All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion - - - Part 12

[Legendver2]

Because that's exactly what some of us have been saying.

I don't expect an Oscar-worthy performance. I do, however, expect a good performance. That did not come across in the trailer. Just my personal opinion, of course. Feel free to misconstrue that however you wish.

We've been spoiled by Christian Bale

 

[Paradox1]

Kristen Stewart? So you want her to reach the bottom? She's about as bad as it gets in terms of big movie actresses

Kristen Stewart in the smaller films she has done like Still Alice is not just suitable she is exceptional. Maybe she was bad in the early part of her career in those twilight movies but she is way better now.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I think at least some of the comments about Gadot’s acting are really complaints about her accent.

You're projecting. Just a heads up.

 

[Legendver2]

Kristen Stewart in the smaller films she has done like Still Alice is not just suitable she is exceptional. Maybe she was bad in the early part of her career in those twilight movies but she is way better now.

To be fair, everybody was bad in those Twilight movies.

 

[Tra-El]

Her accent doesn't bother me in the slightest. It actually suspends my suspension of belief even further into believing she's from a Paradise world. Her looks and charm really bring it all together. Gal looks great in the suit and pulls that off almost flawlessly. If they give her a good range of scenes to show the top end of her acting ability, then I think it would be easy to win over the nay-sayers if everything else comes together. When it comes to this project in the latest DCEU, the seed of skepticism was already planted a long time ago (Gal's acting) so I'm not surprised people will continue to leech off of that until proven otherwise (especially the jaded fans.)

Highly looking forward to this!

 

[Micromind]

Liked the Trailer #2.

Gal's acting looks serviceable, she is slowly improving as she gets enough experience ( not counting 3 Fast and Furious movies, she has "acted" in Criminal, Triple 9, Keeping up with Joneses and BvS)

And, I don't think having an accent equals "Bad acting", further I don't think having an American accent would have worked for WW.

Lastly, Double Negative is doing the Special Effects (which also worked on MoS and BvS) WB don't have the luxury of having ILM or WETA, so CGI will not look as great, deal with it.

* goes back into shadows*

 

[Bagide]

GLORIOUS! GLORIOUS! YES! You might Fong is behind the lense

 

[Boom]

Kristen Stewart in the smaller films she has done like Still Alice is not just suitable she is exceptional. Maybe she was bad in the early part of her career in those twilight movies but she is way better now.

Yep. She's done sensational work as of late.

 

[Nemeres]

I do like the presence of Etta Candy. Having a cute/funny sidekick in there for the heroine feels a bit classic Disney.

 

[Link]

It's always great when it happens, but it I don't think it should be expected. Let's be honest: the majority of the output for the published source material, at any given time, has little (if any) literary merit. I know we comic fans like to inflate the importance of DC/Marvel's stuff, but really, only 2-3 of their 50+ titles a month at any given time are worth the time of day. Wonder Woman herself has great stuff by Marston, Perez, Rucka and Morrison, but the rest is all either standard fare or utter crap. Logically, if we adapt this material into Summer blockbusters, we shouldn't expect cinematic masterpieces or flawless acting because odds are the best stuff beyond the basic mythology won't make it into a film that needs to appeal to the widest audience possible.

And while Marvel has had some amazing actors at its disposal, they haven't always had the best roles. Anybody could have played Jane Foster as written, they didn't need Natalie Portman. And if Hemsworth can get by, I think Gadot should be fine, as limited as her range is. The most we should hope for, IMO, is a fun time at the movies and maybe hope that the newest CBM will be better than average, but not much more. Which makes it all the more pleasantly surprising when they manage it.

