BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

[dalonewolf]

It'll be a factor. I didn't say how much because no one knows. But previous installments DO have an effect based on how people liked what came before. You saying it'll be negligable is just as much an assumption as me saying it'll be significant in it's effect. Truth is we just don't know what extent it'll be to.

And every single one of the phase 1 films had at least a solid majority of critics behind it and the sales also attested to consumers agreeing with them for the most part. None of them were split like MoS or TASM2(which are two that are very comparable).

MoS had a not good 2.25X multiplier for a reason. That's a notably worse multiplier than any MCU film ever had.

Age of ultron drops wasn't so great by the way it really preformed just like man of steel just had a bigger opening weekend

 

[Jekecy]

Age of ultron drops wasn't so great by the way it really preformed just like man of steel just had a bigger opening weekend

Having equivalent drops with a far larger opening speaks volumes in favor of AoU...

 

[STARMAN]

The divided reaction to MOS would be more detrimental if this was a standalone MOS sequel. Batman along with the intrigue of the expanding DC universe should negate those effects and allow BvS to start on an even footing again.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

If Man of Steel's rotten tomato score is such a concern for this movie, why did Man Of Steel dominate blu ray sales? People act like Man of Steel didn't make WB 3/4s of a billion. It did.

 

[dalonewolf]

Having equivalent drops with a far larger opening speaks volumes in favor of AoU...

Man of steel came closer to tripling it's o.w
Than age of ultron did

 

[Jekecy]

Man of steel came closer to tripling it's o.w
Than age of ultron did

Doesn't address my point; a far larger opening weekend would of course have a higher probability of lower multipliers. For the simple fact that it was heavily front-loaded.

A film with an opening weekend of 100 million and OW multiplier of 5, still doesn't outdo a film with an opening weekend of 300 million and OW multiplier of just 2.

There are other indicators which can be gleamed by consistent numbers, such as longevity and word of mouth. But as far as 1st to 2nd weekend drops, you really can't compare one which is breaking records left and right, and another one which is just doing well for the season.

 

[dalonewolf]

Doesn't address my point; a far larger opening weekend would of course have a higher probability of lower multipliers. For the simple fact that it was heavily front-loaded.

A film with an opening weekend of 100 million and OW multiplier of 5, still doesn't outdo a film with an opening weekend of 300 million and OW multiplier of just 2.

There are other indicators which can be gleamed by consistent numbers, such as longevity and word of mouth. But as far as 1st to 2nd weekend drops, you really can't compare one which is breaking records left and right, and another one which is just doing well for the season.

Can you do me a favor and read the comment I responded to
He said man of steel has a wrost mutiplier than any marvel flim
When age of ultron multiplier isn't all that great
There no way that flim should have came short of 500mil.

It's weekdays was low compared to Jurrasic world's weekdays when age of ultron only open a few million less
Jurassic world frist Monday 25 mil
Age of ultron 13mil
To me age of ultron was the wrost domestic performance marvel has had in a long time

 

[superboy13]

Five quintillion dollars.

 

[dalonewolf]

Doesn't address my point; a far larger opening weekend would of course have a higher probability of lower multipliers. For the simple fact that it was heavily front-loaded.

A film with an opening weekend of 100 million and OW multiplier of 5, still doesn't outdo a film with an opening weekend of 300 million and OW multiplier of just 2.

There are other indicators which can be gleamed by consistent numbers, such as longevity and word of mouth. But as far as 1st to 2nd weekend drops, you really can't compare one which is breaking records left and right, and another one which is just doing well for the season.

And explain the dark knight
Who had open 30mil less than age of ultron but grossed 80 mil more domestically

 

[kedrell]

Age of ultron drops wasn't so great by the way it really preformed just like man of steel just had a bigger opening weekend

AoU will finish with about a 2.4X multiplier which is around average and considerably higher than MoS's 2.25X. Other than some Twilight films(which are notoriously frontloaded due to appealing exclusively to Twi-hards and pretty much nobody else) MoS has I think the highest opening weekend that still failed to cross $300m domestic. That's not a feather in it's cap.

