The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - Part 12

[Travesty]

But why would they bother checking his dental records? If they find his blood in a mangled body in a crash, surely that'll be good enough for them. In movieland, anyway.

Because that wasn't Pavel, nor looked like him. When finding a match on a person, there are steps to take to identify a body, the first is fingerprints, the second is dental records(which may be the first if the victim is burned), and the very last being DNA/blood tests. Also, while testing blood samples for DNA, it's almost always common practice to make sure you get the same DNA results from other methods like swabs, hair, etc

And if his body was mangled at all, I'm certain dental records are going to be the #1 test, cause there could be a mix of blood, seeing as how there are multiple amounts of bodies on board the plane.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

I think the voice sound good but it need a little extra dark dubbing ala Darth Vader just without the breathing noise.

Fixed

 

[Anita18]

i agree, there was probably a better way to do it than a mid-air blood transfusion. i just can't think of one right now.

another thing, wouldn't everyone be killed by the plane doors being opened (and the plane being cut open)?

They weren't that high. Skydivers open their planes up all the time and don't die.

 

[EliteF50]

I think you guys are undermining the damage that'll be made to their bodies in that crash.

 

[TheDragonator]

Who's to say the decoy body didn't already have his teeth removed?

His mouth was closed throughout that entire scene.

Considering Pavel has teeth, I think that would be a stupid plan.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I can't wait to see what editors do with the trailer footage when it's official released. Looking forward to some cool fan trailers and edits!

If only the prologue was released online too. Just think of what fans could do with all that footage. The teaser, the trailer, and the prologue. Could really make for some cool fan trailers!

 

[craigdbfan]

Considering Pavel has teeth, I think that would be a stupid plan.

I was playing devils advocate.

Have some of you heard of something called "suspension of disbelief"?

Plus I think some are forgetting that Foley has been rumored to be CIA and is put within the ranks of GPD expecting Bane will head to Gotham.

So it's not like it wont be covered at least I think.

 

[Travesty]

Who's to say the decoy body didn't already have his teeth removed?

His mouth was closed throughout that entire scene.

Wait a minute, this body that has absolutely no teeth, and has a mix of two different blood types is 100% Pavel. No foul play here. Bane had nothing to do with this!

 

[Yurka]

Considering the absolute gory mess that will be the aftermath of that plane crash, just having some sort of evidence (blood) that Pavel was in there is enough.

 

[bullets]

I think if a splotch of Pavel's blood is found in the wreckage , they'll probably assume he was in there and dead.

 

[Sharkboy]

As flimsy as people think the transfusion plan is...at worse it will keep the CIA investigation stalled long enough so they can get Pavel to create this doomsday device without the agency breathing down their necks.

It certainly beats the CIA looking at the wreckage, finding one of their agents, and the manifest showing a terrorist missing plus a doctor, which would in turn make this a serious situation that would require their immediate attention and their resources in order to investigate and hunt down the LOS.

Instead they find all men accounted for, including a man with blood that matches Pavel, even if they were to figure what really happened it would take some time, enough time for Bane and his gang to get what they need.

This stuff really isn't hard if you have an imagination/common sense.

 

[Travesty]

This stuff really isn't hard if you have an imagination/common sense.

Imagination? maybe. Common sense? Absolutely not.

 

[bullets]

Thats a good point Sharkboy. Maybe this will actually be addressed more in the film.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

As with the initial viewing of the prologue for TDK, I was a little bit underwhelmed, albeit briefly. As it sunk in however, especially on the drive home, the prologue here for TDKR and the rest of the footage was really just enough to really get you amped up for the movie but at the same time, you don't have that feeling as if you've just been spoiled too much for yourself. If anything, it was a commercial for IMAX ticket sales...and they just sold me at least two tickets..

 

[バット人]

Instead they find all men accounted for, including a man with blood that matches Pavel,

Not if the CIA agent called in a flight plan that included EVERYONE, including Bane and his follower.

