World Avengers cartoon - Part 2

[BigThor]

I'd rather see Wonder Man quit f**kin' around and become a good guy already.

True that

 

[Dread]

I'd rather see Wonder Man quit f**kin' around and become a good guy already.

The Avengers will have to figure out how to cut him off from Amora's magic without killing him to do that, as well as for Simon to get over his "petty vengeance fetish" for Tony Stark.

Of course, they need his brain patterns for Vision's AI, so maybe Ultron gets involved...

On the other hand, with no Wanda Maximoff, there is no immediate romance for Vision that springs from Wonder Man, so I would almost bet money Ultron just builds him as a "son" without the brain patterns and goes from there. But, I've been wrong in good ways about this show so far.

 

[venomfangs125]

The Avengers will have to figure out how to cut him off from Amora's magic without killing him to do that, as well as for Simon to get over his "petty vengeance fetish" for Tony Stark.

Of course, they need his brain patterns for Vision's AI, so maybe Ultron gets involved...

On the other hand, with no Wanda Maximoff, there is no immediate romance for Vision that springs from Wonder Man, so I would almost bet money Ultron just builds him as a "son" without the brain patterns and goes from there. But, I've been wrong in good ways about this show so far.

I figured Vision WAS the solution to saving Wonder Man. His body starts breaking down, Yellowjacket uploads his brain into the android body to save him, BOOM. An oversimplification to his origin, yes, but still.

Speaking of delightfully proved wrong, I watched episode 24 again just recently and I just look at the MoE gathered waiting for Enchantress & Executioner, you just have to think "these guys are definitely bad guys who all mean serious trouble." I mean, seriously I thought some of these villains would look like jokes. But when you throw in Graviton, Ultron, Kang and Loki, the plot gets EXTREMELY dark.

In a nut shell, I'm very happy with this show.

 

[herofanatic90]

Voice actor Wally Wingert "We’re wrapping up the second season of Avengers from Marvel; I play Ant Man, Giant Man, soon to be Yellow Jacket."

Voice actress Erin Torpey says "I'm also playing The Invisible Woman in The Avengers and that's really cool."

Voice actor Peter Jessup has confirmed that he will be performing the voice of the Vision for AEMH.

 

[venomfangs125]

Speaking of Invisible Woman, I found a picture of her in her solid form:

She looks a little different from the photo in the Man Who Stole Tommorow. For one her hair seems longer.

 

[Dread]

I figured Vision WAS the solution to saving Wonder Man. His body starts breaking down, Yellowjacket uploads his brain into the android body to save him, BOOM. An oversimplification to his origin, yes, but still.

Speaking of delightfully proved wrong, I watched episode 24 again just recently and I just look at the MoE gathered waiting for Enchantress & Executioner, you just have to think "these guys are definitely bad guys who all mean serious trouble." I mean, seriously I thought some of these villains would look like jokes. But when you throw in Graviton, Ultron, Kang and Loki, the plot gets EXTREMELY dark.

In a nut shell, I'm very happy with this show.

Me too.

If Wonder Man were just going to be "inserted" into the Vision, why bother changing his voice actor? Is Phil LaMarr suddenly getting busy? It would be easier to just have Vision have the same voice, instead of hiring another voice actor for that role.

The whole "programmed with Simon Williams' brain patterns" element for the Vision has usually only been used to justify a romance with Wanda, at least at the start. Those brain patterns were eventually purged from Vision (and Simon, who was alive at the time, would not volunteer to donate them again no matter how angry Wanda got at him) and he became "emotionless" for a while, although some old "feelings" came back. Y'know, to show he's more than a bucket of bolts. Still, without Wanda I barely see the point.

The only useful element to such a subplot was that it connected Vision to Simon Williams (when he was resurrected) as "family" and often made him a target of Grim Reaper who saw Vision as an abomination of his brother's memory a lot of the time. Still, Ultron plucking Simon's brain patterns almost seems random in the context of the show.

The show might merely simplify things so that Vision doesn't need those brain patterns but still has his own AI and ultimately turns on Ultron. In a way they could possibly use that angle to instead pay homage to the "Ultron Mark 12" story in AVENGERS in which the 12th incarnation of Ultron, or something like that, actually "evolved past mechanical hatred" and had love for Pym, who he considered a father (and wanted to be called "Mark" instead of Ultron). The producers might feel, with some justification, that the last Avengers cartoon actually was faithful about the whole Simon/Wanda/Vision thing and want to be distinct from that. The most useful element to Vision's character arc is the "is he more than a machine" angle and that can be done with or without Simon's brain patterns.

Speaking of Invisible Woman, I found a picture of her in her solid form:

She looks a little different from the photo in the Man Who Stole Tommorow. For one her hair seems longer.

Once upon a time, Invisible Woman (or Invisible Girl as she was called for ages) used to change her hair style frequently - it was once said as frequently as Wasp changed her costume. Plus, the photo could have been from months or years ago.

