95th Annual Academy Awards

[Kane52630]

An update on the awards schedule


February 2023
Feb. 13: Oscar nominees luncheon
Feb. 18: DGA Awards ceremony
Feb. 19: BAFTA Awards ceremony
Feb. 25: Annie Awards ceremony
Feb. 25: PGA Awards ceremony
Feb. 26: SAG Awards ceremony


March 2023
March 2: Oscars final voting begins
March 4: Film Independent Spirit Awards ceremony
March 7: Oscars final voting ends
March 12: 95th Academy Awards ceremony

 

[NotNickFury]

None of which will be funny.

I'm still livid that they're having Kimmel host. The dude has an annual tradition of mocking the nominees as "boring movies that nobody saw." Just last year he was a huge pusher of the "No Way Home should be Best Picture" nonsense. I'm so, SO tired of the Academy refusing to simply celebrate the art instead of acting embarrassed of their own choices.

If they only celebrated the art, the Oscars would only be five minutes long.

Which isn't a bad idea, really.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The NWH push was so annoying and it was clear their only reason for it was pure nostalgia.

I would argue the same of Top Gun Maverick

 

[Kane52630]

I totally agree it's nothing but a bigger remake of the first movie, but I understand Maverick getting notice for the technical awards.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I totally agree it's nothing but a bigger remake of the first movie, but I understand Maverick getting notice for the technical awards.

Sure, but we have technical awards for those things. We also nominated Avatar 2 for the same reasons. Top Gun getting a Screenplay nomination just baffles me.

 

[Kane52630]

Yeah Top Gun getting a screenplay nomination is still wild to me and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about how ridiculous that is. At least with Andrea Riseborough, she gave a Oscar bait performance, Top Gun's screenplay is basically CTRL + C of the first movie.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I would argue the same of Top Gun Maverick

Maverick definitely has more going for it than nostalgia. Is it innovative in its story? No. But it's a technical masterpiece that bought in a whole new generation of fans that weren't even particuarily aware of the original. NWH's push was pretty purely "I thought it was cool and it made the most money so it should be the best movie."

If they only celebrated the art, the Oscars would only be five minutes long.

Which isn't a bad idea, really.

If you don't think these movies are art and worth celebrating, why are you here, I guess is my question?

The show should be focused on highlighting the accomplishments of the artists and celebrating their work and its place in the history of film. Instead they keep trying to cut time and appeal to people who don't even like the movies, which is pointless and insulting to the artists AND the fans.

 

[NotNickFury]

That's what I'm saying. Reward the winners and have stuff like the In Memoriam, and then call it a night. Don't have some extended sketch or song and dance at the beginning or have actors suddenly walk on stage for a bit like it's an SNL sketch. It's not worth anyone's time.

 

[Kane52630]

According to Matt Belloni's pod, they got the producers who produced the Emmys this time around. So hopefully we are getting a straightforward awards show because last years and the covid Oscars were so awfully put together.

 

[CaptainWagner]

That's what I'm saying. Reward the winners and have stuff like the In Memoriam, and then call it a night. Don't have some extended sketch or song and dance at the beginning or have actors suddenly walk on stage for a bit like it's an SNL sketch. It's not worth anyone's time.

I mean, the most obvious issue is the people who are there want to be entertained. It's the biggest event of the year for the industry, I've never understood why some people want some sort of bare-bones, skeleton itinerary rushing through the night. At the very least you need performances of the nominated music and clips of the nominated performances and films. Other tributes and bits of spectacle add to the fun.

I do agree the lame comedy bits are dumb - but the lame ones are lame because they're poorly written and have nothing to do with anything else that's going on. Which is why you need producers and hosts that love cinema and will cater to the audience and the actual fans at home, not trying to chase nebulous GA viewers who are never coming back.

 

[Drizzle]

According to Matt Belloni's pod, they got the producers who produced the Emmys this time around. So hopefully we are getting a straightforward awards show because last years and the covid Oscars were so awfully put together.

