Rate and review The Fantastic 4: First Steps

Just got back . Really underwhelming to be honest . 6 out of 10 I give it. Like a lot of movies these days . It felt very underdeveloped to me. A good movie in there somewhere, just seems to be a lack of great filmmakers nowadays. Cannot make a genuinely great movie .
 
Just got back . Really underwhelming to be honest . 6 out of 10 I give it. Like a lot of movies these days . It felt very underdeveloped to me. A good movie in there somewhere, just seems to be a lack of great filmmakers nowadays. Cannot make a genuinely great movie .
 
I saw it today. I loved every scene with Galactus. A dream come true. But aside from that, this movie was boring. It was too formulaic. I felt like I'd seen this movie a hundred times. It's always the same plot over and over again. No creativity
 
Saw it last Tuesday and am planning to go again this Tuesday. I saw it in 3D/XD (Cinemark) and am glad I did. I think it really added to the visual spectacle (for me anyway). I've been waiting, literally, decades for a FF movie like this, so my view is probably slanted (along with me being a really S***TTY critic).

I was having so much fun watching it and so I was completely unaware of any problems with the editing until I started reading some posts from people who are able to evaluate a movie with more objectivity than I can. It absolutely would have benefited from a little more filling in at certain points in the movie. In particular the news type coverage of their past exploits and Sue's speech. I thought Vanessa Kirby was terrific and her character was the bedrock of the movie.

This was, by far, superior to anything attempted in the past and I give it an 8+/10.
 
I give it a 7.5--maybe a shaky 8....

Maybe I was expecting to much. I always thought the coming of Galactus would be an earth shattering epic/event of biblical proportions. This felt small and intimate....which I guess is what they were going for?......... I did enjoy it for what it was.

I get it, every movie doesn't have to be an epic masterpiece, but its fricken Galactus, the devourer of worlds, the eater of planets.

I really hope superhero movie fatigue is not a thing, because Marvel and DC will have no one to blame but themselves for putting out average to above average films for a long period of time.

OT: Is there a lack of talent available to do these types of films? I remember fantasizing about the likes of Spielberg, Lucas, Jackson, Zemeckis, etc. doing these types of films. It feels like there is very little director talent out there that knows these properties and can do them justice. We got lucky with the Russos and to some degree Snyder and Whedon.
 
I had a great time with it personally. Definitely, the best film version to date of the characters.

There is clearly a longer cut to the film 'out there' and be interesting to see if we ever get it.

It felt like a 'family drama' and that was a good approach and the retro visuals worked.

The most 'important' aspect of it, for me, was it felt like Phase 1 again, and a return to Endgame level passion & emotion, which has been diluted ever since 2019.
 
I give it a 7.5--maybe a shaky 8....

Maybe I was expecting to much. I always thought the coming of Galactus would be an earth shattering epic/event of biblical proportions. This felt small and intimate....which I guess is what they were going for?......... I did enjoy it for what it was.

I get it, every movie doesn't have to be an epic masterpiece, but its fricken Galactus, the devourer of worlds, the eater of planets.

I really hope superhero movie fatigue is not a thing, because Marvel and DC will have no one to blame but themselves for putting out average to above average films for a long period of time.

OT: Is there a lack of talent available to do these types of films? I remember fantasizing about the likes of Spielberg, Lucas, Jackson, Zemeckis, etc. doing these types of films. It feels like there is very little director talent out there that knows these properties and can do them justice. We got lucky with the Russos and to some degree Snyder and Whedon.
I don’t usually buy movies on physical discs anymore but if they release the extended cut on Blu-ray I might end up buying it if it is justifiably longer say 30 minutes minimum
 
Honestly, its like Marvel went into this with the mentality that all they had to do was not make Galactus a space cloud and everyone would love it because the bar for live action FF movies was so low that it was practically underground. Marvel Studios won by default, because they did the bare minimum.

Hollywood only seems to know two Fantastic Four movies that they know how to make. The origin story for the team, with Doctor Doom as the main villain, and Galactus and the Silver Surfer being introduced in the sequel. They didn't want to tell the FF's origin again (although they do in a opening montage) , so they defaulted to the only one other FF story they know. God ****ing forbid we actually mine the IP and tell other stories in the FF universe.

The most interesting conflict is Galactus being willing to spare earth in exchange for Franklin, which turns the city of New York against the FF for about five minutes before Sue Storm puts an end to it with a speech. Whew! The movie almost had an interesting and complex problem for our heroes to solve. Can't have that!

