The Dark Knight Rises And why do we fall, bruce?

[Rockadood]

So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

Foreshadowing?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Nah.

 

[SuperFerret]

Foreshadowing?

Nope.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I don't think it was deliberate foreshadowing at the time - I don't think Nolan or Goyer was thinking that far ahead - but I wouldn't be surprised if that quote is revisied in this final film as one of the ways of bringing the series full circle.

 

[GothamAlleys]

Definitely not foreshadowing. It was a theme that run in BB, and wasnt used or mentioned in TDK. Its in BB that Bruce falls many times throughout his life but manages to still get up. Plus it was something that his father used o tell him. That quote is heavily tied to the story of BB

 

[Ipodman]

Is this a new meme?

Alfred mentioned that the batman suit could defend him against cats... thats foreshadowing about catwoman

 

[Wolverine1988]

I definetley see this line coming back into play for this movie,

This line wasn't mentioned in TDK because it wasn't needed, in this one i could totally see Batman sitting in the new bat cave and remembering his father say this line than getting up in some epic pose than going to suit up in the bat suit, THAT WOULD BE EPIC!

 

[GothamAlleys]

I definetley see this line coming back into play for this movie,

This line wasn't mentioned in TDK because it wasn't needed,

I think it was needed even more than in the first. When he failed to save Rachel, when he failed to capture Joker and many people died because of him, when he failed to save Dent

 

[El Payaso]

I hope we can remember this line because it's happening not because they - most probably Goyer - will write it again and again so we 'get it.'

 

[Wolverine1988]

I think it was needed even more than in the first. When he failed to save Rachel, when he failed to capture Joker and many people died because of him, when he failed to save Dent

Exactly, except these factos result in him falling setting him to rise in the third movie, other wise whats the point of titling the movie Rises?

The whole point was him realzing he is what gotham needs him to be and he has to take the murders to save Dents legacy so Gotham doesn't lose hope.

Wouldn't make sense to be shown in the second one, in the third one is Batman "Rising", there fore he has to get back up after falling at the end of TDK

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Maybe instead of Gordon, Batman can monologue the ending saying that the most important lesson he learnt was to pick himself up every time he fell

 

[GothamAlleys]

Exactly, except these factos result in him falling setting him to rise in the third movie, other wise whats the point of titling the movie Rises?

The whole point was him realzing he is what gotham needs him to be and he has to take the murders to save Dents legacy so Gotham doesn't lose hope.

Wouldn't make sense to be shown in the second one, in the third one is Batman "Rising", there fore he has to get back up after falling at the end of TDK

But I think the perfect moment for it would be after Rachel's death

 

[Hole Shot]

I don't think it was deliberate foreshadowing at the time - I don't think Nolan or Goyer was thinking that far ahead - but I wouldn't be surprised if that quote is revisied in this final film as one of the ways of bringing the series full circle.

I agree, doubt they wrote that line with the intention of tieing back into the title almost a decade later. But when they came up with that the currently title they likely did have that line in mind.

So for those of you that don't like the current title, be grateful they shortened up from: The Dark Knight Picks Himself Back Up

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

"And why do we fall Bruce?"

it's funny. i can picture the trailer starting off with this

 

[thedrizzle59]

Should have been titled: Gotham Rises. Batman didnt fall, he was the one who let himself take the fall for the murders. He could have just said f*** that and let Harvey take the blame. He let himself fall, which to me doesnt seem like he really fell. The city should find out the truth in the 3rd movie and by the end overcome adversity and rise above failure.

 

[Rockadood]

I didn't realise that Micah's comment was a dig at me. Oh well, I just thought that line from BB was poignant and could possibly re-appear in Rises.

 

[Cordoba]

I could see the whole 'why do we fall' malarkey being utilised in the film at some point. But I maintain that there will be a poignant moment or act in the film that will make the audience think 'so that's there the title came from'.

 

[Naite22]

I need to write this. I think the sentence "Why do we fall Bruce - so we can learn to pick our selves up", is very beautiful and pure. I also think it would be an amazing sentence to use ones again in the final chapter. As a voice-over from a scene where Bruce/batman is visiting his parents grave, maybe?... It would also be a great reminder and a good "tie-up" to the first movie (where it all started) - which would ALSO give a great sensation of them tying the whole trilogy up.

I wish they would have used a simple "trick" like this in spidey 3! Spidey goes "dark", and "badass". They could've had a scene in that movie, of spidey swinging around the city, while a certain voice-over, from a certain Green Goblin said "In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you - why bother!?". That would have made for a GREAT tie-up to the first movie, and would've also made for a great "homage" to the first movie, even making sense in the context of the third movie. It would'nt have saved it, I know! But it would have been so fitting. Guess Sam Raimi couldn't even think that far ahead, hmm...

Back to bats though