BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

[Sleiek]

8-9 feet sounds about right. I guess 8' 9" "official" height according to Google is best after all.

 

[jokesonm3]

That's what she said.

 

[Jaxon]

Well, Total Film had reported that BvS takes place only 8 months after MoS. I'm confused.

That would make sense given the hearing Superman has to attend. You wouldn't think it'd be 3 years later, that's too long.

 

[flickchick85]

The Hulk in Avengers was about 8.5" tall, so how he looks in relation to the other Avengers is about how Darkseid would look next to the JL.

 

[jokesonm3]

The Hulk in Avengers was about 8.5" tall, so how he looks in relation to the other Avengers is about how Darkseid would look next to the JL.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Lois and more BvS from Empire,

Continued...

…”It’s the human outlook on Superman,” says Cavill, “and that is why such a major thing happens.” And no matter how many Bat-toys a billionaire industrialist can buy, this isn’t a fair fight right?
“It’s not about one on one,” says Cavill, who points out that, if it was, then “of course Superman is going to win. But it’s deeper than that. It’s more that these two great powers exist and are actually trying to achieve the same thing, but in such different ways…” They are going to learn that the Super-hard way.

The world may have changed and the challenges intensified, but it’s clear that whoever else is going to get suited and rebooted for DC’s expansion, Superman is still very much the same guy we saw in Man of Steel: he is Henry Cavill. As much as Zack Snyder, he provides a crucial continuity from that movie – there is a good reason they didn’t recast the role entirely and start from scratch. The part has become his entirely, and that’s as much down to his focus and commitment as his physique.

Since Christopher Reeve’s sky-blue champion, a lasting Superman had eluded Hollywood. Brandon Routh and Bryan Singer did a credible version, Donner’s Superman II didn’t compute (Superman Returns is arguably the most forgotten superhero movie of recent times). Tim Burton’s ambitious reimagination of the interplanetary boy scout with Superman Lives foundered in a miasma of studio indecision. Then, 2001, Wolfgang Petersen was actually developing World’s Finest: Batman Vs Superman, with Jude Law, Joseph Hartnett or Matt Damon due to be the noble side of the contretemps kicked off by the murder of Bruce Wayne’s wife. But that was pre-Marvel, when battling superheroes felt excessive.

Now the timing is right for this showdown, and Cavill remains that best (Super) man for the job. Even between takes. On set, Empire is told that whenever he and Snyder disagree over matters of Superman’s psychology, they do push-ups until one gives in. “I don’t do push-ups,” snorts Cavill, who prefers three hours a day in the on-site gym to maintain his Super-physique. “Zack does lots of push-ups on set, though. He’s started a push-up cult.”

It’s a sign of the times that even the director resembles a superhero, but for Cavill staying in shape is a point of professional necessity. Working out, he says, has become a lifestyle choice. He’s put on 30lbs of muscle for this movie, and will calm it down to 10lbs between films. To play Superman every two years he maintains a base level of extremely fit before ramping it up too ridiculously cut, edging closer to DC’s Olympian ideal first set down by school friend Jerry Siegel and artist Joe Shuster in 1933.

“It’s not as if I am going to be able to play a POW and then Superman again,” says Cavill. “My commitment lies with the first.” You can’t blame the man for his dedication: the 32 year-old British actor had been up for Batman, Bond and Superman Returns only to narrowly miss out on all of them. Finally, he got to help reinvent the Man Of Tomorrow for today, both awesome and troubled, and he wants to make sure the credibility never slips.

“He’s always in there,” he says, pointing to his titanic chest. Out there in the real world, fans want to meet Superman not Henry Cavill, and that requires a certain bearing in every quarter. “It sits there simmering at ten percent all the time,” he says, “and then when it comes to acting you just crank it up to 100 percent.”

Very much in the public eye now himself, Superman does get to be a bit more, well, Superman this time around. He’s no longer in the shadows. Quite the opposite. “There are hero moments where it looks like a hero moment,” Cavill says proudly. “It doesn’t look like a bum saving a bunch of people then disappearing in the shadows. We’re introducing a potential long-term villain (Lex Luthor), we’re introducing Batman, and we’re introducing Wonder Woman. This is the Dawn of Justice.”

As he says, this isn’t so much the “second” Superman movie as the ‘first’ in a new series that will see him be teamed up with Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman, Jason Momoa’s Aquaman and Affleck’s Batman. Although, it seems, the Justice League is still a high-high concept Cavill can’t entirely get his head around. “It’s a bunch of people who are all used to getting their own way, so we’ll see how they interact,” he smiles, “And the guy who can kick anyone’s ass is the nice one.” Well, depending on your point of view.

 

[Rapunzel]

By the end of BvS, witness how Bruce will pull off the world's biggest troll moment when Clark extends his hand to shake Bruce's for the first time as a sign of respect, only for Bruce to place a bill into Clark's hand that tallies up all of the destruction and cost of damages that Clark owes him.

Clark goes bankrupt and is forced to play children's parties with Ray Stantz and Winston Zedemore.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Damn, I've always been sold on Cavill, but he's really got my admiration now. My interest lied more on the Batman side of things for this film, but the scales have now been tipped.

 

[brandeezy89]

That would make sense given the hearing Superman has to attend. You wouldn't think it'd be 3 years later, that's too long.

