The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[Zimmy]

Racist.

Huh? Raimi's kids show up in SM2 & 3 and they are white as lillies.
Unless I missed the joke.

Another small thing I didn't like.

In Raimi's film, they showed how he could climb walls (the tiny barbs in his fingers) in ASM, you are supposed to not ask about it I guess.

 

[El Payaso]

Huh? Raimi's kids show up in SM2 & 3 and they are white as lillies.
Unless I missed the joke.

Another small thing I didn't like.

In Raimi's film, they showed how he could climb walls (the tiny barbs in his fingers) in ASM, you are supposed to not ask about it I guess.

The little hairs made no sense whatsoever.

 

[The Guard]

The little hairs made perfect sense. That's how spiders actually do it.

Huh? Raimi's kids show up in SM2 & 3 and they are white as lillies.
Unless I missed the joke

Ah. I was unaware of that.

I thought you were talking about the children of various races/ethnicities that Spider-Man rescues throughout the trilogy.

A joke in poor taste, but I couldn't resist.

 

[bullets]

I didn't like how they changed Uncle Bens killer from being the Sandman. Stop messing with the origin.

lol

The antidote in gas form and when precipitated is what cured the swat team. Also, it underscores what Connors told Peter earlier about how the galena (sp?) machine could pretty much cure certain diseases in a single afternoon.

I know , it was just easier to say rain. It doesn't ruin the film but I felt like it could of been left out.

 

[Eddie Brock]

So...how many cops know spider-mans secret identity?I think like 4, it's not life Dennis Leary was the only guy there and kudos for using the full name when you address him.

The movie had some editing problems and he used his powers far too much out of costume

He was a bad Spider-man.like he was bad at being Spider-man he spent most of the movie attacking Blonde dudes, getting his ass kicked by the lizard and crying.

There were no conscious police officers within earshot when Captain Stacy said Peter's name. Peter saw to that.

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

Maybe it was just me, by I felt a less personal connection to Peter in this movie than in the previous trilogy. One of the things I liked about the first movie (SM1) was that Peter narrated his life. I agree, it made the movie seem more corny, but in the end I felt more saddened when Uncle Ben died in Spider-Man 1.

Peter and Gwen's relationship was definitely more developed but not as much as I had hoped. Seeing 500 Days of Summer convinced me that Webb can make a great love (or anti-love) story, but Sony probably strayed him from doing so.

 

[Drummerdude7]

There were no conscious police officers within earshot when Captain Stacy said Peter's name. Peter saw to that.

Yeah, he kept his head down the entire time and kicked the crap out of every officer in the vicinity at lightning speed. Even Captain Stacy wouldn't have known it was him if he didn't train a gun on Peter.

 

[X Knight]

Maybe it was just me, by I felt a less personal connection to Peter in this movie than in the previous trilogy. One of the things I liked about the first movie (SM1) was that Peter narrated his life. I agree, it made the movie seem more corny, but in the end I felt more saddened when Uncle Ben died in Spider-Man 1.

Peter and Gwen's relationship was definitely more developed but not as much as I had hoped. Seeing 500 Days of Summer convinced me that Webb can make a great love (or anti-love) story, but Sony probably strayed him from doing so.

I agree. I literally felt 0 connection to any of the characters, with the exception of Uncle Ben and Gwen.

But, even then, I didn't find myself particularly moved when Ben died or Capt. Stacy died.

And I found myself getting kind of bored whenever Peter and Gwen were trying to romance each other. I kept thinking, "hurry up and get to the fight scenes so I can see Spidey in action."

 

[Ajendo]

And why can't Spider-Man easily run faster than a world class sprinter?

Eh? He is faster than a world class sprinter. However, spider-man shouldn't be running at all, that being said, the only time I recall him running on this movie was after he had been tased, fallen from a considerable height and then shot/grazed in the leg so naturally he isn't going to be Husein Bolting it across the rooftops.

