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[fake]

I see, cheers for that.

The biggest advantage BvS has is the fact that there is nothing in the marketplace for weeks before and weeks after. Even if Deadpool way exceeds expectations and opens with, say 80M over the 4 day weekend, it will be at less than 1M dailies when BvS comes along. The release slate leading up to BvS has one clear cut big performer and nothing else.

Feb 19: Race and Risen, both will open in the 20-30M range
Feb 26: Gods of Egypt, this one will flop hard
March 4: Zootopia will open to 50M or more, best case is it matches Lorax. Even if it does, it will be at 10-15M on the weekend BvS opens. London has fallen will fall (no pun intended) from the first movie
March 11: 10 Cloverfield Lane will probably open to 30M, and collapse similar to how Cloverfield did
March 18: Allegiant is going to fall hard from Insurgent, maybe a 40M OW to 15M when BvS opens

The market will be primed for a major breakout which hits all demographics (Zootopia will be mainly families). If the BvS marketing team can hit the right buttons in the 2 weeks leading up to release with a carpetbombing campaign, it can explode because of latent demand.

 

[matt47]

Just watching the Teaser again...man. I can't believe how long ago that was.

 

[Lily Adler]

They really are missing a unique opportunity.

The QB of the Panthers, Cam Newton, fancies himself as Superman. Even does a shirt rip as one of his celebrations.

Then there's the QB of the Broncos. Peyton Manning. If he isn't he Batman of the NFL than I don't know who is.

Never utter these words again...

 

[jokesonm3]

The biggest advantage BvS has is the fact that there is nothing in the marketplace for weeks before and weeks after. Even if Deadpool way exceeds expectations and opens with, say 80M over the 4 day weekend, it will be at less than 1M dailies when BvS comes along. The release slate leading up to BvS has one clear cut big performer and nothing else.

Feb 19: Race and Risen, both will open in the 20-30M range
Feb 26: Gods of Egypt, this one will flop hard
March 4: Zootopia will open to 50M or more, best case is it matches Lorax. Even if it does, it will be at 10-15M on the weekend BvS opens. London has fallen will fall (no pun intended) from the first movie
March 11: 10 Cloverfield Lane will probably open to 30M, and collapse similar to how Cloverfield did
March 18: Allegiant is going to fall hard from Insurgent, maybe a 40M OW to 15M when BvS opens

The market will be primed for a major breakout which hits all demographics (Zootopia will be mainly families). If the BvS marketing team can hit the right buttons in the 2 weeks leading up to release with a carpetbombing campaign, it can explode because of latent demand.

You know those films before BvS remind me a lot of the competition Furious 7 faced before their Easter release 2015, which was:

March 6-8: Chappie @ $13M OW
March 13-15: Cinderella @ $67M OW
March 20-22: Divergent: Insurgent @ $52M OW
March 27-29: Home @ $52M OW
April 3-5: Furious 7 @ $147m OW

 

[jokesonm3]

However one thing i'm really worried about that appears to be tradition to DC films is it's international take, usually DC films have a 50/50 give-or-take split, but we need this film to do at least, $700M INT, im hoping that china's expansion assists it a lot.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

An even better question is who did Zack original have in mind to play Lex?

Wasn't it Adam Driver? I remember everybody thinking he was up for Nightwing

 

[brandeezy89]

Hmmm looks like one of the Reddit guys were telling the truth about how Doomsday is defeated based off that comic.

 

[fake]

However one thing i'm really worried about that appears to be tradition to DC films is it's international take, usually DC films have a 50/50 give-or-take split, but we need this film to do at least, $700M INT, im hoping that china's expansion assists it a lot.

The reason TDK had a 50-50 split was because movies just had a 50-50 split back in 2008, look at the other 2008 movies. Anything above 50-50 was a rarity because Asia hadn't expanded yet. TDKR had a 40-60 split almost. MoS had a 40-60 split. I have no idea how this "DC Movies have a 50-50 split" even started.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Hmmm looks like one of the Reddit guys were telling the truth about how Doomsday is defeated based off that comic.

What comic?

 

[brandeezy89]

What comic?

The one posted on the first page of this thread

 

[jokesonm3]

The reason TDK had a 50-50 split was because movies just had a 50-50 split back in 2008, look at the other 2008 movies. Anything above 50-50 was a rarity because Asia hadn't expanded yet. TDKR had a 40-60 split almost. MoS had a 40-60 split. I have no idea how this "DC Movies have a 50-50 split" even started.