 

[Dr Zaius]

How do we even know they have Pavel's dental records? He isn't a us citizen and doesn't go to some american dentist that they have records that they can access.

 

[Sharkboy]

LOL! it really doesn't have to be, i'm already digging further into this than it has to be, it's so very very simple; terrorists do midair transfusion to cover their tracks and mislead the CIA, we aren't supposed to linger on that fact, all it's supposed to show us, is the methodical nature of Bane and his group. Just as the member who stayed presents their devotion to the audience. You are supposed to walk out of that scene thinking, these men are capable, resourceful, competent (enough to do a midair hijack/kidnap while covering their tracks) and most of all absolutely prepared to die for their cause. It's all designed to set up the opposing force of the story.

When you start complaining that the blood transfusion is absolutely useless and makes no sense, then you start criticizing and comparing the CIA's ability in a comic book movie to the real CIA, then you know not only have you failed to suspend your disbelief and take Nolan's plausible tone too seriously, but you are lingering way too much on a point that simply does not matter.

 

[Sharkboy]

double post.

 

[Sharkboy]

Not if the CIA agent called in a flight plan that included EVERYONE, including Bane and his follower.

He didn't, assuming it wasn't a bluff (and that's all they can really do) CIA dude, left out everyone but him, Pavel, his men, the pilots and one terrorist. That's all the information Bane has to work with. There was always the risk that he could have been lying.

 

[the Wankstar]

Geez just imagine if the transfusion part wasnt even in it, this thread would already be closed

 

[paladinryan]

LOL! it really doesn't have to be, i'm already digging further into this than it has to be, it's so very very simple; terrorists do midair transfusion to cover their tracks and mislead the CIA, we aren't supposed to linger on that fact, all it's supposed to show us, is the methodical nature of Bane and his group. Just as the member who stayed presents their devotion to the audience. You are supposed to walk out of that scene thinking, these men are capable, resourceful, competent (enough to do a midair hijack/kidnap while covering their tracks) and most of all absolutely prepared to die for their cause. It's all designed to set up the opposing force of the story.

When you start complaining that the blood transfusion is absolutely useless and makes no sense, then you start criticizing and comparing the CIA's ability in a comic book movie to the real CIA, then you know not only have you failed to suspend your disbelief and take Nolan's plausible tone too seriously, but you are lingering way too much on a point that simply does not matter.

 

[Sharkboy]

Geez just imagine if the transfusion part wasnt even in it, this thread would already be closed

LOL I know right.

I do love the transfusion part though, it really does look cool, makes it seem more of a calculated heist, rather than just a brutish hijacking.

 

[paladinryan]

The transfusion part might have something to do with later imagery and themes in the film (of resurrection for example). I think that would be the most important thing about it.

 

[Mariano]

Its just a film guys, lets not overthink this. Looks cool on screen and its a way to show some inteligence by the hijackers, but thats it. It wont work in a real scenario

If you have to do a reality check, let me tell you, in any wreckage like this, or accident of big magnitud, blood is the last thing in the list to do a dna test. Tissue, hair, teeth, nails, bones, are the most common subject to be analized.

Just my two cents

 

[Travesty]

When you start complaining that the blood transfusion is absolutely useless and makes no sense, then you start criticizing and comparing the CIA's ability in a comic book movie to the real CIA, then you know not only have you failed to suspend your disbelief and take Nolan's plausible tone too seriously, but you are lingering way too much on a point that simply does not matter.

Of course I know why they did it, it's just a stupid little plot point. But it's just as lame as The Joker shooting down the Batwing with one bullet. It has nothing to do with "taking Nolan's plausible world too seriously", it's just stating something that's completely ridiculous, and explaining why. And while I'm watching, of course I'll suspend my disbelief, but what the hell does that have to do with this conversation? You're just throwing in the towel, with nothing to back it up with.

If you explain in detail something that bugs you around here, you're taking yourself too seriously or whining. If you don't explain yourself enough, you're trolling.

I guess the only thing to do around here, is talk about what a genius Nolan is, and how his story is super tight?