The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[Chris M]

My only nitpick would be that instead of using little snippets of the teaser trailer scene, they should have used that entire sequence to introduce "Spider-Man", in costume, for the first time.

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Actually I really liked the way they revealed the suit in the reflection close up. It gave me a thrill like I was a kid.

 

[Forever MS]

Okay, I saw the film again, and I realized there are SOOO many things that didn't make sense/I disliked about unfortunately one of the main parts of the film, how Peter Parker became Spiderman.

*First I disliked how he could just lie and take someone else's nametag. Really, no ID check, no anything?

*Then he can just walk in the Spider room, after just watching Ratha put in a simple password, he just copies it and BOOM he's right inside? These genetically-altered spiders are a multi-million, perhaps multi-billion dollar investment and he can just easily waltz right in?

*Then there's the fact that there are no cameras, nobody sees him inside this very valuable room, and surely ever spider should be accounted for, but nope nobody cares that one disappears with Peter.

*Nobody really cares that Peter jumps on the ceiling of the subway, tears the whole compartment up, then just leaves. None of those people told any authorities about this incident, no cameras in the subway?

*Does Peter just steal those web cartridges, or order them online? If he stole them, surely someone would have noticed as these things are quite powerful and valuable. Also they should have recognized that this masked vigilante who becomes extremely famous all over NYC is using there product for his source of webbing.

*If he just orders them from online, then WOW they must be really cheap, that anyone can just buy them. How can Peter afford something that should really be worth millions? Again, Oscorp still should have recognized that the webbing was theirs as well.

*Also this means really the only thing that separates Peter from everyone else to become Spiderman is only his ability to make the webshooters, as anyone can just walk into the Spider room and get bit and order some webbing from Oscorp. (I guess the webshooter must be extremely complex though so I'll let this slide as Peter still has to display his genius to make it.)

 

[Eddie Brock]

*First I disliked how he could just lie and take someone else's nametag. Really, no ID check, no anything?

Did seem a bit off, but I feel like the receptionist probably just didn't care. She gave off that vibe.

*Then he can just walk in the Spider room, after just watching Ratha put in a simple password, he just copies it and BOOM he's right inside? These genetically-altered spiders are a multi-million, perhaps multi-billion dollar investment and he can just easily waltz right in?

To be fair, that's not an easy password if you don't watch somebody do it. When you press the first button, about ten more pop up. Considering the number of possible combinations, it could take you forever to figure it out blind.

*Also this means really the only thing that separates Peter from everyone else to become Spiderman is only his ability to make the webshooters, as anyone can just walk into the Spider room and get bit and order some webbing from Oscorp. (I guess the webshooter must be extremely complex though so I'll let this slide as Peter still has to display his genius to make it.)

Anyone can walk into the spider room, but A. the door is locked (see above), B. there were hazmat suits inside the room, and C. there was a keycard swipe to get into the spider room from that inner room with the webbing. (Which I believe Ratha left unlocked because he saw Peter snooping around.)

Your other points are valid, though. Movie logic!

 

[LordofhouseEl]

I did not like Peter Parker in this film at all, and wow on how selfish he was. Also why wasn't the fact that uncle Ben died because of Peter addressed? No not because he didn't stop the thief but because he was having a late night moan and had uncle Ben coming after him. Also after Ben is dead this piece of **** bastard then treats his poor wife like **** the woman he made a widow. Rather than spend time with Aunt May and have there relationship flourish he just treats he like absolute crap. Also there was a lot of cliches in this movie.

 

[Prophet924]

All that reminds me of the sane questions I had when watching my all time fave Spider-Man 2. Isn't really bizarre that the Doc Ock presentation seemed to be the only time he conducted that experiment? Yea I know the precious Tridium. But still scientist conduct experiment after experiment adjusting the variables to see the final results. So the writers this real world stuff doesn't concern writers or directors. They want to tell the story.

Real cops see Oscorp robe torn and tathered and coupled with reports of a giant lizard and promptly march on off to Oscorp. Who here is working with Lizards? Where's this Mr. Connors now? Go to his home. There is no need for maskless Pete to convince Lt. Stacy of Connors doing bad thing. He us suspect one.

Not the story they wanted to tell.

But i think it's just stuff you see in flight of fantasy stories.

Thwipp!