 

[kedrell]

Well once Wonder Man does go good, I hope he loses the energy form.

 

[venomfangs125]

Me too.

If Wonder Man were just going to be "inserted" into the Vision, why bother changing his voice actor? Is Phil LaMarr suddenly getting busy? It would be easier to just have Vision have the same voice, instead of hiring another voice actor for that role.

The whole "programmed with Simon Williams' brain patterns" element for the Vision has usually only been used to justify a romance with Wanda, at least at the start. Those brain patterns were eventually purged from Vision (and Simon, who was alive at the time, would not volunteer to donate them again no matter how angry Wanda got at him) and he became "emotionless" for a while, although some old "feelings" came back. Y'know, to show he's more than a bucket of bolts. Still, without Wanda I barely see the point.

The only useful element to such a subplot was that it connected Vision to Simon Williams (when he was resurrected) as "family" and often made him a target of Grim Reaper who saw Vision as an abomination of his brother's memory a lot of the time. Still, Ultron plucking Simon's brain patterns almost seems random in the context of the show.

The show might merely simplify things so that Vision doesn't need those brain patterns but still has his own AI and ultimately turns on Ultron. In a way they could possibly use that angle to instead pay homage to the "Ultron Mark 12" story in AVENGERS in which the 12th incarnation of Ultron, or something like that, actually "evolved past mechanical hatred" and had love for Pym, who he considered a father (and wanted to be called "Mark" instead of Ultron). The producers might feel, with some justification, that the last Avengers cartoon actually was faithful about the whole Simon/Wanda/Vision thing and want to be distinct from that. The most useful element to Vision's character arc is the "is he more than a machine" angle and that can be done with or without Simon's brain patterns.

Well, another voice actor would let you distinguish between the two. Besides, we can't expect the robot to have vocal chords EXACTLY like Simon's. Peter will add the robot voice touch, since they chose him for the role as a regular member. It's either just Vision and Ms. Marvel or those five could actually be the new members of the season, though I LOVE the idea of having more heroes, I wouldn't ecactly want the focus shifting between so many different characters. They can work with maybe 10 since that's what seems to be the case, but add in a few more, it gets iffy. Thoughts?

Once upon a time, Invisible Woman (or Invisible Girl as she was called for ages) used to change her hair style frequently - it was once said as frequently as Wasp changed her costume. Plus, the photo could have been from months or years ago.

Hmm, well, when you put it that way...

 

[Sockie]

Well, another voice actor would let you distinguish between the two. Besides, we can't expect the robot to have vocal chords EXACTLY like Simon's. Peter will add the robot voice touch, since they chose him for the role as a regular member. It's either just Vision and Ms. Marvel or those five could actually be the new members of the season, though I LOVE the idea of having more heroes, I wouldn't ecactly want the focus shifting between so many different characters. They can work with maybe 10 since that's what seems to be the case, but add in a few more, it gets iffy. Thoughts?

Even though ten members at the same is in itself a bit too much?

I know you don't want anyone to leave the team, but some are definitely going to have to.

 

[Dread]

Well once Wonder Man does go good, I hope he loses the energy form.

Agreed. It would be a sign of his powers being stable and all that.

The oddity of "AVENGERS: UNITED THEY STAND" was virtually all of their character designs were terrible, aside for Wonder Man. Even if his design has the distinction of being the best among crap.

Well, another voice actor would let you distinguish between the two. Besides, we can't expect the robot to have vocal chords EXACTLY like Simon's. Peter will add the robot voice touch, since they chose him for the role as a regular member. It's either just Vision and Ms. Marvel or those five could actually be the new members of the season, though I LOVE the idea of having more heroes, I wouldn't ecactly want the focus shifting between so many different characters. They can work with maybe 10 since that's what seems to be the case, but add in a few more, it gets iffy. Thoughts?

I would not want so many heroes that character development is sacrificed for extra bodies on the screen. That was the biggest problem when "JUSTICE LEAGUE" expanded to "JLU". You had some new characters show up and be a big deal for an episode, and then nothing at all. Then you had certain long term characters, especially Flash, fading into the background for a season.

The Avengers roster shifts around, so I don't mind seeing some things change over the course of the adventure. I imagine Ms. Marvel and Mar-Vell will be involved with the Skrull/Kree War stuff. I imagine Danvers may serve as an interesting replacement for Capt. America given his "subplot".

Spoiler

In fact, I imagine that after the Skrull impostor is exposed, the real Rogers might still be a captive of the Skrulls for an episode or more until he is rescued.

I also imagine Vision will appear the next time Ultron has an arc; he was naturally built to infiltrate and betray the Avengers, but ultimately chose not to (and was humbled by their acceptance of him - "even a robot can cry!" and all that). Vision could become like Black Panther - he can be silent for an episode for those episodes when they risk breaching that 13-14 regular actors an episode SAG limit.

