Batman: Arkham Origins - Part 5

[Boom]

Baker def needs to reprise the joker role in any capacity possible.

It was just an all around phenomenal performance, coupled with great animation.

As much of a god as Hamill is, the AO Joker blows the AA and AC versions of the character out of the water.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Along those lines I guess it says something that my reaction to multiple back to back freezes was to TURN THE GAME BACK ON IMMEDIATELY.

Lol, so was mine. Guess that's why I got hit with the corrupt save.

 

[jacobed]

Wow that's crazy. I play videogames like crazy and even my favourite games ever (Mass Effect, Fallout 3, etc.) I've only played through 5 times max. But, then again, they're all, like, 40+hour playthroughs, so maybe it's not so crazy.


Did anyone else find it kinda weird how this game essentially introduced all the rogues in one night? I mean, I like the whole "year one" thing they've got going, but it seems kind of far fetched that Batman runs into all these major villains for the first time over the course of a few in-game hours. I understand they obviously want to put a lot of characters in, but it would've been neat if he'd had run-ins with a few of them already.

Well the only main ones are Killer Croc, Joker, Riddler. Everyone else is such low tier or not really his rogues gallery

 

[Balthus Dire]

No love for Bane?


Even still, it's kind of crazy for Batman to run into literally all of them in the same night for the first time. In the other games it kinda made more sense because they were A) all in the asylum or B) all trapped within Arkham City. Here it's just like they all happen to decide to make their appearance on the same night.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Also, the combat seriously feels different to me this time. It's like the enemies attack faster or something. They also seem to be able to hit you from further away; sometimes they do these leaping flying knees and stuff and hit me from halfway across the damn screen. I just got destroyed by a big mob because for some reason my counters were barely working even though I was pressing them correctly. It's weird. It's almost like I press counter when I see the prompt, but then before Batman counters the move the enemy finishes the "punch" animation and still hits you.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

He also runs into Barbara that night as well.

 

[Broseph44]

No love for Bane?


Even still, it's kind of crazy for Batman to run into literally all of them in the same night for the first time. In the other games it kinda made more sense because they were A) all in the asylum or B) all trapped within Arkham City. Here it's just like they all happen to decide to make their appearance on the same night.

Dude, they were all there to kill batman for the $50 mil. That's why they were all there on the same night, and thus why it was the first time he met any of them. Prior to them it was mostly mob bosses and what not. Not many super villains yet. Or did all of this just go over your head? The whole concept of the game having the assassins come out to kill him. Oy vey.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Dude, they were all there to kill batman for the $50 mil. That's why they were all there on the same night, and thus why it was the first time he met any of them. Prior to them it was mostly mob bosses and what not. Not many super villains yet. Or did all of this just go over your head? The whole concept of the game having the assassins come out to kill him. Oy vey.

Try not to have an aneurysm, brah.

I get that most of them are hired to kill Batman. So what? They could've established that he'd at least run into or been familiar with some of them prior to the fact. I'm not saying it's horrid storytelling or anything close to it...just that it seems a little goofy that Batman runs into the vast majority of his rogues gallery for the first time on the same night.

It's like the way they're presenting it, one day Batman is a myth and the next day everyone knows of his existence and he also has a full rogues gallery of villains lol. Kind of a quick escalation, no?

 

[Broseph44]

Try not to have an aneurysm, brah.

I get that most of them are hired to kill Batman. So what? They could've established that he'd at least run into or been familiar with some of them prior to the fact. I'm not saying it's horrid storytelling or anything close to it...just that it seems a little goofy that Batman runs into the vast majority of his rogues gallery for the first time on the same night.

It's like the way they're presenting it, one day Batman is a myth and the next day everyone knows of his existence and he also has a full rogues gallery of villains lol. Kind of a quick escalation, no?

I don't really see how it's goofy or anything but that's just me, brah.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

[Broseph44]

Well, yeah I guess it is, just like, my opinion man. Just like yours, is like, your opinion. Brah.

 

[Broseph44]

So those of you who've played the online how is it? I still haven't checked it out but will probably get around to it eventually. Curious if it's fun to mess around with for a while.

 

[zenith16]

Ok let's just chill broseph let's try not to be in some other poster's face's here. there are some people that choose to be on info lock out cause they didn't want to be spoiled. Sometimes it also results in stuff like this.