Past experience.

But i hope to high Zod this film cashes in big on the big international markets, however it it to note that films like Kung Fu Panda 3 comes out a week after BvS in france, while Zootopia comes out on the same week as BvS in the UK, ireland, Israel and belgium.

Places like the UK and France are some of the top film markets in the world so i'd hate to see another MoS/Monsters University situation happen again internationally.

Kung Fu Panda 3

Zootopia

 

[Val_Zod]

Just watching the Teaser again...man. I can't believe how long ago that was.

Back when people were complaining they showed too little rather than nowadays where they're complaing they are showing too much.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Back when people were complaining they showed too little rather than nowadays where they're showing too much.

Gotta love the internet

 

[jokesonm3]

You know how awesome the BvS comic con trailer is?

Imagine seeing the Justice League: Part One - Comic Con Trailer [HD]

 

[fake]

Past experience.

But i hope to high Zod this film cashes in big on the big international markets, however it it to note that films like Kung Fu Panda 3 comes out a week after BvS in france, while Zootopia comes out on the same week as BvS in the UK, ireland, Israel and belgium.

Places like the UK and France are some of the top film markets in the world so i'd hate to see another MoS/Monsters University situation happen again internationally.

Kung Fu Panda 3

Zootopia

KFP3 and Zootopia will pretty much affect each other. BvS is releasing almost everywhere WW at the same time to take advantage of the Easter holiday weekend. Multiple movies can co-exist in most markets at that time because the moviegoers are off for 5-6 days and can take in multiple movies.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Exactly thank you And social media isn't that hard to stop sometimes. I've taken a break from FB before plenty of times. Not that difficult really, people are too reliant or dependent on it that's the problem. And then they wanna blame the studios and what not for showing too much. Makes me shake my head.

I'm late responding, but I gotta get this out. I, like a lot of people, work in a digital landscape, so nah, I can't just avoid the Internet. It's also the primary way I, and many others, keep in contact with family. Plus, I shouldn't have to put a hold on something as basic as my social media account just to avoid publishers saturating me with content.

Iunno, I get that a lot of stuff is certainly avoidable. Like don't go on this site or on message boards if you don't wanna know anything about CBMs. But to say that some films aren't overmarketed and that some publishers do a shoddy job with releasing content seems willfully ignorant to me.

Sorry to derail, but I had to get that outta my system.

 

[jokesonm3]

KFP3 and Zootopia will pretty much affect each other. BvS is releasing almost everywhere WW at the same time to take advantage of the Easter holiday weekend. Multiple movies can co-exist in most markets at that time because the moviegoers are off for 5-6 days and can take in multiple movies.

Nice, so what's your both realistic and hopeful predictions for this film to do internationally?

Including the whole China expansion of course, given how terrible films of 2015 like both Terminator Genysis and San Andreas did $100M each in China.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/china/yearly/

 

[Astro13Zombie]

The one posted on the first page of this thread

Thanks!

 

[MrMaooz]

This film will make its money. You can relax a little, Jokes.

 

[jokesonm3]

This film will make its money. You can relax a little, Jokes.

But i want more money.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Yeah, caught my attention as well.

Anyway, didn't they establish that Wayne Ent. doesn't deal with weaponry? I find it odd that they have kryptonian weapons.

And it would seem that mech-suit is repurposed kryptonian armor.

#preptime

 

[DerekLake]

Hmmm looks like one of the Reddit guys were telling the truth about how Doomsday is defeated based off that comic.

I wouldn't be so sure. This comic has Wayne Enterprises getting access to the Kryptonian tech, and seemingly developing Kryptonite, but we know that it's actually Lexcorp that gets that access. In fact, if the WIRED article is canon, then Wayne Enterprises doesn't actually have any current government contracts. In short, I don't think this comic is entirely canon. That said, certain elements might be true, such as the sound-based emitter. MOS demonstrated that Kryptonian senses could be overwhelmed. But yeah, this doesn't seem to match what we know about the film.

 

[Sleiek]

Just watching the Teaser again...man. I can't believe how long ago that was.

Yeah, they did take their sweet time and we are finally here.

Seriously though, this was a long a$$ wait. t:

 

[MrMaooz]

Gone are the days of "the trailer is with the hobbit" and "no! it's with Jupiter Ascending!"

Here we are, man.

 

[Sleiek]

The struggle fans go through.