I agree with a lot of that! All studios have cast incredible actors in completely thankless roles. Amy Adams, Natalie Portman, Rachel McAdams have all been completely wasted on these movies. But still, I do think WB could cast better actors for the leads. That's what saves even the worst X-Men movies, the brilliant actors. Affleck did his best with BvS, but he wasn't enough to overcome the dourness. It's not a coincidence that most emotional exposition Superman goes through is delivered by other much more talented actors, while Cavill just stands there. I'm not going to dismiss Gadot yet, but I truly hope she can do more than what we have seen so far. They did cast Ezra Miller for what I'm really excited about, he is super talented.

Kristen Stewart in the smaller films she has done like Still Alice is not just suitable she is exceptional. Maybe she was bad in the early part of her career in those twilight movies but she is way better now.

She's a pretty good actress when she gets to work with the right material, but she's also incredibly unprofessional when it comes to roles that she's not interested in. Her bored pouting on stuff like Twilight and Snow White is not only about the anemic characters, but it's genuinely her standing there stoned, not giving a damn, and that's not a good quality in an actor.

 

[Patchwork Man]

Absolutely spectacular trailer. Gal is the perfect Diana. And if her acting via the trailer hasn't convinced you, watch the movie and give her a chance. I was sold on her from the moment she was cast.

Her accent doesn't bother me in the slightest. It actually suspends my suspension of belief even further into believing she's from a Paradise world. Her looks and charm really bring it all together. Gal looks great in the suit and pulls that off almost flawlessly. If they give her a good range of scenes to show the top end of her acting ability, then I think it would be easy to win over the nay-sayers if everything else comes together. When it comes to this project in the latest DCEU, the seed of skepticism was already planted a long time ago (Gal's acting) so I'm not surprised people will continue to leech off of that until proven otherwise (especially the jaded fans.)

All this. Her features. Her accent. Her statuesque height. Her shout! She's Wonder Woman. It's obvious why they cast her. Sure, they could've gotten a "better" actress who wouldn't have been the slightest bit believable in the role.

Well, I'm off to watch the trailer again!

 

[Sleiek]

Why? The visual style of the actions scenes of both MoS and BvS are reminiscent to that of the TF movies - A lot of CGI (incomprehensible at times), destruction and style over substance.

I enjoy the action in those. That doesn't mean that it is good. I take it for what it is - just some stylish and relaxing action to enjoy on a Saturday/Sunday evening. But far from the masterpiece that some people are making it out to be.

WW looks much better (in terms of action), although you can still see rubber faces in close-up action shots. MoS's action suffered (heavily) from this and make it look cheap and fake.

I don't know there is nothing better than seeing Superman and Zod punching the crap out of each other. That is exactly what I ask for when watching these movies. What else do you ask for, I have no idea. Some people just like unnatural superpowered fighting battles. If you like real practical grounded fights, not a problem. I love the Batman warehouse fight but he is a man.

 

[Legendver2]

In regards to the MCU actors, aside from RDJ, pretty much all their leading actors/heroes are mediocre actors at best. It's their surrounding cast that's made up of high calibur actors/actresses and award winners. Hemsworth is surrounded by Hopkins, Russo, Portman. You have Glenn Close in a side role in GotG. Evans had Tommy Lee, Tucci, Weaving. Then you got Sam Jackson as support in over half the films.

Same with DCEU at the moment. Cavill, at least in the DCEU, hasn't shown his full range like he did in Tudors, but he's surrounded by Diane Lane, Shannon, Costner, Amy Adams. Now we have Gadot, who's performances in her previous films were serviceable for what they were supposed to be, supported by Pine, Wright, Nielson. It's all about the supporting cast really if you think about it. It seems Batman, at least in modern times, is the only one consistently getting a high calibur actor for the hero and support, with Bale and all the other players in TDK, and now Affleck and Irons in DCEU.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I'm gifing the trailer and I cannot with that dude in the background:

!!!!!

This needs to become a meme. Like NOW.

Anyway, I liked the trailer for the most part. The cinematography is especially gorgeous. Some of the fight choreography, stunts and special effects look a little... off, but I'll reserve judgment until I see the film. As for Gadot's acting, I think she comes off okay, though given how much people scrutinized every single one of Henry Cavill's (very few) lines in BvS, I suppose it's only fair to apply the same scrutiny to any actor in a CBM.

