson being with the Bengals was a good thing for the long haul. Daugherty authored a book on Johnson titled "Chad: I Can't Be Stopped" in 2006.
"You would think that someone who actually had a year to deal with me and write my book, for one, going home and spending time with my grandma, understanding my background, understanding where I came from, knowing the ins and outs and all the struggles I've been through to get to this point, and to write what he wrote (Sunday), you've got to be kidding me," said Johnson.
"Everything I've done has always been positive, it's always been fun," said Johnson. "It's never been a "me, me, me" thing. It's how Chad plays the game. We knew that before Chad got here. I've been playing it the same way the past four years. I celebrate. I have fun with it. It is a dirty business. And to get the business side of it off my mind, I go out and have fun with it like I'm a little kid. That's all it is. It's the NFL. But I'm playing like it's the back yard. And I'm wrong because I'm not the norm?"
Johnson said he would not be shocked if he were to be traded in the offseason, not because he expects to be but rather because of the business aspect of the NFL. He said he is happy to be in Cincinnati and that his relationship with Lewis is a good one even though Lewis frowns upon some of the antics as unnecessary.
Johnson is already the franchise's all-time leading receiver in terms of yards with 7,605 in his seven seasons. He is 25 receptions from equaling Carl Pickens' franchise record and has caught at least one pass in 82 straight games, second only to Pickens' streak of 93 consecutive games.
"He is a team player," said Lewis on Monday. "He set out this year to block better. I'm very happy with that. And he's seen the ball get spread out more and he's had no issue with that. He knows that in order for him to have the success he's having, we need to be able to do other things correctly."

Get Him Eagles

 

[Silver Knight]

Whats the point? Mcnabb is washed up.

 

[Kaleb]

Cant see him going anywhere tbh, but if I had to pick a few teams that would take him then

1.Vikings ( worst wr group in the league)
2.Redksins ( Santana Moss has only had one good season there)
3.Jaguars ( all those wr they drafted seem to be busts)

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

i wouldnt mind seeing chad johnson go to the vikings if holcomb or somebody else is QB
holy cow....my 2,000 post

 

[Dark Donnie]

Whats the point? Mcnabb is washed up.

McNabb isn't washed up, he's still less then a year back from Major Knee Surgery...give him some time...see Carson Palmer, Edge, etc.

 

[Excel]

McNabb is doing fine; how can you possibly say someone whose best wide out is...kevin curtis...is washed up? QB's need someone to throw to; period. McNabb aint throwing pics left and right; that tells you hes still got the accuracy and brains. Get someone to catch it and you have a pro bowl caliber Q.B. and dangerous team.

Like Wilbon said on PTI; He aint failing the Eagles; Reid aint failing the Eagles; the front office is.

They McNabb; Westbrook; and whome?

Like it or not they needed T.O. and they didnt even resign Stallworth; what a mess.

If they were smart they would trade for SANTONIO HOLMES and make him their main man along with Kevin Curtis. Those and Westbrook in the backfield give McNabb 2 solid options and great one in the flats. Ocho Cinco would be a quick fix BUT he would get the balls so much he might not have a t.o style explosion.

 

[Dark Donnie]

They really need a deep threat....they should have drafted Santonio Holmes when they had the chance but didn't

 

[Matt]

Johnson is being used as a scape goat for Cincinatti's losing record, however, if he just learned to keep his mouth shut from time to time, he wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[Kaleb]

Cinci's main problem is their GM and the scouting department. Matt is right Chad is being used as a scape goat, if the bengals had a decent enough scouting department to do evaluations on all the players they intend to draft they wouldnt be having so many charater issues like they are having now.

 

[BlackLantern]

I think a tough part of it is attracting players to Cincinnati.....

 

[Kaleb]

I feel sorry for Carson Palmer.

 

[Dark Donnie]

Cinci's main problem is their GM and the scouting department. Matt is right Chad is being used as a scape goat, if the bengals had a decent enough scouting department to do evaluations on all the players they intend to draft they wouldnt be having so many charater issues like they are having now.

There great at evaluating talent(based on where they drafted Housh, and CJ), but as you said they can't judge character well at all....once or twice these types slip though but not on a consistant basis like in Cincy.

 

[Excel]

Johnson aint done ****; thats how the team is.

the problem is their freaking defense.