88th Annual Academy Awards

[DarthSkywalker]

How is it whining when pointing out the academies blatant bias and shining a light on there voting choices. Heck a reviewer here in DC said he heard a good amount of the academy voters hadnt even seen some of the films but voted them In because they heard they were good.

Because you came in here and ranted, without realizing you are contradicting yourself. Using your theory, "The Martian", "Fury Road" and "The Reverent" would not have been nominated. They were. Furthermore, have you seen "Brooklyn"? I think it is pretty great, and the idea that the size of a film should matter in terms of awards is ridiculous and makes your rant rather hypocritical.

 

[Supernova]

Straight Out of Compton is not that good. I like it, but it wasn't snubbed imo. Haven't seen Jobs yet.

By the way, not all Best Picture nominations are smaller, Indie films. Go look at the price tag for The Reverent, The Martian and Fury Road. You own argument is factually wrong.

im not even talking about price tags, Im talking about quality great billion dollar films getting some recognition. the revenant isnt a small indie film the director even said it was a big budget film himself so .....

My ideal nominations for best picture which is pointless to you probably is:

Mad max
The force awakens
Sicario
Steve jobs
Concussion
The revenant
The martian
Straight out of compton
Bridge of spies
The walk

Atleast my nominations will be remembered by the public 10 years from now

 

[Supernova]

Because you came in here and ranted, without realizing you are contradicting yourself. Using your theory, "The Martian", "Fury Road" and "The Reverent" would not have been nominated. They were. Furthermore, have you seen "Brooklyn"? I think it is pretty great, and the idea that the size of a film should matter in terms of awards is ridiculous and makes your rant rather hypocritical.

I didnt know sharing thoughts on here was considered ranting but ok if you say so.

Those 3 films are bigger budget films that made alot of money and are getting proper recognition as they should.

I Havent seen brooklyn nor do I plan to and have you seen steve jobs or the walk and plan too?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Nah and once again the generic transformers mention slips in. Not all great best pictures have to be smaller films/indies. No one can sit here and say Avatar deserved a best picture nod and awakens doesnt with a straight face.

Straight out of compton and steve jobs getting snubbed are also just other endless examples.

No, but I can say that neither deserves nomination purely for financial reasons.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

im not even talking about price tags, Im talking about quality great billion dollar films getting some recognition. the revenant isnt a small indie film the director even said it was a big budget film himself so .....

My ideal nominations for best picture which is pointless to you probably is:

Mad max
The force awakens
Sicario
Steve jobs
Concussion
The revenant
The martian
Straight out of compton
Bridge of spies
The walk

So recognize it for making a lot of money, that is what you are saying. We can talk quality all we want, but that is the idea of the awards. To award quality. Why does a price tag matter? And what in the world does that have to do with films like Brooklyn, which I am thinking you haven't seen.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I didnt know sharing thoughts on here was considered ranting but ok if you say so.

Those 3 films are bigger budget films that made alot of money and are getting proper recognition as they should.

I Havent seen brooklyn nor do I plan to and have you seen steve jobs or the walk and plan too?

I said I haven't seen Jobs. I want to see it. I love Boyle and Fassbender. Noticed how not having seen it, I didn't complain about it being nominated or not while taking shots at its humble box office?

No, but I can say that neither deserves nomination purely for financial reasons.

 

[Roose Bolton]

 

[Schlosser85]

A movie's box office gross certainly has nothing to do with its quality, as Transformers proves abundantly.

 

[Supernova]

So recognize it for making a lot of money, that is what you are saying. We can talk quality all we want, but that is the idea of the awards. To award quality. Why does a price tag matter? And what in the world does that have to do with films like Brooklyn, which I am thinking you haven't seen.

no and a bunch of my movies didn't make a S ton of cash but were still great films that also crossed barriers and also have a shot of being remembered and recognized 5 - 10 years from and still being watched and talked about.

I don't why a price tag matters you brought it up. I'm talking about great quality pictures that happen to make over a billion dollars getting recognized and not just grouped into "big dumb money makers". If a film like Awakens cant manage a nomination that was loved not just by fans around the world but CRITICS who vote as well then nothing will.

 

[Supernova]

A movie's box office gross certainly has nothing to do with its quality, as Transformers proves abundantly.

I'm not saying crap like transformers should lol

 

[DarthSkywalker]

no and a bunch of my movies didn't make a S ton of cash but were still great films that also crossed barriers and also have a shot of being remembered and recognized 5 - 10 years from and still being watched and talked about.

I don't why a price tag matters you brought it up. I'm talking about great quality pictures that happen to make over a billion dollars getting recognized and not just grouped into "big dumb money makers".

By price tag I mean gross here. Which you brought up. What the world does how much a movie made have to do with its quality and whether it deserves to be nominated for best picture?

Also, why did you bring up Brooklyn, which you haven't even watched?

I'm not saying crap like transformers should lol

Then why bring up gross at all?

 

[Supernova]

By price tag I mean gross here. Which you brought up. What the world does how much a movie made have to do with its quality and whether it deserves to be nominated for best picture?

Gross and price tag are completely different you know that right?

If a film has great quality and also makes billions of dollars it should get a nom just like a film does that makes 1 dollar.

Also, why did you bring up Brooklyn, which you haven't even watched?

Because it was nominated and is the typical nom we see every year from the academy also known as Oscar bait films which is the constant stigma the academy has had that came to light back when saving private Ryan lost to Shakespeare in love and has continued since. I don't have to see a film to know Ill be bored to tears with it, I reserve the right to pick movies that I have interest in seeing or connect to on some level with previews, research etc. I have seen all the movies this year that are getting noms except for the room and Brooklyn because of what I said above. according to new rumors and critics coming forward neither has some of the voters in the academy themselves.