Balthus they are pretty much doing the same formula as the did with the other Arkham title's prior to this. But they said that batman seemed to have had a run in with Death stroke at least prior to this event.

Now whether or not they show this via DLC? WE'll have to see.


As for the combat it was mention by Reviewer 's and fan's a like even the stuff pat said said about having to do 10 tries with death stroke was said by Scott C Jones of EPD.TV/ROTR. And this was prior to pat and a few other posters saying this They ratcheted up the combat but it seem's there are a few issues there frame rate wise.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I played through City like 3 times but the combat challenges regularly played them for 2 years. I'd love a sequel to this game as long as it has the same writer, love this Batman more than the other 2 games characterization of him. Much more. Long Halloween esque game is a great idea

Obviously not a direct adaptation of The Long Halloween, but yeah, would be a good idea.

I'd love to have Harvey Dent as an important character and have the final encounter of the game be against Two-Face. There's a lot to mine from the relationship with Batman, Dent, and Gordon.

 

[John Locke]

No love for Bane?

It seemed like he did have a history with Bane already or at least knew who he was. He also knew of Riddler he just wasn't called that yet. But I think it makes sense because they were all after Batman because of a certain person and that guy makes a point to hire the crazies.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Getting that Shiva trophy is going to be a *****.

 

[Darkness Falls]

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

No love for Bane?


Even still, it's kind of crazy for Batman to run into literally all of them in the same night for the first time. In the other games it kinda made more sense because they were A) all in the asylum or B) all trapped within Arkham City. Here it's just like they all happen to decide to make their appearance on the same night.

Its a video game man. If they don't do that, fans b***h that there aren't enough villains. I also think he had some history with a few of these guys, or at least he knew of them and vice versa(Wilson, Cobblepot, Sionis, Lawton, Shiva, there were some familiarity between) We also know that in the 2 years since he's become Batman, he's started making a name for himself throughout Gothams more capable criminals. So mercs showing up to snag a 50 mill bounty isn't that much of a stretch. Hell even if they had NO idea who the Batman was they A) didn't care, its 50 million bux or B) were brought up to speed by Sionis.

On another note, that Slade Wilson fight is totally different with attack counters on. Since my save was erased iv had to start over and when i got to that battle i turned the attack counters on and I had NO idea you could counter his counters.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Its a video game man. If they don't do that, fans b***h that there aren't enough villains. I also think he had some history with a few of these guys, or at least he knew of them and vice versa(Wilson, Cobblepot, Sionis, Lawton, Shiva, there were some familiarity between) We also know that in the 2 years since he's become Batman, he's started making a name for himself throughout Gothams more capable criminals. So mercs showing up to snag a 50 mill bounty isn't that much of a stretch. Hell even if they had NO idea who the Batman was they A) didn't care, its 50 million bux or B) were brought up to speed by Sionis.

Oh, I understand the logic behind it, and I actually think the hitman angle is pretty cool. I'm not saying I have an issue with the amount of villains, just that I just find myself wishing they kinda weaved those backstories in a bit more. Like you said, Batman seems to have history with a few of them (Bane, Black Mask) but they don't really touch on it (at least, not so far). Joker mentions that Batman has been active for 2 years, so it would've been more plausible to me if Batman had run-ins with a few of these guys during that time. Not all of them, but even a few of them. But I haven't finished the game yet, so who knows...maybe they dip into it a bit later.

It's such a minor thing lol it's not even something I find all that important, just would've been nice to have a bit more meat there, I guess.

 

[Rincewind]

No love for Bane?


Even still, it's kind of crazy for Batman to run into literally all of them in the same night for the first time. In the other games it kinda made more sense because they were A) all in the asylum or B) all trapped within Arkham City. Here it's just like they all happen to decide to make their appearance on the same night.

Well, first off, the game is set in a much earlier point in Batman's life. And it seems that up until this Christmas Eve, he had dealt mostly with mobster types like the Falcones, Black Mask, Penguin and so on. He wasn't even familiar with Killer Croc even though he appeared in the beginning of the game. Not to mention that this is the first appearance of big villains like the Joker or Riddler into this universe, and others like Two-Face and Scarecrow apparently don't exist yet.

