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[legendkillin]

At a certain point, the lack of consequences just forces you to not take the storyline seriously.

I swear Vought's stock has "tanked" about a million times in 3 seasons, yet it's just business as usual.

haha probably because what does stock matter when a guy can kill all the stock people in a second? His power can probably manipulate the market.

 

[LoganGambit87]

interested where A-Train is gonna end up next season

 

[Iceman]

interested where A-Train is gonna end up next season

He seems genuinely conflicted and has moved on as a character. I think he’ll be more prepared to make big moves next season than he has before.

 

[Iceman]

haha probably because what does stock matter when a guy can kill all the stock people in a second? His power can probably manipulate the market.

If this were a real company it would probably have one of the most volatile stock prices as a matter of course. Imagine analysts having to price in risk for that place and the temperament of Homelander.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Sums it up pretty well lol

 

[Steyin]

A whole season only to be back at square one. Meh. Feels like very little progression honestly.

 

[Albright]

...just like a certain someone in real life.

true

 

[Sithborg]

A whole season only to be back at square one. Meh. Feels like very little progression honestly.

Guess it depends on your definition of progression. Sure, in a lot of ways, the team is in a worse position than the end of season 2. But on the other hand, so many of the characters are in different emotional places as well. And I think that is kind of what I loved most about season 3, how character focused it was.

Things to keep in mind, I doubt Kripke has this planned for more than 5 seasons.

 

[Zarex]

One of my other favorite shows, Succession, is often the recipient of the same criticism that nobody on the show really changes and the bad guys who run the world never get what's coming to them. Sadly, that is often an accurate reflection of our world. The fantastic characters on both shows keep me watching, and I am especially interested in seeing how the shifts in the status quo for Annie, Victoria, Ryan and Butcher play out.

 

[henzINNIT]

I must admit I too felt a little deflated by the finale. It lacked something truly transformative to push things over the top. I didn't want something terrible to happen, but did feel that everyone got off easy to an extent. The bigger shifts in the finale seemed to be based on the less prominant elements of the season, and the core tensions amounted to less. It'll make the wait for season 4 easier though, ha.

 

[legendkillin]

I wouldn't say all the characters and the story is the same as when it started.

Starlight is now just Annie officially brought some people into the light of seeing Vought as evil.

Deep was riding high but he has fallen back to himself.

A-Train no longer on deaths door from what we are told and may finally change.

Maeve

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no longer has powers done on the show.

Ryan

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no longer wants what he mom wished for, he has turned to Homelander for love.

The team

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they are more together now and seems like each will have some kind of voice instead of just Butcher running the show.

 

[Zarex]

At some point I could see Kripke and his team doing a homage to the final battle in the TDKR comic, with Annie causing a city wide power outage in order to slug it out with Homelander.

 

[Iceman]

I think anything can happen in the final season but they don't want to throw out their biggest assets before then.

 

[Prison Mike]

I was happy to read that Kripke has plans for

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Soldier Boy to return before the end of the series

 

[3rdstone]

This finale wasn't maybe perfect, but absolutely good enough for me. As a whole a great season which makes me still wanna watch future seasons (even though I hope they don't drag it out, one or maximum two more seasons would be my wish. Then they can do various spinoffs, prequels, reboots or other cra- ..err, stuff. Whatever lol).

I feel like in this show all the gore and shocking value could've have felt old quickly if the rest wasn't up to it. But considering how great the characters are, everything (still that is) works for me. The serious emotional parts always works as well, whitout getting too sentimental. This has been a great show during all these seasons IMHO, and hopefully it keeps up the great work.

Most people here have already pointed out all the interesting - good or lesser good - stuff here. When it comes to Meave vs Homelander..

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I've always felt that HL vs Meave would be like if Supes and Wondy would hit it off, since it seems showrunners (and original comic books I assume) were mimicking them close in terms of powers.

And as badass and awesome amazon goddess-like warrior as Wondy is, I'd always assume she'd still loose against Superman in an hypothetic serious dark gritty fight to the death, unless she might've outsmarted him somehow, or kryptonite, or magic etc (that said, I've stayed away from Injustice and similar stories. Maybe that happened there?).

Hence why I'm always been worried this would be happening from season one, and Meave would be killed off too soon (since I liked that character).

Here Meave showed how strong and badass she is, and gave HL some serius beatings and somewhat damage. Even though I was expecting him to finally win the fight (but that gross eye goughing was.. unexpected), I was constantly hoplessly cheering for her lol.

But since Anthony Starr embodies such an excellent unpredictable scaring villian disguised in superhero clads, we of course don't wanna lose him soon. In the final season though I'd love to see Meave take him out once for all. Well that is, if she ever gets her powers back.

 

[TheVileOne]

I found the Season 3 finale rather anti-climactic. I just kind of feel we are rehashing the Ryan story from season 2 all over again. Like we went down this road with Ryan before and they repeated it all over again. I get that Ryan is feeling upset and lonely and abandoned by his surrogate father in Butcher, but Ryan also soundly rejected Homelander in the second season.

Secondly, I don't like the Ryan character or subplot. This is one change from the comics I didn't understand or agree with. I never liked the idea that Becca was still alive and raised Homelander's child in like a supermax isolated prison habitat.

I kind of don't like anyone now either. Huey is kind of a wishy washy crybaby who won't man up and make a decision.

Annie is a moron as she continued to work for Vought despite knowing how horrible and vile they are and continued going to work with Homelander, despite the fact that he threatened to basically murder her and assaulted her and I dunno, thought she could change them for the better or some nonsense.