Falcon and Black Knight I imagine might not appear for more than a cameo, but who knows. Dane Whitman was actually involved in a love triangle with Janet for years in the 60's in the comics - it just went nowhere. If Pym takes a sabbatical, it could be interesting having Dane show up and Janet be a little smitten with him. Part of me sees the SECRET INVASION story as being a good excuse to have a lot of heroes guest star or have cameo scenes, such as the Fantastic Four, Black Knight, and Falcon.

I wonder if Bucky may return as the Winter Soldier not as a pawn of the Soviets but of Baron Zemo, as a way to seamlessly explain it.

Juggling a cast of 10 heroes would be a challenge, but if some members come and go, that is okay so long as a core cast is maintained. Every show needs a core cast, regardless of cameo's. X-Men cartoons have relied on that, and Avengers should too.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Mr. Yost replied to me on Twitter, regarding Season 2: @RIMBreaks Seen 20 or so of the Season 2 eps, so it's on it's way. S2 starts with a little tale called 'The Private War of Doctor Doom.'

Plain awesome, guys Gonna be epic!

 

[venomfangs125]

Mr. Yost replied to me on Twitter, regarding Season 2: @RIMBreaks Seen 20 or so of the Season 2 eps, so it's on it's way. S2 starts with a little tale called 'The Private War of Doctor Doom.'

Plain awesome, guys Gonna be epic!

Huh. Interesting start to the 2nd season, wouldn't you agree fellas? You'd think they'd save Doc Doom for a little later, but I digress, BRING HIM ON!!

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Tony Stark vs. Victor Von Doom clash = incredible & unbelievable!!!

 

[Gamma Burst]

Mr. Yost replied to me on Twitter, regarding Season 2: @RIMBreaks Seen 20 or so of the Season 2 eps, so it's on it's way. S2 starts with a little tale called 'The Private War of Doctor Doom.'

Plain awesome, guys Gonna be epic!

Awesome, indeed!

 

[BigThor]

Huh. Interesting start to the 2nd season, wouldn't you agree fellas? You'd think they'd save Doc Doom for a little later, but I digress, BRING HIM ON!!

I guess they want to start off big like they did in season 1, oh and they're probably gonna save villians like Thanos for later episodes.

 

[bored]

Have they said that Thanos would appear? Because that would be awesome.

 

[venomfangs125]

Have they said that Thanos would appear? Because that would be awesome.

No, they haven't. But it would be freaking sweet. t: But not as sweet as SS and big G showing up. This show does a spot-on characerization of its characters, so we'd be lucky to get a few well known guys onto Avengers:EMH.

 

[Denny67]

My nephew Ryan's Avengers EMH Season 2 promo:

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Sunday, May 15th t:

My other nephew Robert “Bobby” is doing a voice in Young Justice. I can’t say much because they are not allowed to talk about it until the promo’s start running but when the NDA is lifted I will post more info on that.

 

[Sockie]

My nephew Ryan's Avengers EMH Season 2 promo:

Slight nitpick, but that's a promo for the last episodes of season 1. The second season isn't starting for a while. >.>

 

[TheVileOne]

Congrats to your nephews though getting acting gigs.

 

[Denny67]

Slight nitpick, but that's a promo for the last episodes of season 1. The second season isn't starting for a while. >.>

Huh? He just shot that promo last month. He did 8 hours of shooting for the entire new season.

Promo says may 15th. The first micro episode aired Sept. 22 2010. So what you're saying is kind of impossible.

 

[Sockie]

Huh? He just shot that promo last month. He did 8 hours of shooting for the entire new season.

Promo says may 15th. The first micro episode aired Sept. 22 2010. So what you're saying is kind of impossible.

No, it isn't. I'm not saying at all that this is a promo for the entire first season. It's already been said the last seven episodes of season one start airing in the USA on May 15.

The promo's for the last portion of season one, not the premiere of season two.

 

[Denny67]

No, it isn't. I'm not saying at all that this is a promo for the entire first season. It's already been said the last seven episodes of season one start airing in the USA on May 15.

The promo's for the last portion of season one, not the premiere of season two.

LOL it was just a general statement. I never said "entire." I just said it eas a promo for Season 2. The furst epidode of season 2 is on May 15th, which makes it a season 2 promo. It is not complicated.

 

[Sockie]

LOL it was just a general statement. I never said "entire." I just said it eas a promo for Season 2. The furst epidode of season 2 is on May 15th, which makes it a season 2 promo. It is not complicated.

But that's not a season two episode. The episode airing on May 15 is considered by everyone on the show's crew to be a season one episode, as well as the next six episodes after it. Season one has twenty-six episodes in it; the last episode to air in the USA was episode 19, which aired in January.

You're right, it isn't that complicated. But I don't know why you keep insisting that these are season two episodes. Season two isn't starting until Fall at the earliest.

 

[Denny67]

As far as I know The Casket of Ancient Winters airs May 15th. If I'm wrong and that is not technically part of season two whatever. Enjoy the e-nerdgasum