 

[#root]

Visually it looks stunning . But so far all the DC flicks had great trailers but were disappointments in the end. Really hope this breaks that trend. I desperately want WW to be a good film. Hope Gal does a decent enough job.

 

[Predator jp]

In regards to the MCU actors, aside from RDJ, pretty much all their leading actors/heroes are mediocre actors at best. It's their surrounding cast that's made up of high calibur actors/actresses and award winners. Hemsworth is surrounded by Hopkins, Russo, Portman. You have Glenn Close in a side role in GotG. Evans had Tommy Lee, Tucci, Weaving. Then you got Sam Jackson as support in over half the films.

Same with DCEU at the moment. Cavill, at least in the DCEU, hasn't shown his full range like he did in Tudors, but he's surrounded by Diane Lane, Shannon, Costner, Amy Adams. Now we have Gadot, who's performances in her previous films were serviceable for what they were supposed to be, supported by Pine, Wright, Nielson. It's all about the supporting cast really if you think about it. It seems Batman, at least in modern times, is the only one consistently getting a high calibur actor for the hero and support, with Bale and all the other players in TDK, and now Affleck and Irons in DCEU.

Ezra Miller is an incredible as well.

 

[Ardyns]

I don't know there is nothing better than seeing Superman and Zod punching the crap out of each other. That is exactly what I ask for when watching these movies. What else do you ask for, I have no idea. Some people just like unnatural superpowered fighting battles. If you like real practical grounded fights, not a problem. I love the Batman warehouse fight but he is a man.

Absolutely. That's the beauty of Kryptonian battles.

 

[moviefreak]

The original Golden Age, proudly rotund chocolate-loving Etta Candy was always a comic-relief sidekick to Wonder Woman. Her family were all sweet themed -- Hard Candy, Sugar Candy, and a brother called Mint Candy. lol

 

[Juan1193]

That trailer was epic!! I'm even more excited to see this movie than I was before! Here's hoping it is a both a critical and financial hit!! The DCEU could use the former!

 

[KillerWolf]

Given that we know the identity of at least one villain, shouldn't we have a Doctor Poison thread now? I mean, it's all but confirmed that is the character Elena Anaya plays:

 

[TheComicbookKid]

This feel like it will be an nice in the park home run.


I'm not sure what the WB will think. Squad made 700 with bad reviews so if this does 400 with but is the first positive reviewed DC film?

 

[TeeKay]

In regards to the MCU actors, aside from RDJ, pretty much all their leading actors/heroes are mediocre actors at best. It's their surrounding cast that's made up of high calibur actors/actresses and award winners. Hemsworth is surrounded by Hopkins, Russo, Portman. You have Glenn Close in a side role in GotG. Evans had Tommy Lee, Tucci, Weaving. Then you got Sam Jackson as support in over half the films.

Same with DCEU at the moment. Cavill, at least in the DCEU, hasn't shown his full range like he did in Tudors, but he's surrounded by Diane Lane, Shannon, Costner, Amy Adams. Now we have Gadot, who's performances in her previous films were serviceable for what they were supposed to be, supported by Pine, Wright, Nielson. It's all about the supporting cast really if you think about it. It seems Batman, at least in modern times, is the only one consistently getting a high calibur actor for the hero and support, with Bale and all the other players in TDK, and now Affleck and Irons in DCEU.

Benefict Cumberbatch is a mediocre actor? Chadwick Boseman, Brie Olsen?????

 

[Bagide]

Umm if she does flies in this, why didn't she fly in the DD battle??

Super vertical jump maybe

 

[LoganGambit87]

man this film may be the most gorgeous dc film to date those sweeping shots!!

 

[Captain Shazam]

So now we know she flies, I loved it!