 

[kedrell]

The divided reaction to MOS would be more detrimental if this was a standalone MOS sequel. Batman along with the intrigue of the expanding DC universe should negate those effects and allow BvS to start on an even footing again.

That is the hope WB has and is why they went BvS rather than MoS2. but this DCCU is but 1 film in so far and so they haven't gone very far with getting casual audience members caught up in all the continuity(which I'd argue tends to become an investment for them the longer a series goes and increases the chances of them showing up for the next movie).

 

[Jekecy]

Can you do me a favor and read the comment I responded to
He said man of steel has a wrost mutiplier than any marvel flim
When age of ultron multiplier isn't all that great
There no way that flim should have came short of 500mil.

It's weekdays was low compared to Jurrasic world's weekdays when age of ultron only open a few million less
Jurassic world frist Monday 25 mil
Age of ultron 13mil
To me age of ultron was the wrost domestic performance marvel has had in a long time

Well I suppose if it's true in your heart then that is all that matters.

And explain the dark knight
Who had open 30mil less than age of ultron but grossed 80 mil more domestically

What's there to explain? TDK had a better reception. There is no one here who would argue that.

Downplaying the performance of a film in the top 10 box office of all time is absurd. All that means is Avengers' at its worst still beat out 99% of its competition. Doesn't sound like much of a loss at all.

 

[kedrell]

Man of steel came closer to tripling it's o.w
Than age of ultron did

You're ignoring the Wal-Mart sales which should be truly counted as part of the OW. True, it's an unusual circumstance as no other movie in memory did something like that but it's still money spent on tickets by consumers before the end of it's first weekend. IM2 opened with around the same OW number yet finished $21m higher and that just had an average multiplier of 2.43X which is nothing spectacular.

 

[kedrell]

Can you do me a favor and read the comment I responded to
He said man of steel has a wrost mutiplier than any marvel flim
When age of ultron multiplier isn't all that great
There no way that flim should have came short of 500mil.

It's weekdays was low compared to Jurrasic world's weekdays when age of ultron only open a few million less
Jurassic world frist Monday 25 mil
Age of ultron 13mil
To me age of ultron was the wrost domestic performance marvel has had in a long time

Actually IM3 is the MCU film with the worst legs with a 2.35X multiplier and that's still well higher than MoS's 2.25X.

 

[dalonewolf]

Actually IM3 is the MCU film with the worst legs with a 2.35X multiplier and that's still well higher than MoS's 2.25X.

I forget you all look over marvels hiccups
If you think marvel only wanted age of ultron to gross 460 mil dom
Your delusional
Truth is truth .
I'm not trying to down play age of ultron
But in my non-bias opinion
Age of ultron should have been a domestic monster nothing short of 500dom

 

[dalonewolf]

Well I suppose if it's true in your heart then that is all that matters.


What's there to explain? TDK had a better reception. There is no one here who would argue that.

Downplaying the performance of a film in the top 10 box office of all time is absurd. All that means is Avengers' at its worst still beat out 99% of its competition. Doesn't sound like much of a loss at all.

Pretty funny how you can down play mos success but I guess only marvel movies makes money huh

 

[Jekecy]

Pretty funny how you can down play mos success but I guess only marvel movies makes money huh

Didn't say a single thing about MOS. Your insecurities are showing.

 

[JKKS085]

How can anyone even compare MoS and AoU ? That's crazy talk.
MoS is the first film in a new franchise, sa naturally less likely to be as frontloaded as a straight sequel as AOU, and still it's multiplier is an extremely mediocre 2.26. That is nowhere near tripling its ow gross.
AOU is a naturally frontloaded sequel, still playing in theaters that already displays a 2.38 multiplier. There's no denying, even before the end of its theater run, that it held better than MoS. That's maths.

