The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[Jexx]

Err.. no..

I don't blame my mother for anything. But she didn't leave me expecting to live.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

So you blame him/her for dying?

Peter probably thinks that they never would've died if they wouldn't have left. Look, we know that Peter's parents are not bad people because it's told to us, but all Peter knows is that they left, and died in a plane crash when they left

 

[Gianakin_]

Err.. no..

I don't blame my mother for anything. But she didn't leave me expecting to live.

So we're in agreement. Richard and Mary meant to leave Peter for a finite amount of time. They die unexpectedly. Now Pete blames them. Isn't it unfair? That's my point. Wouldn't his accusation hold more ground if Sony had decided to not include the newspaper excerpts which made their fate conclusive?

 

[Jexx]

It's not really unfair, because, yes, they may of lived if they stayed in New York and didn't leave.

 

[Gianakin_]

And one of them may have died of a heart attack regardless. They didn't leave to die, or permanently (that we know of). Still, Pete blames them. Death's inevitability, imo, deprives Pete of that right.

 

[Jexx]

What? Pete didn't blame them for dying, he blamed them for leaving in the first place.

 

[Gianakin_]

You don't ask "Where is he?" without ignoring the obvious fact that they're dead. That's why I'm saying if they hadn't inserted the newspaper excerpts that line would've made sense and would've been extra powerful.

 

[Jexx]

Meh.. tis true.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

well yeah... but to me it's not worth the nitpick. Not saying one couldn't complain about it though

 

[bapi]

I was really dissapointed that a lot of scenes were green-screens, they really didn't work outside so much. So they basically didn't use NYC at all. And visuals were boring. (500)DoS were so fresh and everything but TASM is just fake and boring. Sorry.

 

[Gianakin_]

well yeah... but to me it's not worth the nitpick. Not saying one couldn't complain about it though

I disagree that it's a nitpick, because it's tied to what drives Pete as a character and his response also kickstarts the series of events that lead to Ben's death.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I disagree that it's a nitpick, because it's tied to what drives Pete as a character and his response also kickstarts the series of events that lead to Ben's death.

hmm... but it worked for me

In the scene I DID feel that Peter was out of line, that he's being unfair saying those things, but that's kinda why I feel it works

 

[Jexx]

I was really dissapointed that a lot of scenes were green-screens, they really didn't work outside so much. So they basically didn't use NYC at all. And visuals were boring. (500)DoS were so fresh and everything but TASM is just fake and boring. Sorry.

why are you apologizing for voicing your opinion?

 

[Gianakin_]

hmm... but it worked for me

In the scene I DID feel that Peter was out of line, that he's being unfair saying those things, but that's kinda why I feel it works

No, no, it's fine if it worked for you. All I'm saying is that it's not a nitpick, it's a pivotal part in the movie, plot and character-wise.

 

[El Payaso]

So we're in agreement. Richard and Mary meant to leave Peter for a finite amount of time. They die unexpectedly. Now Pete blames them. Isn't it unfair? That's my point. Wouldn't his accusation hold more ground if Sony had decided to not include the newspaper excerpts which made their fate conclusive?

Mh, it's like human psyche didn't work based on intellectual or reasonable standards.

 

[bapi]

why are you apologizing for voicing your opinion?

I didn't want any fanboys to overreact...

 

[Jexx]

...so people who like the movie are automatically fanboys?
Now I understand why you apologized.

 

[The Guard]

Peter asking why his father isn't there IS unfair. That's the whole point of the moment. He's basically saying, "It's not fair that my father isn't here". It's a sound psychological moment, and its doubly powerful because he's rejecting Uncle Ben as a father figure in that moment. It doesn't matter if he's being illogical about what happened...that's not his issue.

I mean, in TASM, Peter walked in the middle of what looked like a spider pit/haven thingy (like you said) with no proper protection and was bitten ... What did he expect? Derp.

On the other hand, its a little more plausible than a single genetically engineered superspider magically escaping to bite him.

 

[Jexx]

It's the spider-gods I tell you.

 

[Just one more]

Ok, most spiders aren't agressive, especially the small ones. Besides, Peter is probably smart enough to know that those spiders aren't venomous.

I am from Australia mate and I can tell you there are more than a few aggressive spiders down here hahaha.

You see, when people breed animals for scientific stuff, they make it so they cannot produce venom

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Generalise much?

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Uncle Ben's death. Thought they could've done a little more there
The crane scene at the end.
The lack of the Connors family

 

[Doc Ock]

The lack of the Connors family

Excellent point that really bothered me through the whole film. I kept wondering if he had a wife and son.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I am from Australia mate and I can tell you there are more than a few aggressive spiders down here hahaha.