 

[Eddie Brock]

I did not like Peter Parker in this film at all, and wow on how selfish he was. Also why wasn't the fact that uncle Ben died because of Peter addressed? No not because he didn't stop the thief but because he was having a late night moan and had uncle Ben coming after him. Also after Ben is dead this piece of **** bastard then treats his poor wife like **** the woman he made a widow. Rather than spend time with Aunt May and have there relationship flourish he just treats he like absolute crap. Also there was a lot of cliches in this movie.

1. It was addressed. It just wasn't thrown in your face.
2. There's a difference between a "late night moan" and finally releasing all of the anger and resentment you feel towards your father for abandoning you as a child without so much as an explanation or a proper goodbye.
3. Seriously? Name-calling a fictional character in a movie?

 

[Eddie Brock]

Real cops see Oscorp robe torn and tathered and coupled with reports of a giant lizard and promptly march on off to Oscorp. Who here is working with Lizards? Where's this Mr. Connors now? Go to his home. There is no need for maskless Pete to convince Lt. Stacy of Connors doing bad thing. He us suspect one.

They didn't find a tattered OsCorp labcoat until the school - which was after Peter pleaded with Captain Stacy to investigate Connors, which he promptly did despite his misgivings.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

1. It was addressed. It just wasn't thrown in your face.
2. There's a difference between a "late night moan" and finally releasing all of the anger and resentment you feel towards your father for abandoning you as a child without so much as an explanation or a proper goodbye.
3. Seriously? Name-calling a fictional character in a movie?

When was it addressed because I cant recall a scene where this was addressed at all. Its all fine and all releasing all of the anger and resentment fact for me is that the scene did not work. It felt tacked on and didn't create any empathy for Peter. I just thought he was acting like a *****e, he was in the wrong and there was no room for arguments. Oh and I was speaking of Peter behavior when I called him those things.

 

[Eddie Brock]

When was it addressed because I cant recall a scene where this was addressed at all. Its all fine and all releasing all of the anger and resentment fact for me is that the scene did not work. It felt tacked on and didn't create any empathy for Peter. I just thought he was acting like a *****e, he was in the wrong and there was no room for arguments. Oh and I was speaking of Peter behavior when I called him those things.

It's the connecting thread throughout the movie. That's what I'm saying. It's not addressed, directly speaking. But we see it when Peter can't listen to the voicemail the first time, when Peter confronts the first suspect ("You like to beat up old men?"), when Peter talks about Spider-Man doing something "the police can't" (namely, catching the killer).

It didn't create empathy for you. I think most people would praise the way Andrew Garfield made Peter's pain feel real. Yes, he was in the wrong about Aunt May, but that's not what he was upset about. He was upset that he was getting these fatherly lessons from his uncle about "responsibility" when his own father wasn't responsible enough to stick around.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

It's the connecting thread throughout the movie. That's what I'm saying. It's not addressed, directly speaking. But we see it when Peter can't listen to the voicemail the first time, when Peter confronts the first suspect ("You like to beat up old men?"), when Peter talks about Spider-Man doing something "the police can't" (namely, catching the killer).

It didn't create empathy for you. I think most people would praise the way Andrew Garfield made Peter's pain feel real. Yes, he was in the wrong about Aunt May, but that's not what he was upset about. He was upset that he was getting these fatherly lessons from his uncle about "responsibility" when his own father wasn't responsible enough to stick around.

Your making inadequate excuses, in no way was this ever addressed. And if it was it should have been better conveyed to the audience. Peter was practically responsible for the death of his uncle. If he had not stormed out of the house then his Uncle would have not encountered that criminal. Garfields Parker is even more responsible then Toby Peter yet the director and script don't take advantage of this. For instance we could have had a scene where Peter comes home and sees Aunt may sleeping on the couch with the TV on. He proceeds to of the tv and pulls the quilt cover up to fully cover aunt may.

*Aunt May wakes*
Aunt May: "Ben"?
*Peter stops in his track with a pained expression on his face*
Peter:No aunt May its Peter.
Aunt May: Oh Peter, where have you been I have been waiting for you.
Peter: You don't have to do that Aunt May........I am sorry.
Aunt May: what was that dear?
Peter: I am sorry it was my fault, *Peter starts to cry*
Peter: If I hadn't stormed out that night he would still be alive I am sorry I am so sorry.
*Aunt May stands up and goes over and hugs Peter*

Aunt May: Its ok dear it wasn't your fault.

