Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[Nathan]

oh yeah?... anyone remember Star Trek 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoErHIfrGU


plus people saw Glen Close's character, and had attachment to her, that would have been a memorable death:

We saw her in one Movie. 4 years ago. People haven't build remotely of a close connection to her character, as they have to Loki or even Heimdall.

 

[squeekness]

that is one of the problems with the comics; you have to deal with some seriously flawed or disappointing new versions of your heroes, such as a captain america that is sworn to hydra or a scarlet witch that carries on an incestuous relationship with her brother.

Exactly. Wolverine, agent of SHIELD.

 

[Infinity9999x]

oh yeah?... anyone remember Star Trek 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoErHIfrGU


plus people saw Glen Close's character, and had attachment to her, that would have been a memorable death:

Trek 09 is a great example. And appropriate, given that you’re referencing the series that coined the term red-shirt in relation to characters who the audience had no emotional attachment to and as such only served the function of dying to show danger. There’s a reason why we had the reaction of two Spock’s, plus Spock’s mother to give the audience a reason to care about the death of the planet in Trek 09. Without that, it’s meaningless fodder.

Close and Reily’s characters were supporting characters in a movie from four years ago. Hardly the kind of characters that would elicit an emotional response in the audience. They would barley be more than red-shirts.

Death in fiction without developed characters means little to an audience. That’s a basic tenet of storytelling.

 

[LoganPool]

https://www.newsarama.com/39907-ave...d-to-characters-not-in-the-film-spoilers.html

Am I the only one that caught that little tid-bit at the end about Jane Foster? Her fate is too "spoilery" to reveal? Sounds to me like we haven't seen the last of her yet...

 

[Iceman]

Wonder what they're hinting at there.

 

[P Supreme]

Am I the only one that caught that little tid-bit at the end about Jane Foster? Her fate is too "spoilery" to reveal? Sounds to me like we haven't seen the last of her yet...

hope they never bring her back, the character was terrible

 

[RoastBeast]

Am I the only one that caught that little tid-bit at the end about Jane Foster? Her fate is too "spoilery" to reveal? Sounds to me like we haven't seen the last of her yet...

... I swear, if she re-emerges and some character I actually like who performs a function does not... wait, I forgot, she actually performs a function! She bats her eyelashes at Thor, literally! ...nope. still not doing it.

They have got to be kidding.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I totally disagree with you there, anyone remember star wars?:
Destruction of Alderaan

Pretty emotional scene, even Obi-Wan said, millions of voices cried out in terror. Heck we could of had one of the watchers say something like that when Thanos destroyed Xandar, and then he goes and kills the asgardians and Heimdall/Loki, would really show how badass he is.

Lets also not forget Revenge of the sith, with all those Jedi who were killed. Was it unemotional because they were "Underdeveloped" which in my opinion is subjective when you say "underdeveloped".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCuUIkEtJjo

Riley, Close, and the Nova Core were far more developed (and Xandar itself) than those Jedi or the people of Alderaan.

Those (SW deaths) weren't emotional deaths to me. I was more concerned with how the main characters took it.

 

[Nathan]

Alderaan was more of an "Oh s**t!" moment, because you've never seen somebody blow up a planet before. But it wasn't emotional. Like Ms. Marvel said, we were more concerned with how the characters took it. And destroying Xandar wouldn't have added any more to his level of badassery.

Thanos single-handedly overpowering Hulk, and pummeling him into submission with ease, showed you just how many leagues he was above everyone. If all else fails, you throw Hulk at the problem. And within the first 5 minutes you learned that's not going to work against Thanos.

The Russos made the right call. Anything else would have been a waste of money, and wouldn't have had the same impact as showing Thor on the ground, from the very beginning.

 

[MrWayne]

So I’ve got a question about the Infinity Stones that I haven’t really seen discussed.

Does it matter where on the gauntlet you place a stone? The stones seems to automatically gravitate to certain slots.

Also, are the stones all the same size?? Why did the Mind stone in Visions head look smaller but when Thanos put it on the gauntlet it was obviously the biggest stone on the gauntlet?

 

[squeekness]

hope they never bring her back, the character was terrible

I liked Jane Foster well enough, but it just seemed like her story was done and she had nothing more to add.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I totally disagree with you there, anyone remember star wars?:
Destruction of Alderaan

Pretty emotional scene, even Obi-Wan said, millions of voices cried out in terror. Heck we could of had one of the watchers say something like that when Thanos destroyed Xandar, and then he goes and kills the asgardians and Heimdall/Loki, would really show how badass he is.

