The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - - Part 13

[Travesty]

Nolan as I've said many times before is a master magician. He can trick people into thinking that what he's showing you is incredibly realistic and accurate where rather he's using experimental or existing devices/tools and tuning up the level of fantasy by a good deal.

That's why when people say there isn't a fantasy element in these movies I can't help but laugh a little. There's a ton of fantasy it's just covered with a coat of deceptive realism (in a good way).

That's not fantasy, that's just a suspension of disbelief. While you can use a suspension of disbelief in many different genres(including fantasy), that doesn't mean it encompasses all of those elements. Having Two-Face with a burned side isn't technically fantasy, as I've seen many people with severe burns on their skin. It's plausible to live through that, but it most likely wouldn't happen(especially the eye), but that's where you're supposed to suspend your disbelief. Having a man made of clay that can shape shift and mold it's body into anything it wants is fantasy. That will never happen in the real world...ever. Everything that Nolan has presented in his Bat-movies is plausible, so it's just a matter of suspending your disbelief, not going into the realm of the unknown(fantasy).

 

[KalMart]

The better the movie, the more you're willing to 'buy'. Big part of that, though, is the balance of plausibility and how skilled the writer/filmmaker is at it.

 

[Bluesummers]

Unfortunately, every time I watch TDK, Two-Face's existence always makes me go, "Hmm." When he wipes the bit of alky off of his chin, it's super-bad-ass, but.....how? He should have hit the floor, screaming.

Everything else, though, totally believable.

 

[venus_ice]

Realism debate in 3...2...

 

[CelticPredator]

Wanna how to end it? Nolan's flicks aren't realistic. In any way at all. Period.

It's funny when people think they are.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Unfortunately, every time I watch TDK, Two-Face's existence always makes me go, "Hmm." When he wipes the bit of alky off of his chin, it's super-bad-ass, but.....how? He should have hit the floor, screaming.

Everything else, though, totally believable.

Do I have to get the creepy "It's only a movie" video again?

 

[CelticPredator]

Most Batfans think these films are real. And are actually a documentary.

 

[Sharkboy]

Most Batfans think these films are real. And are actually a documentary.

I wouldn't think most batfans go that far, but to deny that Nolan has steeped the visual aesthetic in a more probable and grounded world is kinda stupid. No matter how much you throw the whole "Nolanverse is not realistic" flag it's still grounded enough to a point where some of Batman's most fantastical elements won't fit.

Let's not completely ignore the tone and style here.

But then of course you have people like Bluesummers

 

[HighFivingMF]

Screw it. I wanna post it anyway.

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[CelticPredator]

There's a difference in grounded in reality, and realistic.

Minority Report is grounded in reality.

Saving Private Ryan is realistic.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Realistic perhaps, but not accurate...

 

[CelticPredator]

Well...it's a only a movie.

 

[Sharkboy]

There's a difference in grounded in reality, and realistic.

Minority Report is grounded in reality.

Saving Private Ryan is realistic.

Still I don't think most people legitimately think that this film is realistic, it's the people who think just because it's "grounded in reality" that it can still have elements like the lazurus pits or a venom pumped roided bane thats double the size of batman but can still outmaneuver him.

 

[BatSpider]

Talking about Bane's voice on Conan

Guess it is a big deal.

 

[craigdbfan]

That's not fantasy, that's just a suspension of disbelief. While you can use a suspension of disbelief in many different genres(including fantasy), that doesn't mean it encompasses all of those elements. Having Two-Face with a burned side isn't technically fantasy, as I've seen many people with severe burns on their skin. It's plausible to live through that, but it most likely wouldn't happen(especially the eye), but that's where you're supposed to suspend your disbelief. Having a man made of clay that can shape shift and mold it's body into anything it wants is fantasy. That will never happen in the real world...ever. Everything that Nolan has presented in his Bat-movies is plausible, so it's just a matter of suspending your disbelief, not going into the realm of the unknown(fantasy).

My use of fantasy is correct. I think your understanding of the definition is the problem here. You're limiting the word to this idea that it can only refer to high fantasy something many people do.

The genre is gigantic and every single Batman film despite where in the spectrum they fall can still be called fantasies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_subgenres

 

[Bats]

In terms of "reality", we're talking about nothing to do with the paranormal or supernatural. Things like Superman wouldn't exist in Nolan's world.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Talking about Bane's voice on Conan

Guess it is a big deal.

At least it's not Letterman.

 

[CelticPredator]

Superman is supernatural....and paranormal....

 

[lordofthenerds]

In terms of "reality", we're talking about nothing to do with the paranormal or supernatural. Things like Superman wouldn't exist in Nolan's world.

Superman's got a decent scientific explanation behind him. He's an alien. It's sci-fi.

 

[Pagan]

Superman's got a decent scientific explanation behind him. He's an alien. It's sci-fi.

I disagree. there's no sound scientific principle behind his powers.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I disagree. there's no sound scientific principle behind his powers.

I don't think we know enough about the Universe yet to put a limit on its possibilities. But that's just me.

 

[CelticPredator]

I disagree. there's no sound scientific principle behind his powers.

He's an Alien.

 

[KRIM]

I disagree. there's no sound scientific principle behind his powers.

There's dozens. Here's a good one.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I disagree. there's no sound scientific principle behind his powers.

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[venus_ice]

Talking about Bane's voice on Conan

Guess it is a big deal.

What did they say?