I am sorry but I didn't feel Peter Parkers pain because I couldn't empathize with him, maybe if he wasn't such a *****e perhaps that connection could have been established.

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

Actually I really liked the way they revealed the suit in the reflection close up. It gave me a thrill like I was a kid.

That's what I'm saying. They condensed the teaser trailer shot and cut around so it didn't look like one continuous shot. They should have started it like the trailer and played it through fully and ended the same way it did in the final movie. It would have made the scene more dramatic and suspenseful.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Your making inadequate excuses, in no way was this ever addressed. And if it was it should have been better conveyed to the audience. Peter was practically responsible for the death of his uncle. If he had not stormed out of the house then his Uncle would have not encountered that criminal. Garfields Parker is even more responsible then Toby Peter yet the director and script don't take advantage of this. For instance we could have had a scene where Peter comes home and sees Aunt may sleeping on the couch with the TV on. He proceeds to of the tv and pulls the quilt cover up to fully cover aunt may.

*Aunt May wakes*
Aunt May: "Ben"?
*Peter stops in his track with a pained expression on his face*
Peter:No aunt May its Peter.
Aunt May: Oh Peter, where have you been I have been waiting for you.
Peter: You don't have to do that Aunt May........I am sorry.
Aunt May: what was that dear?
Peter: I am sorry it was my fault, *Peter starts to cry*
Peter: If I hadn't stormed out that night he would still be alive I am sorry I am so sorry.
*Aunt May stands up and goes over and hugs Peter*

Aunt May: Its ok dear it wasn't your fault.

I am sorry but I didn't feel Peter Parkers pain because I couldn't empathize with him, maybe if he wasn't such a *****e perhaps that connection could have been established.

It's the art of subtlety, my friend. I promise you it's there. They just aren't throwing it in your face. And the scene you suggest? Raimi didn't even go there until SM2, so...

 

[Troy_Parker]

That's what I'm saying. They condensed the teaser trailer shot and cut around so it didn't look like one continuous shot. They should have started it like the trailer and played it through fully and ended the same way it did in the final movie. It would have made the scene more dramatic and suspenseful.

This. The final version of the teaser POV visually looked amazing, but then they chopped it up from a 30 or so second shot into a 3 second one. And even that was done horribly, it felt completely disjointed.

 

[Eddie Brock]

This. The final version of the teaser POV visually looked amazing, but then they chopped it up from a 30 or so second shot into a 3 second one. And even that was done horribly, it felt completely disjointed.

Yeah. The POV shot from the teaser is what convinced me to see this in 3D, and I never see movies in 3D. What we got was amazing (and totally worth the 3D), but I still felt cheated.

 

[SpideyFan866]

The only thing I didnt like from TASM was that the scene with Ratha, Connors, and Peter in the underground lab was cut.

I wouldve like to have known that scene entailed.


P.S. I'm Back

 

[LordofhouseEl]

It's the art of subtlety, my friend. I promise you it's there. They just aren't throwing it in your face. And the scene you suggest? Raimi didn't even go there until SM2, so...

Its not there, I consider myself very adapt at picking up even the most subtle thing but did not detect it. Forget what Raimi did this Parker was far more responsible for what occurred to Ben than Raimi Parker. My main thought after the whole scene was what does Aunt May think, and I am sure I am not the only one in the audience who was thinking that. If Ben didn't go after him then he wouldn't have encountered the thief. There were plenty of missed opportunities in this film that could have truly escalated the level and grade of the film.

 

[ALP]

Okay, I saw the film again, and I realized there are SOOO many things that didn't make sense/I disliked about unfortunately one of the main parts of the film, how Peter Parker became Spiderman.

*First I disliked how he could just lie and take someone else's nametag. Really, no ID check, no anything?

*Then he can just walk in the Spider room, after just watching Ratha put in a simple password, he just copies it and BOOM he's right inside? These genetically-altered spiders are a multi-million, perhaps multi-billion dollar investment and he can just easily waltz right in?

*Then there's the fact that there are no cameras, nobody sees him inside this very valuable room, and surely ever spider should be accounted for, but nope nobody cares that one disappears with Peter.

*Nobody really cares that Peter jumps on the ceiling of the subway, tears the whole compartment up, then just leaves. None of those people told any authorities about this incident, no cameras in the subway?