Lets also not forget Revenge of the sith, with all those Jedi who were killed. Was it unemotional because they were "Underdeveloped" which in my opinion is subjective when you say "underdeveloped".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCuUIkEtJjo

Riley, Close, and the Nova Core were far more developed (and Xandar itself) than those Jedi or the people of Alderaan.

Alderaan is another perfect example. Absolutely no connection to the planet or the people on it, we react to Obi-Wan and Leia (though Leia gets over it pretty quickly, as does Luke with his Aunt and Uncle). Alderaan was more noted for being a display of power, but I had no emotional reaction to the planet being destroyed.

I also had no attachment to the Jedi being killed. Though the audience does emphasize with the feelings of betrayal that Yoda and Obi-Wan feel, because, again, they are developed characters.

 

[Bim]

Am I the only one that caught that little tid-bit at the end about Jane Foster? Her fate is too "spoilery" to reveal? Sounds to me like we haven't seen the last of her yet...

I saw it too. Found it interesting. I wonder what they're up to with her.

 

[markjoedelonge]

Hmmmm. Anyone wonder why Iron Man didn't just use his laser to cut off Thanos's hand?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think they would have pierced him, honestly. I mean, rockets did nothing to him.

 

[TeeKay]

He used it already when cutting into the ship. It was established in prior films that he can only use it once.

 

[markjoedelonge]

He used it already when cutting into the ship. It was established in prior films that he can only use it once.

True, but those prior films were when he wasn't using nanotech. No reason why he couldn't form the parts into a laser again?

 

[markjoedelonge]

I don't think they would have pierced him, honestly. I mean, rockets did nothing to him.

Well, Tony did manage to make him bleed with a huge punch

 

[Nathan]

He used it already when cutting into the ship. It was established in prior films that he can only use it once.

It was a one off in Ironman 2, but didn't he already have multiple charges of it in Avengers?

 

[Flemm]

Do we ever get to see Tony's plan?

My impression was that his plan might have been a more direct attempt to take the gauntlet, while Starlord wanted to try having Mantis incapacitate Thanos.

Wong slices off Black Dwarf's arm by accident early in the film, so the directors apparently want people to think about slicing off the gauntlet as an alternative to Starlord's more complicated idea.

I guess that it plays into the general vibe that the Avengers screw up this time. They blow their best chances to stop Thanos.

But it's implied that those apparently logical ideas wouldn't have worked anyway.

 

[Ninjablade]

It was a one off in Ironman 2, but didn't he already have multiple charges of it in Avengers?

He did in Age of Ultron, not sure about the first one.

 

[javonstokess]

Couple of things:

It took a MASSIVE beating by all the Titan-battle participants just to get Thanos to slightly bleed. I don't think Stark's laser would have done much. Also, don' forget that every time someone tried to blast Thanos with any type of energy he quickly through up a gauntlet shield to protect himself.

Also, people keep saying "why didn't that just put a portal around Thanos' hand and cut the gauntlet off". Guys, by the time Thanos caught up with Dr. Strange, he had the Power, Space, Reality AND Soul gems. I highly doubt a little portal would have ANY effect on him. He had the Space gem, that already negates Strange's portals.

IMO, the only reason Mantis' mental attack was effective is because Thanos didn't have the Mind Stone at the time.

 

[MrWayne]

Movie wise I was also wondering how would anyone know how to use the gauntlet. Like how did Thanos know how to use the stones as he did? His battle with Strange made him seem like he had already mastered the use of the stones the way he was attacking and counter-attacking.

Better example, how did Thanos know that he could turn back time to get to Vision? How did he even know how to do that with the time stone?

Do you think the stones make the wearer/user self informed?

Even if in A4 if someone else is to wield the gauntlet... how would they know what to do to get the stones to work to do what they needed it to do?


These are the things that keep me up at night! LOL

 

[Spider-Fan]

Strange learned to use the time stone from reading a book that taught him about it. Thanos I take it learned a great deal about the stones in his quest, so he knew what they were capable of.

 

[LoganPool]

Strange learned to use the time stone from reading a book that taught him about it. Thanos I take it learned a great deal about the stones in his quest, so he knew what they were capable of.

This. 100% agree that Thanos did massive amounts of research before starting his quest. This would also explain how he knew who Stark was. Surly, the mad titan behind the Chitari invasion of NYC, knows who was responsible for their demise.