Then why bring up gross at all?

Just because a film makes a lot of money doesn't mean it should automatically be not considered to seriously win a best picture nom if the quality is truly there.

 

[Schlosser85]

Just because a film makes a lot of money doesn't mean it should automatically be not considered to seriously win a best picture nom if the quality is truly there.

Who said that in the first place?

 

[Fallen Angel]

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[Supernova]

Who said that in the first place?

The academy with its track record lol, history tells the story. The dark knight 2008 was snubbed and that film was a masterpiece crime story of escalation that just happened to have batman and the joker in it.

 

[Schlosser85]

I think that had more to do with their snobbery toward comic book movies.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Gross and price tag are completely different you know that right?

If a film has great quality and also makes billions of dollars it should get a nom just like a film does that makes 1 dollar.

I wrote the wrong phrase. Sorry, I am multi-tasking.

Because it was nominated and is the typical nom we see every year from the academy also known as Oscar bait films which is the constant stigma the academy has had that came to light back when saving private Ryan lost to Shakespeare in love and has continued since. I don't have to see a film to know Ill be bored to tears with it, I reserve the right to pick movies that I have interest in seeing or connect to on some level with previews, research etc. I have seen all the movies this year that are getting noms except for the room and Brooklyn because of what I said above. according to new rumors and critics coming forward neither has some of the voters in the academy themselves.

You haven't watched it. You have no idea what the movie is. God, this is some ridiculous BS. You find something boring, that is your thing. That doesn't make it any less of a film to the rest of the world, or in this case Academy voters.

This right here is why I called your "argument" a rant. "I don't like those kind of movies, so they shouldn't be nominated. Nominate stuff I like because I like it". Ridiculous and yes you are whining.

Just because a film makes a lot of money doesn't mean it should automatically be not considered to seriously win a best picture nom if the quality is truly there.

And since when has this been a problem? Because Avatar, Toy Story 3, Inception, all the LotR films, the original Star Wars were all nominated. ET was nominated. The original "blockbuster" Gone with the Wind won. RotK won. Titanic won.

You literally made up an argument.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The academy with its track record lol, history tells the story. The dark knight 2008 was snubbed and that film was a masterpiece crime story of escalation that just happened to have batman and the joker in it.

I love TDK. Think it should have won best picture. Does that make it law?

I think that had more to do with their snobbery toward comic book movies.

They don't like Nolan. They just don't. No different then Scorsese who couldn't find a win. I can't think of any other typical comic book movie that would have deserved a nomination. Scott Pilgrim isn't typical and I would have never expected it.

 

[Schlosser85]

Inception was nominated for Best Picture

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Inception was nominated for Best Picture

Yep, but Nolan wasn't nominated for his direction I believe. And when it comes to a movie like that, direction is a rather big deal imo.

 

[Schlosser85]

I always find it weird how you can justify nominating a movie for Best Picture but not the director for Best Director.

Don't they go hand-in-hand? Like Ridley Scott and The Martian right now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I always find it weird how you can justify nominating a movie for Best Picture but not the director for Best Director.

Don't they go hand-in-hand? Like Ridley Scott and The Martian right now.

Things have changed since the BP expansion. Only 5 directors but up to 10 potential BP nominations. Way I saw it with Inception was they wanted to nominate it for the publicity, but it never had a chance to win. If your director isn't nominated, no chance at BP.

 

[Supernova]

This right here is why I called your "argument" a rant. "I don't like those kind of movies, so they shouldn't be nominated. Nominate stuff I like because I like it". Ridiculous and yes you are whining.

an opinion that differs from yours is not whining it is an opinion, thinking certain things should be nominated is not whining. you can label it whatever you heart desires.

And since when has this been a problem? Because Avatar, Toy Story 3, Inception, all the LotR films, the original Star Wars were all nominated. ET was nominated. The original "blockbuster" Gone with the Wind won. RotK won. Titanic won.

You literally made up an argument.

2 blockbuster films won since 96 and that's ok with you? ok....

 

[DarthSkywalker]

an opinion that differs from yours is not whining it is an opinion, thinking certain things should be nominated is not whining. you can label it whatever you heart desires.

It is whining because you made up a problem that doesn't exist because you wanted a movie nominated.

2 blockbuster films won since 96 and that's ok with you? ok....

If it was my vote, neither of those films would have won. The worst LotR film that came out the same year as "Lost in Translation" and while I like "Titanic", I would take all 4 other nominees over it. But it wasn't my decision. The best film of the year should win. Doesn't matter how much money it makes or not. Other then TDK Wall-E and the Incredibles, can't think of one of those blockbusters that wasn't nominated that really deserved it that wasn't nominated. So no, no problem.

 

[Supernova]

It is whining because you made up a problem that doesn't exist because you wanted a movie nominated.


If it was my vote, neither of those films would have won. The worst LotR film that came out the same year as "Lost in Translation" and while I like "Titanic", I would take all 4 other nominees over it. But it wasn't my decision. The best film of the year should win. Doesn't matter how much money it makes or not. Other then TDK Wall-E and the Incredibles, can't think of one of those blockbusters that wasn't nominated that really deserved it that wasn't nominated. So no, no problem.

sounds like your a huge Pixar fan as I am, does it bother you the academy looks at them as simply animated kids films and shouldn't be best pictures potentially? Same as how Andy Serkis never gets nominated because its seen as computers helping his performance? The academy is out of touch with the times bottom line.