 

[X Knight]

he ran after the police starting chasing him after the carjack scene.

he ran after the truck and then hopped into it.

that did look a little out of place for Spidey, cuz he could have easily just jumped onto the truck.

 

[roach]

he ran after the police starting chasing him after the carjack scene.

he ran after the truck and then hopped into it.

that did look a little out of place for Spidey, cuz he could have easily just jumped onto the truck.

he should have been able to jump over the truck

 

[Prophet924]

I feel like this editing thing is getting people all riled for no reason. This kinda thing happens all the time in movies. I agree there are some weird jumps and pacing issues in the movie due to the editing, but I think it's a stretch for anyone to say they felt cheated... I didn't feel cheated by Dick Donner's Superman because it didn't make me believe a man could fly

First off...

Whoooo hoooo! Web shooters baby!!! I love the look! I love the sound they made! I want some!!!

I am a bit bummed out that the webbing is an Oscorp thing. However until more of the untold story is told, I'm gonna believe that Pete is reclaiming part of his heritage. I mean there had to be some device in mind to deploy that biocable which was being put in small cartridges. That is for later. Just giddy to have that ultra cool device on camera.

You are right us fans get these moments of entitlement and claim we were cheated when we have these feelings of disappointment. That plus the Internet gives us super human powers of criticism. With great power...

That said the spirit of this thread is to sound off. Boy did I want to after seeing for first time. It was that same feeling of being wisked through a second act of a film like Sam Raimi did with the Green Goblin. I was miffed at the end of the film. I hated the lumbering smiling dinosaur the Luzard was portrayed as. It was never scary and I kept hoping it would be killed off like all other villains. No family no real relationship with Peter. Meh let it die. I at least cared a little more for the Goblin. Only a little...

In general the film was so packed with tiny two minute snippets it was hard to get invested. Loved when the film slowed down.

So after seeing for a third time I went searching for any info on the film. I came back to check out the Hype only to see so many cool things that fell to the editing floor. It's a shame. The film is good. There are aspects mor Spidey like than previous. But the film is like a cake taken out too early. It needed some more backing.

The world around Peter just flashed before our eyes. It is definitely different enough from Sam's vision that it should not have been glossed over. Yes I understand that there are some inevitable familiarities. Don't shy from them. Give them some time.

The trailer that had the Lizard voice over, "You want the truth about your parents Peter? Cone and get it!" that trailer had the hairs on the back of my neck on edge. I just didn't get the wow I was hoping for.

So many of the same things mentioned took away from this being awesome. But I choose to give Sony and company another shot. Will they get to telling the untold story? I hope so. There us just this thing nagging at back of my head. These guys were the same dudes constantly butting heads with Marvel to hold onto their Spider-man gold. I hope good stories are not the casualty.

Oh and I totally believed a man could fly after Superman. Never saw anything like that on screen before. bring on the untold tale!!!

Thwipp!

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

I feel like I'm nitpicking at this point but I had one more minor critique:

I loved the fact that Peter used contacts. It was very appropriate and modern for him to do so. But after he starts using his father's glasses, he uses them for a little bit and wears them on/off since. I thought it would be more symbolic of him wearing his father's glasses but it wasn't always consistent.

Another thing was the 1st POV shots... which I thought were awesome. Whenever they were used, they added a lot to the action. My only nitpick would be that instead of using little snippets of the teaser trailer scene, they should have used that entire sequence to introduce "Spider-Man", in costume, for the first time.

Also, a 1st person scene with Spidey fighting Lizard would have been great too.

 

[Ajendo]

he ran after the police starting chasing him after the carjack scene.

he ran after the truck and then hopped into it.

that did look a little out of place for Spidey, cuz he could have easily just jumped onto the truck.

Oh yes, you're right. Lol and to think I've seen this film 4 times already.

