The Dark Knight Rises Adapting Robin

[Ronny Shade]

They should change his name to Mark Grayson and give him superpowers and his dad should be from another planet!

 

[BlueLightning]

Where the hell does that even come from, anyways? DJ, what's the J stand for?

On the other hand, it's the CW, which means it's aimed at a crowd immature enough to laugh at the name Dick.

His name is Richard John Grayson.

Oh and by the way Gianakin, Gough and Millar were the reason Smallville was good, the last they only served as producers, and they left last season, which was in my opinion, the worst.

 

[Savage]

I'm pretty sure the Batman 66 movie was released after the first series of the TV show.

Well damn. That pokes a hole in that.

I still think that they can pull off a tv series if they tried to do something besides teen dramas (again, Supernatural and Smackdown being the two exceptions. Smackdowns back on the My network and Supernatural just may be a gonner for no reason).

 

[BlueLightning]

Robin The Boy Wonder

Not a fan of family guy, not very funny, but I am bored.

 

[Gianakin_]

People will love what they're told to love, just like many did with SMALLVILLE.

There were things that could be done with Clark's Smallville years. Clark already had a heritage- since he was born.
Even so, 8 years is pushing it and it's essentially Metropolis now, not Smallville.
With Grayson, there is nothing that could be done with a family that works in a circus and travels around. Nothing interesting, I mean.

That's the nature of superheroes and comic book characters, though, isn't it? Finding adventure at every turn?

Yes, depending on the hero and character. Dick Grayson's past to become a series of adventures sounds extremely bad.
Either you get an eleven year old that gets in trouble (wow, SO much potential), or they will start changing things significantly to the point where the guy will probably not need Batman to become Robin. Grayson doesn't need the Smallville treatment, he needs to be left alone until his parents get killed.

And MERCY REEF was just...awful.

Eh, LDP was in it, what were you expecting? I did enjoy it, though. Mostly because of Hartley and Rames. They were starting to develop some good chemistry together.

 

[Gianakin_]

Oh and by the way Gianakin, Gough and Millar were the reason Smallville was good, the last they only served as producers, and they left last season, which was in my opinion, the worst.

They did good stuff with Smallville, but they also made some very unimaginative, continuity-hurting and nonsensical decisions. They're like the Highlander producers, fought for the show, had heart, but lacked the necessary talent.

Case in point, the moment they left, the show has become aces again. Episodes 1 and 2 of this season were fantastic and the 3rd looks great as well (imo, of course).

Season 7 was problematic but I enjoyed it because it continued being a Superman more than an origin show (something that started from season 6).

 

[The Guard]

With Grayson, there is nothing that could be done with a family that works in a circus and travels around. Nothing interesting, I mean.

Are you serious? This is a circus that travels around the DC Universe...and you're saying there's nothing interesting that can be done with that concept?

Yes, depending on the hero and character. Dick Grayson's past to become a series of adventures sounds extremely bad.

Why? What's inherently bad about it?

Either you get an eleven year old that gets in trouble (wow, SO much potential)

Interesting outlook. But it has any more potential when this 11-12 year old is a superhero in the comics?

That said, it's fairly obvious THE GRAYSONS will not be portraying Robin as an 11 year old.

or they will start changing things significantly to the point where the guy will probably not need Batman to become Robin.

He will always need Batman's guidance, resources, and knowledge to becomea superhero. That doesn't mean he can't be portrayed as a capable fellow in his own right before he meets Batman. He was in the comics.

 

[Crook]

I can't be so optimistic about this concept. There ARE good stories to tell of Dick before he takes on the mantle, but there are hardly enough to tell entire seasons worth of stories, which is exactly where the CW is going to take this. Even worse, is they'll probably draw it out as long as they can without Batman and his parents' death, thereby ensuring plenty of filler material. If SV is any indication, they'll probably even consider Dick meeting every damn character in the DC universe, screwing up another timeline.

 

[BlueLightning]

They did good stuff with Smallville, but they also made some very unimaginative, continuity-hurting and nonsensical decisions. They're like the Highlander producers, fought for the show, had heart, but lacked the necessary talent.

Case in point, the moment they left, the show has become aces again. Episodes 1 and 2 of this season were fantastic and the 3rd looks great as well (imo, of course).

Season 7 was problematic but I enjoyed it because it continued being a Superman more than an origin show (something that started from season 6).

Just to end this little debate and not get off topic. I still think Gough and Millar were one of the main reason the show was good. Yeah they messe continuity, but every episode written by them was very good.

I cannot talk about current season, they still don´t broadcast it here, but I am glad to hear that this new season looks promising. Thank you for give me hopes without spoiler me up.

 

[Gianakin_]

Are you serious? This is a circus that travels around the DC Universe...and you're saying there's nothing interesting that can be done with that concept?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. When the hero of the show can't interest me, I don't care if he meets Darkseid.

Why? What's inherently bad about it?

It's that the life of Dick Grayson before he became Robin does not appeal to me at all. I don't give a s**t about his adventures before and from some point on it changes the character too much. So, when he becomes Robin, things won't be the same (and I mean that in a bad way).

