2007 NFL Thread

[Kaleb]

1. Darren McFadden
2. Jonathan Stewart
3. Ray Rice
4. Steve Slaton
5. Mike Hart

 

[BlackLantern]

then wouldn't Bob Sanders be better then all of them? (sorry, had to say it)

 

[Silver Knight]

The answer is yes, McFadden is a better prospect than Peterson. More Production in college, more speed, better overall athlete, lacks the major injury concern and while he is not the straight ahead everydown runner Peterson is - he is far more likely to bust the big play.

Have you been watching this season my friend?

How about last week agianst the bears?

 

[StorminNorman]

Of course he was going to be a bust. Vince Young still should have been #1 in that draft, though.

Yes, though I was against it at the time.

I still believed in Carr, and plus I though Young was a gamble - potential to flop or fly.

If I was a GM in that draft, my number 1 QB would of been Cutler.

 

[cookiva]

Peteys played 7 games and didnt look so hto against a good defense; you gotta atleast a full year before you determine if hes another cadillac or LT.

Dont you do that with Reggie Bush, though????

 

[cookiva]

Yes, though I was against it at the time.

I still believed in Carr, and plus I though Young was a gamble - potential to flop or fly.

If I was a GM in that draft, my number 1 QB would of been Cutler.

I believed in Carr. Did not believe in that line.

 

[StorminNorman]

Have you been watching this season my friend?

How about last week agianst the bears?

Yes I have been. Peterson is a great back. McFadden has the ability to be better.

 

[StorminNorman]

I believed in Carr. Did not believe in that line.

If Carr began his career with a great line - he could of flourished.

Instead he got shellshocked.

 

[Excel]

The answer is yes, McFadden is a better prospect than Peterson. More Production in college, more speed, better overall athlete, lacks the major injury concern and while he is not the straight ahead everydown runner Peterson is - he is far more likely to bust the big play.

Watch what i will do...and it will still make perfect sense...

The answer is yes, BUSH is a better prospect than Peterson. More Production in college, more speed, better overall athlete, lacks the major injury concern and while he is not the straight ahead everydown runner Peterson is - he is far more likely to bust the big play

As you have stated over and over again; Bush isnt going anywhere in the NFL so I dont know why you think McFadden will be so good. McFadden will be good; but Hart will have the biggest rookie year of any running back next year.

 

[Excel]

Dont you do that with Reggie Bush, though????

No; any time I brag I always mention hes only i nhis 2nd year and needs to keep building.

 

[StorminNorman]

1. Darren McFadden
2. Jonathan Stewart
3. Ray Rice
4. Steve Slaton
5. Mike Hart

I would have Hart number 2 easy.

 

[cookiva]

Watch what i will do...and it will still make perfect sense...

The answer is yes, BUSH is a better prospect than Peterson. More Production in college, more speed, better overall athlete, lacks the major injury concern and while he is not the straight ahead everydown runner Peterson is - he is far more likely to bust the big play

So you cant count on Bush every play????

 

[BlackLantern]

Bush needs to get away from the Saints if he wants to have a shot at a ring....

 

[Excel]

Bottom line; last weekend proved a good defense can totally contain McFadden; how you think itll be like when he gets to the NFL?

Even worse; if he goes top 5 his o-line will probably be crap

So you cant count on Bush every play????

Not at running back; he lines up slot all the time.

 

[Fran]

Mike Hart is in the top 3, Jake Long will make sure he gets 100-150 every game.

 

[StorminNorman]

Watch what i will do...and it will still make perfect sense...

The answer is yes, BUSH is a better prospect than Peterson. More Production in college, more speed, better overall athlete, lacks the major injury concern and while he is not the straight ahead everydown runner Peterson is - he is far more likely to bust the big play

As you have stated over and over again; Bush isnt going anywhere in the NFL so I dont know why you think McFadden will be so good. McFadden will be good; but Hart will have the biggest rookie year of any running back next year.

The difference is that McFadden has been an every down back in Arkansas. He has the ability to run it effectively and dominantly between the tackles - I think Peterson's size gives him the slight edge in that area - but McFadden still can do it, where Bush never showed that in college.

Bush was never a number one running back at USC - he was 1a. He was 1a in a Pac 10 that constantly have him play against weak defense after weak defense. On top of that USC was a team whose passing game was even more dominant that their running game.

McFadden is the bearer of load in Arkansas. He has no QB to throw the ball, to take away the 8 men in the box fronts - and yet still excels.

Thats the difference.

You would have to be blind not to see that.

 

[Silver Knight]

Bush needs to get away from the Saints if he wants to have a shot at a ring....

Wait, last time I checked the Saints were two wins away from a ring last season..

 

[cookiva]

Bottom line; last weekend proved a good defense can totally contain McFadden; how you think itll be like when he gets to the NFL?

Even worse; if he goes top 5 his o-line will probably be crap

And Bush proved that he is the same way. Oh wait, Bush ran against the falcons.

And McFadden got over 100 yds. Thats a bad game???

 

[cookiva]

You would have to be blind not to see that.

Excel is blind....

 

[BlackLantern]

Wait, last time I checked the Saints were two wins away from a ring last season..

and they wont be that close this season....the whole Katrina/rebuilding New Orleans/spirit of the town crap aside....the Saints will never be a Super Bowl contendor......

 

[Kaleb]

Im busy talking about Mike Hart here, most say he will go mid 2nd round.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=167364

 

[StorminNorman]

Bottom line; last weekend proved a good defense can totally contain McFadden; how you think itll be like when he gets to the NFL?

It didn't prove anything. A single bad game amongst a career of greatness does not lower the quality of the career.

McFadden put up 200 yards against a Nick Saban Alabama Defense.

McFadden also put up near the same amount against LSU's Defense last year.

Also, you keep forgetting to acknowledge the fact McFadden does this with no resemblance of a competent passing game.

 

[cookiva]

It doesnt even matter, Norman. Excel wont even budge.

 

[Excel]

Weak or not; you dont rack up 500 all purpose yards because youronly good and they are just really bad.

I don't think I have seen a college player with such great stats that was more suited for the NFL. Hart averaged 160 yards a game running it right up the gut; the NFL will have no change in style for him; just change in pace.

McFadden will have to change his style so he doesnt get killed while simultaneously having to adjust to the huge change of pace. Hart averaged 160 yards a game in college. Running the same way; how big of a difference will the better defense make? Assuming they are twice as good; hed be still doing 80 yards a game as rook...

 

[Silver Knight]

and they wont be that close this season....the whole Katrina/rebuilding New Orleans/spirit of the town crap aside....the Saints will never be a Super Bowl contendor......

The Saints will move to LA within 5 years.