After Nolan's BATMAN trilogy... - Part 1

[Rockstar]

If TDKR is a huge success,

Warner Bros will predictably get the next director to stay close to Chris Nolan's approach.


You don't try to fix what isn't broken. They aren't going to drastically shake up a winning formula. It's a bad business move.

 

[Midnight Black]

Yeah, but in 5 or 6 years time I can see them wanting to incorporate more of the DC Universe and compete or go the route Marvel has gone. What better character to do that with than Batman.

Also, I think the gray suit will work on film if it is a dark gray or gun metal color suit. Movie lighting and the fact the suit will constantly be covered by shadows or in motion will not make the suit look as bad as many would think. I think having an armored suit, that looks more fabric than bare hard armor would look fantastic.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

If TDKR is a huge success,

Warner Bros will predictably get the next director to stay close to Chris Nolan's approach.


You don't try to fix what isn't broken. They aren't going to drastically shake up a winning formula. It's a bad business move.

when has batman making money ever been a problem though? even schumaker cheese fests made a ****load. if anything, the over saturation of bats on film might actually start boring people.

 

[Shikamaru]

The suit in the comics now IS composed from armour and other things. You can find it on wiki what it's made from.

I've said before, I don't think the grey suit looks good in real life, just like the black suit doesn't look good in the comics.

And we most certainly can't afford to have Batman's suit look 'silly' and hopes the lighting will somehow hide it!

Just give me the current look of the costume, which is good, in black.

I mean, I get accused of not being a true Batman fan when I say I don't think the grey costume will work in live action. Everybody more or less wants it just to be grey for comic accuracy, which is fine. But I think we can agree, if it didn't look good, didn't translate well, wether it was the colour or materials...none of us want Batman to look silly, just for the sake of being comic accurate?!

It's like what Stan Lee said, some things just don't translate from the comics into film, and things to compromise.

But who knows? Maybe with the right creative team, the grey suit will work for the film?
But from what I've seen from B89 to BB, it wouldn't of. But as I said, perhaps all it needs is the right creative team, differing from the likes of Burton, Shumacer and Nolan?

Technically, Batman has had armor components in his costume for years already but the difference between that and the armor in the movies is that:
1) It's not too noticeable. A lot of the times, the aritsts make it looks indistinguishable from plain simple fabric.
2) The suit in the comics has armor parts, as opposed to being full armor.

It's fine to have add a bit of armor to it as long as it doesn't become too noticeable and doesn't cover up most of the body (for good reasons too; Batman not wearing a lot of armor allows him to move more fluid, be lighter, and do more stuff). And it doesn't have to be the same shade of gray as the comics suit. You can make it dark gray or gun metal color like someone else said.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduct...ictures/6981/original/batbbig.jpeg?1336745962
This is a good example of a Batman suit that can work well and have all the requirements. It has a few rubber/armor components added to it while still keeping the suit mostly spandex and changes the grey color of the suit in the comics to dark grey/gun metal color. And if the suit still doesn't work after all of that, then make the whole suit black while still being made out of the same material and/or get rid of the underwear.

I personally would like the underwear to not be used regardless of how the suit looks like and what it's made out of.

 

[The Guard]

We've seen the gray attempted.

Batman's "batbra" in TDK and TDKR is clearly an attempt to get gray design elements into the suit.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Hmm, that could work. I'm getting a spooky Keaton vibe, even with the colour.

 

[Midnight Black]

We've seen the gray attempted.

Batman's "batbra" in TDK and TDKR is clearly an attempt to get gray design elements into the suit.

Actually the Batbra is a very poor attempt in incorporating gray into the suit. You can't say that small piece and poor attempt is indicative of what a gray sit would translate too.

I'm all for a gunmetal or dark gray suit with black accents or no black at all.

I WANT MY JUSTICE LEAGUE FILM NOW!!!!

 

[Rodrigo90]

I would definitely be onboard with a gunmetal colour for the costume. Not too black and not too grey. That would certainly be an interesting look.

 

[DaveMoral]

I want a Batman conceived after the style of Matt Wagner but with elements of New 52 and Arkham tossed in. And oddly, I still think the Bat-manip of Cap best represents that look. It's a step toward JL too.

Honestly, I don't know if I'd go with a new Batman standalone film to reintroduce him either. Reintroduce him in World's Finest. Follow that up with Trinity to intro Wonder Woman then JL.

It's probably a fooloah dream to see that incorporated into a similar approach to realizing the JL but doing things a bit different than Marvel by introing our principles in a new DC film universe by banking on the audience's familiarity with the characters and doing team-up films as lead-ins for the JL movie.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

i have a pretty cool idea to introduce the new Bruce Wayne in the next Bat franchise and having it set up a shared DC Universe. i think the best way to introduce Bruce Wayne would be in the sequel to Man Of Steel. now, we first have to see how well the film does in the box office next year and whether or not WB wants to have a shared universe. but i figure a sequel to MOS will come out somewhere between 2015-2017. i think by then WB would want to start up a new series of Batman films and what better way to introduce Bruce Wayne than having him do a cameo in the MOS sequel? with Lex supposedly being saved for the sequel, i think it'd be pretty cool to have a scene between Lex & Bruce - 2 businessmen with vastly different views. this scene alone can give the audience a nod to a shared universe. if the MOS sequel were to come out in 2016, then the Bat reboot could come out the following year in 2017. this would help WB/DC test the waters if a shared universe can be attainable or not.