Newsflash, if Annie wants to be a real superhero and actually help people, she doesn't need Vought's assistance to fight crime. To me, it just seemed like Annie deep down liked the adulation, attention and money that being a Vought superhero and part of the Seven brought her.

Payoff to Black Noir kind of sucked and was also anti-climactic. I was always kind of nervous and confused about the change to Black Noir's identity. It felt like they were finally going somewhere with Black Noir's identity and backstory. For it to come to this was an absolute waste of time. All that build-up for nothing. Reminds me of the worst parts of Marvel Netflix.

Thus far, I think the show kind of peaked in Season 2. There was some good, interesting stuff this season, but I think the story is getting too overwrought and also repetitive. They are just spinning their wheels until they can get to the end.

I think the only character I really like is Frenchie because he seemed to at least stand up for himself and reached some kind of catharsis this season. Out of all the cast members this season, Frenchie seemed to be the only un-selfish person trying to help his friends.

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After all that, they just put Soldier Boy back to sleep when they were the ones who ****ing freed him in the first place.

Virtually no consequences for Huey for his part in what happened this season. A lot of innocent people died due to his actions and inactions.

Huey is just as big of a scumbag as Homelander and Soldier Boy, if not worse.

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And Annie stayed with him after all that? Marvin's wife rightfully let him after he went back to the life he said he wouldn't.

Just seems like they ignored the Victoria problem this whole season as well.

 

[TheVileOne]

Guess it depends on your definition of progression. Sure, in a lot of ways, the team is in a worse position than the end of season 2. But on the other hand, so many of the characters are in different emotional places as well. And I think that is kind of what I loved most about season 3, how character focused it was.

Things to keep in mind, I doubt Kripke has this planned for more than 5 seasons.

To me the only real points of progression:

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* Butcher is terminally ill due to compound V
* Maeve no longer has her powers and can finally settle down and have a life with her girlfriend
* Annie has left Vought and now works for The Boys unit
* I guess Marvin has found some peace was able to be honest with his daughter? He didn't really get justice for his family.
* Black Noir is dead (stupid)

 

[Primal Slayer]

With this series likely ending after S5 (Kripke tends to have a plan) I really think they should've de-powered Homelander at the end of this season, have him hide behind his kid before it's revealed that Soldier Boys effects aren't permanent mid-season.

 

[TheVileOne]

Wasn't Supernatural supposed to end after five seasons? I remember reading that years ago.

 

[Prison Mike]

Yeah the original plan was for 5 seasons. I respect Kripke for bowing out after finishing his vision and handing the reigns to someone else

 

[Sithborg]

To me the only real points of progression:

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* Butcher is terminally ill due to compound V
* Maeve no longer has her powers and can finally settle down and have a life with her girlfriend
* Annie has left Vought and now works for The Boys unit
* I guess Marvin has found some peace was able to be honest with his daughter? He didn't really get justice for his family.
* Black Noir is dead (stupid)

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A-train is in an interesting place. His story can do in a lot of different directions. But, he is in a lot more sympathetic place, imo, as he seems to have fully understood why he was wrong in the past.

Deep is still the Deep. Unlike A-train, he didn't learn anything from his ordeals. Still, will always enjoy him getting **** on.

The entire dynamic of The Boys has changed. Butcher's hold on them is no longer there. He is less in command than he is allowed to be there. And really, his diagnosis only really a timeline on the remaining seasons.

Homelander was beaten down at the end of Season 2. Now, he is empowered. But the Ryan factor is interesting. We literally had the two sides of Homelander fighting with himself, over being loved and just being a monster who does whatever he wants. How we are going to get President Homelander is going to be interesting to watch

Not to mention, we were introduced to the most vile new character. The character I hate the most out of this full cast. Who I hope Kripke has planned a most outrageous death.

TODD

Wasn't Supernatural supposed to end after five seasons? I remember reading that years ago.

Yeah, Kripke did his 5 seasons and got out. And considering Amazon is looking at spinoffs, I'm Kripke will do his 5 seasons and move on.

 

[TheVileOne]

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A-train is in an interesting place. His story can do in a lot of different directions. But, he is in a lot more sympathetic place, imo, as he seems to have fully understood why he was wrong in the past.

Deep is still the Deep. Unlike A-train, he didn't learn anything from his ordeals. Still, will always enjoy him getting **** on.

The entire dynamic of The Boys has changed. Butcher's hold on them is no longer there. He is less in command than he is allowed to be there. And really, his diagnosis only really a timeline on the remaining seasons.

Homelander was beaten down at the end of Season 2. Now, he is empowered. But the Ryan factor is interesting. We literally had the two sides of Homelander fighting with himself, over being loved and just being a monster who does whatever he wants. How we are going to get President Homelander is going to be interesting to watch

Not to mention, we were introduced to the most vile new character. The character I hate the most out of this full cast. Who I hope Kripke has planned a most outrageous death.

TODD

I'm sure Todd will get what's coming to him at some point. He's expendable.

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I mean the dynamic hasn't changed that much. Butcher never had that strong of a hold on them before. Keep in mind Season 2 had Hughie leaving The Boys. Now he's back with them and back with Butcher, which ...I mean ****, Hughie should be in ****ing jail right now, and so should Butcher for that matter.

Hughie and Butcher were parties to and complicit to multiple acts of pre-meditated murder and manslaughter. They should be behind bars.

Annie staying with Hughie is total bullcrap as well.

 

[Steyin]

They also wasted the opportunity of using Dua Lipa

 

[DarkShadow10]

I was happy to read that Kripke has plans for

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Soldier Boy to return before the end of the series

Where did you hear this please…?

 

[Prison Mike]

Where did you hear this please…?

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