 

[Drummerdude7]

I wish the scene where Spidey is being chased by police had him run out of webbing. As in, he used it all up embarrassing the carjacker. Woulda made a lot more sense as to why he's running/climbing instead of simply web swinging away.

 

[Webhead38]

I thought the movie was good, but I did have some issues:

1) When Capt Stacy is dying I thought they should have used his lines from the comic telling Peter to take care of Gwen. It would have registered more appropriate than telling Pete to leave her out of it. Given Gwen's fate and Pete's decision to ignore her father's dying request, really puts the writers in an awkward situation if they decide to pursue the comic storyline and have the Goblin kill her off. Because if she dies, it will be because Parker chose to involve her. That will not register well no matter how they decide to justify it.

2) Maybe I missed this in the movie. And if I did, could someone tell me where it happened? How did Pete decide to name himself Spider-man? Help an old man out here.

3) I never cared much for the Lizard, because he never really did anything that made much sense in the film. And where did all the small lizards come from? How is it they just appeared? Were these lizards Connors had in his lab all this time? It kind of reminded me of the penguins in Batman Returns. They were just kind of there to give him company. But there was no indication that he controlled them or even related with them. And why he needed to turn the city into lizards seem a little too far to the left of the reality built into this world. I liked that Spider-man had limitations. But the Lizard seemed more cartoony and less grounded in that same world.

4) I think Peter should have been the one to tell Gwen her dad died since it was her dad who went in there to help him. And I also think he should have attended the funeral and considered her dad's reasoning for the next film. It just seemed like too much of a disconnect to distance himself on that conviction and then let one comment from his aunt swing him back. I thought that was too much of a tectonic shift in logic to occur from one moment to the next.

 

[roach]

I thought the movie was good, but I did have some issues:

1) When Capt Stacy is dying I thought they should have used his lines from the comic telling Peter to take care of Gwen. It would have registered more appropriate than telling Pete to leave her out of it. Given Gwen's fate and Pete's decision to ignore her father's dying request, really puts the writers in an awkward situation if they decide to pursue the comic storyline and have the Goblin kill her off. Because if she dies, it will be because Parker chose to involve her. That will not register well no matter how they decide to justify it.

2) Maybe I missed this in the movie. And if I did, could someone tell me where it happened? How did Pete decide to name himself Spider-man? Help an old man out here.

3) I never cared much for the Lizard, because he never really did anything that made much sense in the film. And where did all the small lizards come from? How is it they just appeared? Were these lizards Connors had in his lab all this time? It kind of reminded me of the penguins in Batman Returns. They were just kind of there to give him company. But there was no indication that he controlled them or even related with them. And why he needed to turn the city into lizards seem a little too far to the left of the reality built into this world. I liked that Spider-man had limitations. But the Lizard seemed more cartoony and less grounded in that same world.

4) I think Peter should have been the one to tell Gwen her dad died since it was her dad who went in there to help him. And I also think he should have attended the funeral and considered her dad's reasoning for the next film. It just seemed like too much of a disconnect to distance himself on that conviction and then let one comment from his aunt swing him back. I thought that was too much of a tectonic shift in logic to occur from one moment to the next.

2) I don't think he named himself...i believe the news and police gave him that name.

 

[Webhead38]

2) I don't think he named himself...i believe the news and police gave him that name.

But I thought when Captain Stacy announced an arrest warrant for Spider-man he said, "...for the vigilante who calls himself Spider-man." It seems like they never really addressed that reasoning in the film. It was just there.

 

[roach]

did anyone else have an issue with Connors catching Peter at the end...not that he saved Peter but...you stick to walls...you shouldn't need anyone to catch you

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Nah, because it showed Connors snapped out of his "kill Peter mentality."

 

[Steve Sanders]

What I didn't like? There's a laundry list of problems in my view:

1. Spider-Man's quips just weren't funny, and all of it felt very, VERY forced. I'm sorry but when you're fighting for your life and possibly facing being beaten to death I doubt your mind is would be registering what your next one-liner is going to be.