 

[cryptic name]

I doubt things will be too over the top...but since Nolan is no longer involved, I sense the realism angle being lowered drastically.

But apparently Batman and MOS will be connected to a JL movie, so I think we should look at that to give us a taste of what to expect. Cause it be out of place to see a stylised and gothic world of Batman be shifted to a more realistic looking Superman one. Saying that though, I don't even think MOS will look anything like Nolan's (since he is producer) world as I first imagined, since Zack Synder is the director.

They'll probably get someone like Aronofsky or Del Toro onboard, to make it look more fantastical and match it with Synder's look...or they might not


I just know now when I write scripts for Batman in my spare time I dont have try and match to what Nolan would expect for a reboot

If I read an announcement that Del Toro was doing Batman I'd drop dead from the sheer excitement.

 

[Rodrigo90]

If I read an announcement that Del Toro was doing Batman I'd drop dead from the sheer excitement.

He would be a very good choice. Would most certainly bring the comic book world to life


BTW regarding the costume. It's only sprung to my mind...it's not even grey in the comics...the colour IS gunmetal.


If anybody has the time, could you bring the Captain America/Batman manip here and change the colour from grey to gunmetal please? Cheers

 

[TheWatcher]

Del Toro directed Batman is a dream of mine.

 

[Naked Shia]

I would be glad if Del Toro or Aronofsky was directing the reboot.

 

[JerseyJoker]

I have no idea why people would want Aronofsky on the project, he would want to to turn Batman into his own original idea. Look at his Year One film, it's ****in horrible.

 

[Rodrigo90]

WB wouldn't allow that happen nowadays. Besides, I have confidence in his directing skills and writing skills. His Batman idea was pretty much a blip in his judgement, but no way would WB allow that now.

Now, if you'll excuse me...I have to go google some pics of Scarlett Johansson

 

[Destructus86]

I think gray works but only a darker gray. Batman should also be the greatest detective, a near super genius and a master at martial arts and cloak and dagger,

 

[SGTchef]

You can't say for sure if a grey suit would work or not, because nobody has done it in a big budget film.

Yeah, and with the armor that Nolan fits on Batman will be very very very difficult to see this grey suit again ...

 

[Rodrigo90]

I think gray works but only a darker gray.

If it's just going to be dark grey, then it might as well be black.

But as I say, that Gunmetal grey is a very specific tone. Which is perfect for people like me who wants the black to remain and others who want a grey costume

NOW SOMEBODY DO A DAMN MANIP SO WE CAN GO HOME!!!

 

[Midnight Black]

Hahah...looks like I added fuel to the fire. I think Batman should have a bunch of different suits like Tony Stark has.

However, if we ever get a JL/JS movie then I think having a gray/gunmetal batman will fit better given the other colors of the team.

I think the problem with a JL/JS movie is that it can/should not be a single film even if given a trilogy or 4th or 5th film. I think they should do a LOTR style film and shoot it back to back and make it that more epic.

 

[The Guard]

The obvious answer is to have a Batsuit that is black, but looks somewhat black and gray due to different materials, etc.

 

[Rodrigo90]

The comics costume is based on TDK's costume. With the kevlar plates attached to a fibre suit. However, Nolan's suit was designed to give Batman some sort of 'Knight in shining armour' look. The comics design hasn't followed that. The armoured plates aren't as 'chopped up' as Nolan's suit, they're more closer together.

The armour still going for the reboot costume is fine. You can easily get the gunmetal colour or whatever from that, since armour is that colour anyways.

I also think, if that happens, the cape shouldn't be all black either. Make it a dark grey on the inside, like in The New Batman Adventures cartoon. This would give Batman more stealthy means to blend if he hasn't got the cape wrapped around himself.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Quite frankly, after hearing what Bruce does at the end I think frankly Nolan wrote the single worst Batman characters of all time. A Batman that [blackout]doesn't want to be Batman. I hope they never ever entertain such a foolish notion again.[/blackout]

 

[Paradoxium]

There is only one answer.

Grant Morrison's Prep-Time Batgod

 

[owlbungeechord]

After TDKR Batman will retire from the big screen for a while. DC will continue to do animated movies with him, and other heroes, that go straight to video.
DC will concentrate it's big screen efforts into, mostly, Superman and maybe a GL sequal. Eventually (a few years), either Batman will come back or if we are really lucky (I doubt it) we may get a JL movie.