How do we know he's attending a hearing for the Black Zero Event? It could be because of the Russian rocket he's carrying in the trailers or interfering with something in another country.

 

[False Prophet]

I imagine Darkseid and Mongol to be the same height, and Mongul can do this:

 

[RadioSha]

I imagine Darkseid and Mongol to be the same height, and Mongul can do this:

I would prefer that height. Darkseid should also significantly tower over anyone in the league.

 

[Jaxon]

How do we know he's attending a hearing for the Black Zero Event? It could be because of the Russian rocket he's carrying in the trailers or interfering with something in another country.

Push-ups Snyderman said so.

 

[Boom]

I love Mongul.

 

[Rapunzel]

How do we know he's attending a hearing for the Black Zero Event? It could be because of the Russian rocket he's carrying in the trailers or interfering with something in another country.

I agree. They built a statue of Supes. I can't imagine that would happen if the gov. mistrusted Supes enough to put him on trial for the black zero stuff.

 

[Monochron]

"He murdered people, he must be stopped."

And there goes that stupid "Batman is going to kill" thing.

Not necessarily.

 

[Herolee10]

Continued...

Based off the last paragraph, it seems to indicate that Aquaman will have some kind of interaction with Superman and won't just be a blink and you'll miss him kind of cameo like some have theorized.

 

[ernesth100]

Omg, so many possibilites. Wonder Woman is related to Aquaman supposedly. Maybe she introduces Superman to him. Then there's the possibility that Aquaman doesnt trust humans. Maybe there's whales or fish being killed by fishermen and aquaman sinks their boat/ship. Superman tries to save them and gets in a quick tustle with Aquaman before he can manage to do so. Then there's that rumor a while back that Aquaman has been captured. Maybe Superman finds where he's being held and releases him or something. Or maybe there's like a really badass entrance scene.

Imagine people at the beach and suddenly the water splits open and Aquaman walks out the ocean. Why we do not know yet. But guess who's there to great him? Big boy in blue. The possibilities are quite literally endless.

 

[jokesonm3]

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

And about that Senate hearing,

Historically the United States Congress is not to be found in Pontiac, Detroit. Yet here are the famous marble steps of the capital building in a disused GM motor plant, crowned by the wall of green-screen (on which the building itself will emerge during post production). A crowd of protesters have gathered at the foot of the stairs, hemmed by barriers, and wielding placards emblazoned with scathing slogans: “This is our world not yours!”, “God hates aliens!” and “Earth belongs to humans!”

As the particular of the forthcoming shots are being fussed over, an assistant director orchestrates the anti-Superman ranting. “Let’s give it something this time,” he shouts. Louder still, the call comes for the camera to roll. Zack Snyder is located beneath a small canopy safely out of shot, clasping a microphone with which he transmits his commands. The protestors shake their billboards as if getting warmed up for a lynching. Squeezed into their midst, Empire spots Amy Adams as a fraught Lois Lane.

Bowed before them, like Rodin’s Thinker, is the subject of their fury. Cavill’s Superman has just landed at high velocity. Although the actual descent will be put in later with CGI, this is the finished pose, bracing the impact through his mighty thighs. In one fluid movement he rises to his feet and turns to face the crowd and its seething hatred. His expression is unreadable but he’s not smiling.

It is July 28, 2014, well over two months into production on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the fourth major shoot to make its base at this pop-up studio which utilizes a car factory left vacant in the wake of the financial desolation that wracked the city. The scale of its halls can match any soundstage, and on a brief tour Empire has seen the bones of the Bat-cave, a Batmobile repair shop and, built in what was once a parking lot, these Capitol steps.

Superman has come to face the senate committee, chaired by Holly Hunter’s Senator Finch, to try and convince them he is not a threat to national security. “People have begun to fear him,” says Cavill. “Is he too powerful, is he, in fact, a tyrant?”

 

[Cats]

Hey, I don't know is this has been discussed, but I thought the other day about the Superman kneeling in front of Lex scene and thought...what if this scene takes place AFTER Supes and Bats fight and realize that Lex has been pulling the strings and at this point they're working together and setting Lex up?? As in Superman comes to Lex to confront him, but shows himself kinda defeated (or is affected by Lex's kryptonite) while trying to get a confession from him; Lex, thinking that he already won over Superman, can't help but boast and rub his genious on the kryptonian's face, all while Bats is recording him or something, and once he shows himself and him and Supes are like "Gotcha govnah!!", is that Lex unleashes Doomsday

Superman and Batman are going to team up at some point. My guess is that (if that Superman isn't Bizarro ) Lex is holding Lois hostage (maybe in a cage of kryptonite so Superman can't get to her), and he thinks he finally has Superman under his thumb, except Batman will help rescue Lois while Lex is busy enjoying his "glory moment". Lol that would be poetic justice.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Thanks again Mrs. Wayne!!

 

[ernesth100]

I thi k Anger and Sadness are working together in Bruces mind.

 

[jokesonm3]

I thi k Anger and Sadness are working together in Bruces mind.

Anger is the grand daddy of Batman's mind lol.

 

[Guts]

Thanos's weapon is jewelry and Darkseid's weapon is math.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Darkseid's weapon is math.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrddd