Advice and Relationships Again: A Hypester's Tale

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So...what's the deal with people that like Sado Masochistic Bondage abuse? For the love of God I just cannot fathom why anyone would think that hurting another person they claim to care about is showing them love. Now I'm talking about something personal here and I don't keep it a secret that I was physically abused and it was not fun and it was not what I consider showing someone how much they love you. If it's an adrenaline thing I've listened to music that has made me feel much more positive adrenaline rushes, like certain battle themes from the Monster Hunter games. In my opinion though anyone that likes this stuff I think needs intensive therapy because bruises and scars are not indicative of love but self hatred and hatred of others if you derive pleasure from seeing others suffer. It makes me believe that person has a very damaged psyche that needs help before they hurt an innocent person that did not want to participate in their unhealthy fixations.
 
I know lots of people who like S&M who weren't abused when they are younger.

I understand you being abused would make you skeptical but there are varying degrees. I've known of some girls who like to get hit and others who like some light bondage play.

Doesn't mean that the people involved are trying to "hurt" them or that it's unhealthy.
 
I don't care if this is personal but have you had sex? :huh:
 
I know lots of people who like S&M who weren't abused when they are younger.

I understand you being abused would make you skeptical but there are varying degrees. I've known of some girls who like to get hit and others who like some light bondage play.

Doesn't mean that the people involved are trying to "hurt" them or that it's unhealthy.

Harm in any form is unhealthy. People that engage in these perverse acts of bodily destruction are in need of psychiatric help. I know this from personal experience. These people are awfully creepy and need to be taught how to behave normally. Hurting for pleasure is not normal and these people don't stop with the willing. They are borderline psychotic and will victimize an innocent person because someone did this to me a long time ago and I can't have normal relations with anyone romantic or otherwise because of the trauma locked in my mind from that horrible experience. These people need to be fixed because they are 100% damaged, get it!? These people are criminals plain and simple that engage in harming people. They taunt, they bully, they break a person down and take away their sanity all for their pleasure even when they know you don't like being treated that way and they don't give a crap about how you feel, even you're comfortable. They need a lot of help, maybe even medication to curb them of harming others. Tippi Hedren says it best:

"I don't know what to call it," the still-stunning 82-year-old said. "It was something I'd never experienced before. It wasn't love. When you love someone, you treat them well."


That said I'm getting personal again but have you ever wished someone horrible, immoral and profane would just die so that you can be at peace, stop being bullied by them and move on with your life? I've given this person the codename of Thanos because that's who I think of.
 
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A couple that consensually engages in S&M is a different situation from one partner physically abusing the other.
 
As long as the couple both agree to it and enjoy it, then I see no problem with it.
 
Hair pulling, scratching, biting light hitting and holding people down I see no problem with that.
 
I'll ask you now, a two part question: did YOU ever cheat on someone? Have you ever been cheated on?

Yes.

And denying a physical act its emotional and psychological component is cowardly.

I said ascribing it a power it doesn't neccessarily have is dangerous. I never said that it has no power. The impact is has is up to the person who is in the situation. Of course sexual acts can have emotional and psychological impact...but it doesn't have to be a life shattering one...I believe in balance.

What you DO defines you. I don't give a **** what you say you feel.

I would imagine you don't give a **** about the intersection between feelings and actions becuse you realize that what you do doesn't inherently have anything to do with your feelings, which change from time to time.

Thanks for helping me make my point. A physical act does not mean you don't feel "love" for someone. Love is an emotion...loving is an act, but there's nothing inherent to the idea of love that suggests that you will never hurt someone.

If I screw another woman, I am proving I don't care about the emotional commitment I made.

No you're not. You're proving you wanted to screw another woman. You can very much still care about the emotional commitment you made...you just failed at it for the moment.

It is a lie.

Its only a lie if you lied about the commitment.

You can't retroactively say an entire emotional commitment was a "lie" because you failed to succeed at the commitment.

That's high school nonsense.

I have proved that I am mentally feeble enough to throw away a promise to another person.

Thats because you are. You've basically proved you're human. All humans are mentally "feeble" enough to do such a thing...it's called free will and choice. We're all capable of hurting others, breaking promises, etc.

Sex is not the be all, end all of a relationship, but throwing that to the wind is childish.

Throwing what to the wind is childish?

If you dive in with your genitals, and then go "it's just sex," when you made a promise, you are an emotional and intellectual liar. For all the great game you talk, you have proved you are incapable of actually walking your talk.

You're only an emotional and intellectural liar if you lie.

What "game" are you referring to?

I'm going to bed. I'm going to go lie down next to the woman I love, the woman I would never betray, the woman I would never call a "*****". The woman I would never blame for my own transgressions. The woman I would never dream of making ****** excuses to because I was too stupid to take responsibility for my actions.