Last year's was boring apart from the you-know-what incident but for the 2021 ceremony whoever had the idea to save Best Actor for last because they were so sure that Chadwick Boseman would win only for Anthony Hopkins to come in with the upset while he was sleeping should be shunned from Hollywood.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Maverick definitely has more going for it than nostalgia. Is it innovative in its story? No. But it's a technical masterpiece that bought in a whole new generation of fans that weren't even particuarily aware of the original. NWH's push was pretty purely "I thought it was cool and it made the most money so it should be the best movie."

If you don't think these movies are art and worth celebrating, why are you here, I guess is my question?

The show should be focused on highlighting the accomplishments of the artists and celebrating their work and its place in the history of film. Instead they keep trying to cut time and appeal to people who don't even like the movies, which is pointless and insulting to the artists AND the fans.

Making fans aware of the first movie is meaningless. Newer fans of the Spider-Man IP may not have watched the older ones, so same argument would apply to NWH. As for it being a technical masterpiece, plenty of huge leaps in technology had no nominations for the major awards. If that's what counted, why didn't Jurassic Park get one in the 90s?

I didn't hate Top Gun Maverick by any means. But Best Picture nominee, I am sorry I don't see it being any stronger than Spider-Man: No Way Home was.

 

[Prison Mike]

They definitely need to lower the BP nominees from 10 back down to 5. Especially if the other categories have only 5 nominees too.

 

[Drizzle]

They definitely need to lower the BP nominees from 10 back down to 5. Especially if the other categories have only 5 nominees too.

I agree. It was only done to appease people after the uproar over TDK being snubbed. The Academy has never admitted this but we all know that's why, especially with the rule change happening the very next year.

 

[CaptainWagner]

They definitely need to lower the BP nominees from 10 back down to 5. Especially if the other categories have only 5 nominees too.

Absolutely not. This was the best thing the Academy did in ages. Sure, we still get some big snubs and some egregious contestants get in, but I do believe it's worked decently well at getting a broader variety of movies nominated. In fact, at least three winners - Shape of Water, Moonlight and Parasite - I don't think would have even been NOMINATED in the 5-slot system.

And let's not forget - 10 BP noms isn't new. That was the standard from the 5th ceremony in '32 until '43.

 

[Enriquespy]

I like 10 noms.

 

[antsman41]

 

[samsnee]

As long as we don’t get stupid bits like bringing in regular people in from the street. Those are always cringe than funny.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Just finished Trianlge of Sadness. Not sure what I expected from this movie, but it wasn't this. This was mad in a way I enjoyed. Might be my 2nd favorite of the nominees even. Thoroughly entertaining and just all around very good

 

[samsnee]

Good read
How The Academy Awards, and Their Iconic Oscar, Came To Be - Variety

 

[metaphysician]

If they only celebrated the art, the Oscars would only be five minutes long.

Which isn't a bad idea, really.

But then how would Hollywood pat itself on the back for making Oscar-bait schlock? *ahem*

 

[CaptainWagner]

But then how would Hollywood pat itself on the back for making Oscar-bait schlock? *ahem*

I will never understand these takes. This is an industry award show. They exist in every industry to award the work done by the respective workers of that field. But no one broadcasts the National Insurance Sales Awards because nobody knows those people or their work. People DO know the Oscar nominees and their work, so they tune in. Yet you always have comments complaining about Hollywood "patting themselves on the back" at the Oscars as if that isn't the entire point of it or ANY awards show.

Also - there's only, like, two BP nominees this year that could be considered Oscar Bait, and The Fabelmans is pretty great and even Elvis has enough Baz-style to make it exempt, IMO.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Saw All Quiet on the Western Front. It's what I expected it would be. Now just gotta see Women Talking. EEAAO and ToS are still my number 1 and 2 respectively of the 9 I saw

 

[Kane52630]

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[scarlet-witch]

I love the 10 nominees for Best Picture personally. It gives smaller films a shot at the top price too. I'm glad they finally made them choose 10 again instead of "up to" 10.

The only Best Picture nominee I haven't seen yet at this point is Avatar. I really don't want to give it theater money so I'm waiting for Disney Plus, but now I'm not so sure it will hit there before the ceremony. Might have to bite the bullet.