Interesting outlook. But it has any more potential when this 11-12 year old is a superhero in the comics?

Yes, it does. WHEN he is the superhero. Not before.

That said, it's fairly obvious THE GRAYSONS will not be portraying Robin as an 11 year old.

So Robin at age 20. Considering that they start him off at 15 and the show lasts 6 seasons... hmmm, it could work out for them. If only I liked the premise...

He will always need Batman's guidance, resources, and knowledge to becomea superhero. That doesn't mean he can't be portrayed as a capable fellow in his own right before he meets Batman. He was in the comics.

To keep the show interesting, they'll have to make him something more than a "capable fellow". Something that will obviously border him being a superhero at some point. Works with Kent, doesn't work with Grayson.

 

[margon]

Hey Guard congragulations on being right, once again.

even the clever posters are being surpisingly narrow minded and pessimistic about this

 

[Saint]

The concept has potential, but it will not be met. Smallville is the model, and Smallville is garbage, so the model is garbage. The product can reasonably be expected to be garbage.

 

[Gianakin_]

even the clever posters are being surpisingly narrow minded and pessimistic about this

I'd be surprised with clever viewers being surprisingly optimistic and watching that kind of show.

 

[Gianakin_]

The concept has potential, but it will not be met. Smallville is the model, and Smallville is garbage, so the model is garbage. The product can reasonably be expected to be garbage.

I'd argue that the premise of the show is still great. It was its execution that's responsible for its shortcomings.

The thing is, Kent had a legacy since Krypton was destroyed. Grayson is a random boy that loses his parents. AFTER that, he becomes important (enough for a TV show anyway, I believe there are a couple of stories to say about his pre-Robin days). Just like Wayne, actually.

 

[Darkknight14]

I'm not sure about the Grayson's. Hard to catch people's attention with a show about a boy in his pre-teens. And if he's not a pre-teen...so much for continuity. Regardless, I would love to see Robin done properly in a movie someday. I hope someone can make it happen. There have been some cool ideas on here, some that could work, some that are ridiculous. But Robin deserves it. He's one of the longest standing characters in DC comics history...he definitely deserves it.

 

[ThePheonix22]

^^^
Good point.Robin CAN be brought back.

Fans:"HEY CHRIS O'DONNELL!!"
Chris:WHAT???
Fans;"THEYVE MADE A BETTER ROBIN WITHOUT YOU!!!!"


^_^

 

[04nbod]

Chris O' Donnell was the only reason to watch batman forever and batman and robin (although he couldn't save that)

 

[Katsuro]

Robin is awesome, but this "The Graysons" idea is ****. Seriously? It's about as bad as that idea of a Star Wars prequel about Luke's life on Tatooine.

I honestly cant even imagine what kind of plot outline they have for this. I cannot fathom how they could come up with more than a couple episodes about this before it gets ridiculous. Are they gonna drag it out like Smallville, where in 8 years we'll have a Dick Grayson whose parents are dead, lives and fights crime with Bruce Wayne, but just wont put on a costume and call himself Robin? And along they way they'll have a thousand *wink, wink* *nudge, nudge* joke references. I almost vomitted during Smallville the other week when someone was like "you should wear a costume Clark, something more form-fitting." BLARRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Smallville would be a lot better if they just had him become Superman already. That show's already covered so much mythology, and had Clark fight some of his biggest villains, without even donning the suit yet. Who's going to be left to fight when he finally does? Apparently, they're doing Doomsday this season. How the hell do you do Death of Superman before you even have Superman?

 

[SouLeSS]

Honestly, who gives a **** about Dick Grayson pre-Bruce Wayne intervention.

 

[Zephyr Alexian]

Robin is awesome, but this "The Graysons" idea is ****. Seriously? It's about as bad as that idea of a Star Wars prequel about Luke's life on Tatooine.

lol, that's one way to look at it.


I don't like the concept because it seems like a 'Seventh Heaven' or 'Everwood' type of family drama . . . only WITH ROBIN.

Lame.

I predict a swift cancellation and a move to ABC family channel to finish out the run of episodes.

 

[Gianakin_]

I predict a swift cancellation and a move to ABC family channel to finish out the run of episodes.

You're being optimistic. If it gets past the pilot, then the CW should seriously pull their s**t together.

They'd better offer the money they'd use for the pilot to bring Rosenbaum back as Lex Luthor and make a Superman show, sequel to Smallville. They already have a great Superman in their hands.

 

[CaptainClown]

actually I have to agree, I think they should venture into a superman show and really explore the rise of Lex Luthor and just other aspects of Superman. though I haven't seen the series so I have no idea ho wits going.

 

[Crook]

Wow. I hate both of you now.

 

[Gianakin_]

Now now, I'm sure the seeds of hatred were there, ever since you saw my user title.

 

[Savage]

actually I have to agree, I think they should venture into a superman show and really explore the rise of Lex Luthor and just other aspects of Superman. though I haven't seen the series so I have no idea ho wits going.

I actually like that. It's more than just Superman's origin we're dealing with here after all.