Never is a long time...and a dangerous word. And not everyone blames their partner for their own transgressions and makes excuses when they cheat.

So...what's the deal with people that like Sado Masochistic Bondage abuse? For the love of God I just cannot fathom why anyone would think that hurting another person they claim to care about is showing them love. Now I'm talking about something personal here and I don't keep it a secret that I was physically abused and it was not fun and it was not what I consider showing someone how much they love you. If it's an adrenaline thing I've listened to music that has made me feel much more positive adrenaline rushes, like certain battle themes from the Monster Hunter games. In my opinion though anyone that likes this stuff I think needs intensive therapy because bruises and scars are not indicative of love but self hatred and hatred of others if you derive pleasure from seeing others suffer. It makes me believe that person has a very damaged psyche that needs help before they hurt an innocent person that did not want to participate in their unhealthy fixations.

Its not about love…its about what gets some people off.

Pain. Intensity. Its about control, mostly.

A lot of people who have had control over sexual and social situations like to lose it from time to time, and this gets them off.
 
Hair pulling, scratching, biting light hitting and holding people down I see no problem with that.

My ex scratched the **** out of my back one time. I didn't like it. I like my skin attached to my body.
 
Been a while since I checked this thread out...Regarding Dreadstar, i find it very difficult that this lady fling friend of his did a complete 360 on their encounter after she apparently blasted him on how he treats her.

But I dont know how women in relationships react when they at that age of around 50. I am in my twenties and in my relationship with my girlfriend, I like to talk about anything on our minds.

So if she has a problem with what we eat, open your mouth and say something...Or if I am cheap...say something. Instead of sitting there and letting something build.

And I think its good that thedude ended his relationship. Best do it now rather then just waiting around to see if its worth hiding it from her
 
A couple that consensually engages in S&M is a different situation from one partner physically abusing the other.
Yup. S&M is 100% consensual. That's why there are safe words. It's that feeling of danger with the comfort of knowing you actually aren't in danger. While there's nothing that feels safe about abuse.

I don't like pain myself (and scratching is dumb to me) but light hair pulling and bondage is no biggie. If I get uncomfortable I could, ya know, tell my bf to stop...
 
What matters to many people is apparently someone never failing them. Which is just...silly.

Speaking of promises...what about the "for better or worse" part of the promise?

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, haven't caught up. What about the promise to love you and no other?
 
Tippi Hedren says it best:

"I don't know what to call it," the still-stunning 82-year-old said. "It was something I'd never experienced before. It wasn't love. When you love someone, you treat them well."


How do you define 'treating them well'? Would you define it as pleasing them, making them happy? Maybe even if they liked it a bit... rough in the sack?

What if treating them well was S&M? :o
 
How do you define 'treating them well'? Would you define it as pleasing them, making them happy? Maybe even if they liked it a bit... rough in the sack?

What if treating them well was S&M? :o

I think Godzilla thinks every woman wants to be treated like a princess in a Disney movie. She trapped in her tower now and just waiting for the prince to slay the dragons and take her to her happily ever after. Like a Disney princess they will get married before even having a first date or proper introduction.
 
You forgot the charming duet they sing together. :o
 
Well, if you had the **** pecked out of you by rabid crows, I could see where that mindset comes from.
 
Has anybody ever felt too lazy to begin a relationship? It's too much work. Like... fo' real.
 
During sex, if she is not pulling your hair, scratching your back, moaning, and gently biting your neck and shoulders, your doing it wrong!

S & M is fine as long as you have a safe word! I LOVE hand cuffing a woman and "disciplining" her for being such a bad girl!
 
Right sex =

1. Hair pulling
2. Back scratching
3. Moaning
4. Neck and shoulder nibbles

Subtracting an element = wrong sex...

... despite achievement of orgasm.

got it.
 
Right sex =

1. Hair pulling
2. Back scratching
3. Moaning
4. Neck and shoulder nibbles

Subtracting an element = wrong sex...

... despite achievement of orgasm.

got it.

Thats not what I said. Subtract all you want, I PREFER all of the above.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, haven't caught up. What about the promise to love you and no other?

"Forsaking all others"?

That's part of it.

But just because you screw up on one part of the vows doesn't mean the rest don't matter.

Also, I’m pretty sure all the Disney princesses are freaks.
 
"Forsaking all others"?

That's part of it.

But just because you screw up on one part of the vows doesn't mean the rest don't matter.

Also, I’m pretty sure all the Disney princesses are freaks.

Why should the other person uphold the marriage vow, when you clearly don't feel the need to?
 
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