Why couldn't we just have the Fantastic Four save the world at the cost of their popularity? Like maybe they stop Galactus, but people died that otherwise would've been saved if the FF had just handed their son over. Given that the FF are known for being the celebrity superhero team, and in this movie Sue Storm is a diplomat and the Future Foundation practically runs the world, the FF's goodwill is something very important to them, so losing that or having to take a big hit on that would be an interesting story to tell. But that would require the heroes of the movie to lose something? Sacrifice something? Speaking of civilian casualties, I know Man Of Steel scared the big studios and now every time we get a big battle in a big city we have to bend over backwards to show them being evacuated, but can we move past this now? Avengers had a third act where citizens clearly died. Even Age Of Ultron had fallout that lead to Civil War. That was fine. No one complained about that. Having our heroes fighting Galactus in an empty city just doesn't create a lot of tension or excitement but maybe I am wrong?
 
I give it an 8. I loved how it had a 1960's look. I grew up in those years, so it was like being back in my childhood reading the early FF comics with the things that surrounded me being on the screen. I liked all the Easter eggs (particularly the one with Jack Kirby) and think they did a damn fine job with Galactus. It was a fun adventure and I look forward to them coming into the MCU universe.
 
As an old school Marvel fan watching this, I give it a 3. You cannot expect FF fans beyond a certain age (especially those with scratch, comic collectors, long time fans of the characters and those not getting special treatment from Marvel to gas this film up) to accept what was done.
What is the reason Pascal wouldn't shave? Why the FU to over 60 years of fans and mythology?
Why did they choose the female Silver Surfer character? It added nothing and killed that character dead for future projects. I loved Ozarks, but at no point did I (did anyone?) ever say,"gee, Ruthie would make a great Silver Surfer"
None of the FF had any background developed other than : Mr F and IW are having a baby and Johnny is Sue's brother. How/why are they astronauts? How do they know how to fly whatever they are flying...cause its never explained to us. Who is Reed Richards other than a TV spoof for audience chuckles?
Johnny and Thing are just mellow guys?
4 years later? And Franklin is just living a normal life after some god insisted he would spare earth for him?
No other super being or human tried to kidnap Franklin? The President/UN doesn't weigh in?
Why bother having a post scene credit that adds nothing other than try to tie to talent the audience once went hoss for (RDJ).
What was the best part of Thunderbolts for? That was a bs tease for this.
Sorry. Marvel needs fresh blood BTS.
They have Spider-Man, Deadpool and Wolverine(for now) left. I have no faith in what the X-Men is gonna be (esp after FF) other than they will involve story lines and characters that are not historically associated with the X-Men.
Sorry, this movie didn't suck but was a real let down
 
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As an old school Marvel fan watching this, I give it a 3. You cannot expect FF fans beyond a certain age (especially those with scratch, comic collectors, long time fans of the characters and those not getting special treatment from Marvel to gas this film up) to accept what was done.
What is the reason Pascal wouldn't shave? Why the FU to over 60 years of fans and mythology?
Why did they choose the female Silver Surfer character? It added nothing and killed that character dead for future projects. I loved Ozarks, but at no point did I (did anyone?) ever say,"gee, Ruthie would make a great Silver Surfer"
None of the FF had any background developed other than : Mr F and IW are having a baby and Johnny is Sue's brother. How/why are they astronauts? How do they know how to fly whatever they are flying...cause its never explained to us. Who is Reed Richards other than a TV spoof for audience chuckles?
Johnny and Thing are just mellow guys?
4 years later? And Franklin is just living a normal life after some god insisted he would spare earth for him?
No other super being or human tried to kidnap Franklin? The President/UN doesn't weigh in?
Why bother having a post scene credit that adds nothing other than try to tie to talent the audience once went hoss for (RDJ).
What was the best part of Thunderbolts for? That was a bs tease for this.
Sorry. Marvel needs fresh blood BTS.
They have Spider-Man, Deadpool and Wolverine(for now) left. I have no faith in what the X-Men is gonna be (esp after FF) other than they will involve story lines and characters that are not historically associated with the X-Men.
Sorry, this movie didn't suck but was a real let down
I don't disagree with a lot of this, but that bold bit.

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The obsession with the facial hair is just weird to me. Dude has a mustache. Okay, and? How does a mustache fundamentally change the character? It's a stupid obsession
 
I am not "obsessed" about it, but I would've preferred that they shaved that mustache off. Not my favorite look for Reed at all.
 
I am not "obsessed" about it, but I would've preferred that they shaved that mustache off. Not my favorite look for Reed at all.
But people are acting like it's a core problem with the movie. I am sorry, but that's not. It's a nitpick type thing, and shaving Reed's face doesn't suddenly change the script, art direction, etc. It's a stupid thing to be so lazer focused on
 
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