*Does Peter just steal those web cartridges, or order them online? If he stole them, surely someone would have noticed as these things are quite powerful and valuable. Also they should have recognized that this masked vigilante who becomes extremely famous all over NYC is using there product for his source of webbing.

*If he just orders them from online, then WOW they must be really cheap, that anyone can just buy them. How can Peter afford something that should really be worth millions? Again, Oscorp still should have recognized that the webbing was theirs as well.

*Also this means really the only thing that separates Peter from everyone else to become Spiderman is only his ability to make the webshooters, as anyone can just walk into the Spider room and get bit and order some webbing from Oscorp. (I guess the webshooter must be extremely complex though so I'll let this slide as Peter still has to display his genius to make it.)

I am in total agreement with you about the mechanical web. The way it was done in this movie, it's just made into a hinderance. He didn't create the web himself, he just steals it from Oscorp. And the moment someone took a video of the mysterious Spider-Man slinging through the city, Oscorp would have realized that someone is stealing their work. That's almost a plot hole that Oscorp is not following up on an investigation of someone using their revolutionary billion dollar idea. And now he has got to regularly steal web from Oscorp. It was more comic accurate to use mechanics but they went about it a sloppy way with little thought.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

I am in total agreement with you about the mechanical web. The way it was done in this movie, it's just made into a hinderance. He didn't create the web himself, he just steals it from Oscorp. And the moment someone took a video of the mysterious Spider-Man slinging through the city, Oscorp would have realized that someone is stealing their work. That's almost a plot hole that Oscorp is not following up on an investigation of someone using their revolutionary billion dollar idea. And now he has got to regularly steal web from Oscorp. It was more comic accurate to use mechanics but they went about it a sloppy way with little thought.

I wasn't going to address this but also ****** police work from Captain Stacy and his merry men. They could issue an arrest warrant for Spiderman and send 38 of NY finest after him yet couldn't deduct his identity by doing some detective work.

1. Webbing used by vigilante created by oscorp.

2. The specific type of crooks Spiderman was initially targeting.

3. Fact is the guy doesnt seem human and moves some what like an arachnid, jeez human moving like a Spider (Oscorp specializes in gene splicing hmmmmmmmmmmm.)

 

[The Guard]

How would the police know Oscorb was making webbing?

How would the specific type of crook tell them anything related to Peter, or prove anything?

 

[LordofhouseEl]

How would the police know Oscorb was making webbing?

How would the specific type of crook tell them anything related to Peter, or prove anything?

The material used for the webbing was designed by Oscorp how hard would it be for someone with the resources of the police to trace that back to Oscorp. Also the police have a picture of the perpetrator who killed Ben. A bit of detective work could easily lead to the discovery that the pattern is connected to a murder suspect. These are not things I have a huge problem with just a passing thought.

 

[Eddie Brock]

The material used for the webbing was designed by Oscorp how hard would it be for someone with the resources of the police to trace that back to Oscorp. Also the police have a picture of the perpetrator who killed Ben. A bit of detective work could easily lead to the discovery that the pattern is connected to a murder suspect. These are not things I have a huge problem with just a passing thought.

Judging by how many false suspects Peter turned up, I'm guessing that shoulder-length, blonde-haired criminals are fairly common in the TASM universe hehe, so there's no real way for them to know that Peter's looking specifically for Ben's killer.

 

[ALP]

Something else I didn't like... how they just sort of passed over the creation of the suit.

The creation of the suit was all of 15 seconds. They show him putting the lenses into the mask and creating the logo but that was it. The suit has so much damn incredible detail in it and it just comes from nowhere. Although, we could assume he purchased it online since he was looking at spandex on different sites. Is that what you guys assumed?

 

[Eddie Brock]

Something else I didn't like... how they just sort of passed over the creation of the suit.

The creation of the suit was all of 15 seconds. They show him putting the lenses into the mask and creating the logo but that was it. The suit has so much damn incredible detail in it and it just comes from nowhere. Although, we could assume he purchased it online since he was looking at spandex on different sites. Is that what you guys assumed?

Better than the 0 seconds we saw in SM1.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

Judging by how many false suspects Peter turned up, I'm guessing that shoulder-length, blonde-haired criminals are fairly common in the TASM hehe, so there's no real way for them to know that Peter's looking specifically for Ben's killer.

Its a certain type, like I said detective work would narrow things down. Its not a big issue for me just something I was pointing out.

 

[Jexx]

I think that there will be an extended suit making scene in the Blu-Ray release.