Avengers the Initiative

[Dread]

Yeah, I forgot that story where Pym is so much of a loser, Skrulls literally inherit his loser-ness when they become him and kill themselves. Ah, that crazy Bendis. He's a card.

I bet if a Skrull took his form, it would be useless to the empire because all it would do is stand by a wall talking to itself. And always the same hundred words or so.

 

[imdaly]

Also, it may have been one of the defective Skrullpym's that went and knocked up Tigra. It doesn't make it any less.....f**ked up, but you know, at least the daddy wasn't a complete *****e.

Lol. She knows who the daddy is...but she doesn't know who the daddy is.

I want to see THAT episode of "Maury"!

 

[Dread]

Lol. She knows who the daddy is...but she doesn't know who the daddy is.

I want to see THAT episode of "Maury"!

Why not? He sure loves his maternity blood tests.

 

[BrianWilly]

Y'know, technically, Hank and Tigra may have slept with the same Skrull.

Think thoughts about that.

 

[chamber-music]

Tigra seemed to imply that she may terminate the pregnancy. Considering it was a Skrull playing a role, it may feel like being date-raped or something to her. Between that and the pistol-whipping from Jigsaw, it's been a rough 18 months for Tigra.

Getting beaten up by the Hood, turned into a sex-slave by Puppet Master, beaten up by a street gang, then killed, in House of M: Avengers and got pregnant with a skrull baby.

Yep sucks being Tigra

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Y'know, technically, Hank and Tigra may have slept with the same Skrull.

Think thoughts about that.

Aw

 

[moraldeficiency]

well I was off on the mutant zero reveal. If it had been someone big like jean grey I'd still think I was right, but considering who it is I doubt it. Some of her stuff does seem odd though (superspeed, only using her powers once a day?) but all and all it fits enough.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh. It sort of diminished Mutant Zero for me because I've always thought Typhoid Mary was stupid.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yup

 

[moraldeficiency]

she's a good daredevil antagonist, but what she's done seems way out of her league.

 

[The Superman]

It was a bit of an anticlimax for me. I've never really liked Typhoid Mary, and I was expecting someone a lot bigger. What happened to "people who don't even follow comics regularly will know who it is"?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, she was in the Elektra movie (kind of) and the name is recognizable to people because of the historical Typhoid Mary.

 

[chamber-music]

I like to pretend the Elektra movie never happened

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But it had that dude from ER and everything.

 

[chamber-music]

I should of known better when Terence Stamp turned up in the movie. Stamp would star in movies his old pal Micheal Caine wouldn't even wanna appear in and Caine starred in that horrible killer bees movie and the worst of the Jaws sequels.

 

[Dread]

Typhoid Mary made sense in a way but on the other she seemed way too powerful as Mutant Zero and all that. Granted, she could only maintain it for brief spurts, and with Order-esque treatments or Night-Thrasher like technology you can give or augment anyone with any power, really. But, at the end of the day it wasn't a big deal to me, probably because I am looking forward to Slott on MA and seeing where Gage takes the book solo.

And, yes, 2008 was a bad year for Tigra. So bad that it inspired Newsarama's blog to claim she is a character to rehab:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/01/05/rehab-this-character-tigra/

Interesting read, especially the replies.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They should put Tigra on Team Stabby. I don't think she's a mutant, but who cares?

Edit: After reading some of the comments on that blog Dread linked to and seeing so much praise for the Tigra mini-series from a few years ago, I bought it on eBay just now. I hope it's as good as they say. I have fond memories of Tigra from the West Coast Avengers, so it's been rough seeing her put through the wringer just because Bendis doesn't like her. It should be nice to read a story that treats her as an actual character instead of a sex toy, a victimized cliché, or a damsel in distress.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Tigra doesn't brood and sulk enough to be on Team Stabby

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She could start after the s*** she's been through.

 

[RockSP]

She'd just end up having non-stop three ways with Logan and Domino.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think she'd end up slapping Logan.

Wolverine: Oh, woe is me, I can't remember my past!
Tigra: Yeah? Ever been beaten to within an inch of your life, magically made into an old man's slave, and impregnated by an alien imposter within a 6-month period before?
Wolverine: ... Well, I don't think so--
Tigra: Then suck it up, grow a pair, and get out of my face!

 

[chamber-music]

Feral or Thorne if they are not dead or in limbo should join Team Stab.

Does Tigra actully have fans?
Do people actully buy comics that say featuring Tigra?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I just bought a mini-series with her. I like her, I just don't think anything good's been done with her lately.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I think Feral died during that arc where Sabretooth did

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What a useless character. She and Shatterstar were probably the most worthless characters I've ever seen in a comic.