So calling MoS a success and AoU a disappointment based on that parameter alone is showing an insane bias.

 

[joeshmow014]

MOS is the first and only movie so far in the DCCU where as Marvel is 11 movies in...to me the right box office comparison to make is to compare MOS against all 5 of Marvel's phase 1 movies and MOS has out grossed all those movies pretty soundly as well as making more than Iron Man 2 and Thor 2...The Avengers exploded the box office for Marvel but that was after years of cultivating their brand and fanbase...the DCCU is just getting started and BvS is going to be movie #2.

 

[dalonewolf]

Didn't say a single thing about MOS. Your insecurities are showing.

Did you ever read the comment I responded to ??? Your marvel fan boy is showing

 

[Jekecy]

Did you ever read the comment I responded to ??? Your marvel fan boy is showing

What you were responding to has no bearing on what I said to you. You are insanely overprotective over the most trivial of things, and what's worse is you are progressively showcasing your lack of understanding of basic mathematics.

I barely even post in any of the Marvel boards or even have much to praise them on, so once again your insecurities are clouding your perspective.

I'm embarrassed to have taken part in a boring and futile discussion, so I'll cease before it gets worse.

 

[JKKS085]

MOS is the first and only movie so far in the DCCU where as Marvel is 11 movies in...to me the right box office comparison to make is to compare MOS against all 5 of Marvel's phase 1 movies and MOS has out grossed all those movies pretty soundly as well as making more than Iron Man 2 and Thor 2

Exactly. But then again the international Box Office was way bigger in 2013 than it was in 2008 or 2010, also MoS had 3D unlike the first two Iron Man films. MoS had the opportunity to bank on a widely known character that had a lot of previous incarnations (wether its in movies or TV) whereas Marvel had to use C-list characters mostly unknown from the general audience, producing films on a much smaller scale with way lower budgets than what WB spent on MoS.
I think the more accurate comparison should be with Guardians of the Galaxy in which the Marvel brand somehow offsets the fact that the characters themselves were mostly unknown. Also you have similar-ish international markets, 3D and PLS.

But aside from raw numbers, the fact that no Marvel film yet, in the 11 film they released (so that's plenty of opportunities to fail) displayed a multiplier as weak as MoS. And in general their "origin stories" all held a whole lot better.

 

[dalonewolf]

Oui

 

[dalonewolf]

I'm embarrassed to have taken part in a boring and futile discussion, so I'll cease before it gets worse.[/QUOTE]

Look im truly sorry you all wasn't satisfied with man of steel but I promise you bvs will make up I'm boxoffice and for whatever you dislike about it

 

[dalonewolf]

Exactly. But then again the international Box Office was way bigger in 2013 than it was in 2008 or 2010, also MoS had 3D unlike the first two Iron Man films. MoS had the opportunity to bank on a widely known character that had a lot of previous incarnations (wether its in movies or TV) whereas Marvel had to use C-list characters mostly unknown from the general audience, producing films on a much smaller scale with way lower budgets than what WB spent on MoS.
I think the more accurate comparison should be with Guardians of the Galaxy in which the Marvel brand somehow offsets the fact that the characters themselves were mostly unknown. Also you have similar-ish international markets, 3D and PLS.

But aside from raw numbers, the fact that no Marvel film yet, in the 11 film they released (so that's plenty of opportunities to fail) displayed a multiplier as weak as MoS. And in general their "origin stories" all held a whole lot better.

0,p. 6
It's funny how bvs trailers drops and people come out to find a way to bash man of steel
Make your predictions and move on
Because no matter how you slice it the movie was still a bigger success than any marvel phease 1 flimbesides the avengers
668ww
106 home video sales
170 product placement
Now put up all the origin flims numbers
I'm waiting
In my Lex Voice
The fan boys are coming,
The fan boys are coming