In the comics Spidey would normally be joking around those he had a clear advantage over or if the fight/opponent wasn't posing an immediate threat to his life. Even the car thief scene just wasn't funny and the only real one-liner I recall from the school fight was, "Bad, bad, Lizard?"

I tell that to my dog virtually every day, heck, if that's all the creative humor a screenwriter needs I might get hired for the sequel.

2. The editing/pacing was just atrocious. I can barely remember what movie might have been more poorly edited than this one, but I can't; scenes were just chopped to pieces and the transitions were my no means smooth. Scenes that should have been given their time were incredibly rushed and those scenes that I cared less about seemed to drag on forever.

3. The subway fight; that earned a big WTH?! The choreography of it was horrid. Honestly, the acquiring of his powers were completely out of order; I mean, I would have preferred it if he had just gone home feeling incredibly ill, woken up the next morning and things just started happening like his strength manifesting the way it did.

If I recall correctly his spider-sense was one of the last things to manifest itself in the comics, not the first.

4. Really, he let a group of common thugs chase him? If that scene had been anywhere close to accurate he would have just stood his ground and and disposed of all of them in seconds without breaking a sweat.

Ordinary humans should not have seemingly posed a threat to him at all; also when he shows up at night with bruises and a bloody eye, what was that caused by, a normal right cross from some perp?

Please, his durability, or lack thereof was a big disappointment for me.

5. Uncle Ben's death...honestly Andrew's acting was, wow, real awkward to watch. I mean, what was that noise he kept making in between each "Oh, god" a shriek or a yelp?

There was just no emotional weight to that scene whatsoever, helped in part to some very questionable acting in my opinion.

6. His temporary mask, yeah, there was a lot of nervous laughter from the audience when he first showed up wearing that thing; yeah, he would have been better off with a cheap, run of the mill ski mask then that thing.

7. The lizard's face/head; yeah, it didn't carry any intimidation and, holy crap, to watch him talk while he was in the form was just so strange looking.

Hell the 90's cartoon portrayed a better Lizard/Spidey confrontation in 20 minutes than this entire movie did.

In my opinion, when it comes to the origin story; Raimi's original is head and shoulders above this. I'd put the ASM on par with Spider-Man 3 but in no way does it belong in the same dimension as the original two.

The 90's toon at least the first season,is the best adaptation of spidey bar none.ASM IMO is several times better than any of the Raimi films combined.Theres no comparison.Very few mistakes in them were Raimis were loaded with tons of them from one scene to the next almost it seemed.Thank God for Webb.

You know... it's been a few days... and this movie just didn't "wow" me like the first ones... especially SM2... in fact, whenever I talk to my friends about TASM, the topic quickly goes into what was "wrong" with it as opposed to the good things... and the only good things we can all agree on are the fight scenes with the Lizard...




For me its the only spidey movie that wowed me.


The only thing I don't like is that is cost $32 to see it in 3D with my wife. Other than that? The movie rocks and is way better than Raimi Spidey.

amen to that.Thats the understatement of the century.

 

[roach]

Nah, because it showed Connors snapped out of his "kill Peter mentality."

but I don't have issues with that. I have issues with someone needing to catch a man who can stick to falls from falling off the building

 

[Eddie Brock]

but I don't have issues with that. I have issues with someone needing to catch a man who can stick to falls from falling off the building

The only possible explanation I came up with was that Peter was falling away from the building? Without his webshooters, he has no way to get within arms reach to catch the side? It's a weak explanation, I admit.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

I remember some conscious cops that had a perimeter around Spider-man, they just stood there as Peter and Capt.Stacey talked.

 

[Sasobek]

Did anyone else notice and get slightly annoyed with Spider-Man's eye lenses? They were constantly changing from mirror, to yellow, to slightly orange, to red, and they never were the color of all of the marketing stills. Even the posters had his eye lenses change.