As to how crazy it is to run into all of those villains in the same night, remember that Bane, Deathstroke, Copperhead, Shiva, Deadshot, Electrocutioner and Firefly are paid to go after Batman - they are hired assassins that have come to Gotham with the specific purpose to meet Batman and take him out. And others, like Mad Hatter or the Riddler seem to be emerging just now because they want to take advantage of the overall chaos in the city caused by Batman's war against Black Mask and the assassins with the police in the middle; but the complexity of their plans and preparations suggest that they each have been planning it for some time now. It's just that this particular Christmas Eve is a perfect opportunity.

 

[Broseph44]

Well, first off, the game is set in a much earlier point in Batman's life. And it seems that up until this Christmas Eve, he had dealt mostly with mobster types like the Falcones, Black Mask, Penguin and so on. He wasn't even familiar with Killer Croc even though he appeared in the beginning of the game. Not to mention that this is the first appearance of big villains like the Joker or Riddler into this universe, and others like Two-Face and Scarecrow apparently don't exist yet.

As to how crazy it is to run into all of those villains in the same night, remember that Bane, Deathstroke, Copperhead, Shiva, Deadshot, Electrocutioner and Firefly are paid to go after Batman - they are hired assassins that have come to Gotham with the specific purpose to meet Batman and take him out. And others, like Mad Hatter or the Riddler seem to be emerging just now because they want to take advantage of the overall chaos in the city caused by Batman's war against Black Mask and the assassins with the police in the middle; but the complexity of their plans and preparations suggest that they each have been planning it for some time now. It's just that this particular Christmas Eve is a perfect opportunity.

Exactly, nailed it this is what I was saying.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Yeah, but Batman has been active for 2 full years...what were all those rogues doing beforehand? Working 9-5 jobs? Going to SuperVillain school? I mean, if they were committing crimes during those 2 years then Batman did a terrible job confronting them about it, no?

It just seems like the game sometimes plays it like it's just early in Batman's career and he's still getting familiar with these villains, but then other times it seems like it's legit the first time Batman has come into the public eye and it's the first time he's meeting all the villains, in which case it just seems implausible unless he's been doing an awful job as Batman.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well it seems like for most of them, they haven't been operating in Gotham. Hence why Batman says "Bane is here? In Gotham?"

And he shows history and knowledge of Shiva, Bane, Black Mask and Slade. I think that's enough for me.

I mean, people like Penguin aren't even barely established. I overheard one thug talking to another and rubbishing Penguin, saying "He ain't as scary as old man Falcone!" Gotham is clearly a city that isn't even used to these characters.

 

[zenith16]

Yeah, but Batman has been active for 2 full years...what were all those rogues doing beforehand? Working 9-5 jobs? Going to SuperVillain school? I mean, if they were committing crimes during those 2 years then Batman did a terrible job confronting them about it, no?

It just seems like the game sometimes plays it like it's just early in Batman's career and he's still getting familiar with these villains, but then other times it seems like it's legit the first time Batman has come into the public eye and it's the first time he's meeting all the villains, in which case it just seems implausible unless he's been doing an awful job as Batman.

Part of that was already answered he's seen as a urban legend where some criminal's that have seen him are treated as loons till this night took place by cops and so on. It's a see it to believe thing.

Especially Where the cops like Gorden treated him as such. While the criminals like the mob boss's and their thugs knew of him cause he ruins their work and putting some of them jail by leaving them knock out for the cops to find and running into him. He's mostly stuck to the shadows.

Those other minus Penquin , this is the first time with them coming to town and making themselves known. But there may have been hints from other crimes they have committed like where Riddlers involved of whom he seems aware of but hasn't truly met till now .

Some like death stroke he may have met from his travels or on a job death stroke has done prior to this. But yeah as I and the other's have stated he has a history with some of them atleast and hope fully they may show that as they're doing with Bruce's training as a ninja, prior to all this since that was already planned as DLC.

They might do that as well with some of those they have hinted at of which he had a run in with and history with .

 

[DareDemon]

I just wanna say, pretty sure the game is cheating with Deathstroke on new game plus. Countering works randomly, punches landed randomly, and avoiding his remote claw attack only randomly works. I gave up after like 10 tries.

I beat him the first try on my first playthrough!

Also, Cyrus' plaques and the Anarky tags are gonna take forever to find. Got all Riddler collectibles though