Oh, well then I understand you. But in further north spiders aren't really animals one has to be concerned with

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Generalise much?

Yeah a little, but why would they breed these spiders (what are made to produce web for the biocables) so that they could produce venom? You can't honestly say that I don't have a good point

 

[avpjunkie]

In general, I liked ASM (not more than the original trilogy) but here are things that I didn't like...

Spoiler

1. virtually every significant character knows Peter is Spider-man, I guess secret identity doesn't exist in this universe.

2. the cranes lining up to help Spidey... way too unbelievable and too contrived, it didn't inspire any emotion from me of New Yorker spirit and there's no way someone could spontaneously coordinate all that in such a short time.

3. Gwen being such a smart person and working at Oscorp, but she wears a short skirt and go go boots(or were they long stockings?). I didn't buy it. Also, believing Gwen would even be dating Flash, no way.

4. Flash served no purpose, if all his scenes were cut, you wouldn't miss him at all. In fact, the movie would be better for it.

5. Peter (or Sean Garfield) seemed to be trying too hard to be the geek and an outcast. I grew up as a geek and an outcast and I didn't relate to this Peter at all.

6. The lizard wanting to change everyone into lizards, why oh why? I did like the part where the lizard was trying to stop the guy (forgot his name) on the bridge from testing the serum on patients at the veterans hospital, but then I didn't like how the lizard just basically decided to do the same thing later on to the whole city (or human race?) with this "improve humanity" by changing them into lizards plot.

7. Uncle ben's death. Why did he decide to look for Peter, late at night, in a big city like New York on foot? Ben felt Peter was safe coming home late, but when Peter takes off to be alone for a while, Ben somehow feels that he has to run out after Peter and find him. Why not just wait until Peter came back home after calming down?

8. It looked like Peter had no good friends his age outside of Gwen and Flash(?). I might have missed some randomly placed friends in the movie, but I don't remember them.

9. Peter's parents acted liked they worked for the same program Jason Bourne was a part of. Super Spy family? like Spy Kids?

10. Why would Peter design such a corny Red and Blue costume in ASM? Were those his favorite colors? He certainly wasn't doing it for a wrestling costume. I know he stared at the luchadore mask on the wall, but what did it mean to him in the story? why didn't he choose black to be cool?

Whew! i'm done, I probably could nitpick more, but like I said, I did generally like the movie, but not more than's Raimi's trilogy.

 

[Visualiza]

In general, I liked ASM (not more than the original trilogy) but here are things that I didn't like...

Spoiler

1. virtually every significant character knows Peter is Spider-man, I guess secret identity doesn't exist in this universe.

2. the cranes lining up to help Spidey... way too unbelievable and too contrived, it didn't inspire any emotion from me of New Yorker spirit and there's no way someone could spontaneously coordinate all that in such a short time.

3. Gwen being such a smart person and working at Oscorp, but she wears a short skirt and go go boots(or were they long stockings?). I didn't buy it. Also, believing Gwen would even be dating Flash, no way.

4. Flash served no purpose, if all his scenes were cut, you wouldn't miss him at all. In fact, the movie would be better for it.

5. Peter (or Sean Garfield) seemed to be trying too hard to be the geek and an outcast. I grew up as a geek and an outcast and I didn't relate to this Peter at all.

6. The lizard wanting to change everyone into lizards, why oh why? I did like the part where the lizard was trying to stop the guy (forgot his name) on the bridge from testing the serum on patients at the veterans hospital, but then I didn't like how the lizard just basically decided to do the same thing later on to the whole city (or human race?) with this "improve humanity" by changing them into lizards plot.

7. Uncle ben's death. Why did he decide to look for Peter, late at night, in a big city like New York on foot? Ben felt Peter was safe coming home late, but when Peter takes off to be alone for a while, Ben somehow feels that he has to run out after Peter and find him. Why not just wait until Peter came back home after calming down?

8. It looked like Peter had no good friends his age outside of Gwen and Flash(?). I might have missed some randomly placed friends in the movie, but I don't remember them.

9. Peter's parents acted liked they worked for the same program Jason Bourne was a part of. Super Spy family? like Spy Kids?

10. Why would Peter design such a corny Red and Blue costume in ASM? Were those his favorite colors? He certainly wasn't doing it for a wrestling costume. I know he stared at the luchadore mask on the wall, but what did it mean to him in the story? why didn't he choose black to be cool?

Whew! i'm done, I probably could nitpick more, but like I said, I did generally like the movie, but not more than's Raimi's trilogy.

Was Gwen dating Flash in this movie? It didn't seem so to me, but I may have missed something.