BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

[Tec15]

Can't believe how many people are still engaging with kedrell. Ask him instead how he thinks both TDK and TDKR are among the worst films ever made. Srsly.

 

[superboy13]

Can't believe how many people are still engaging with kedrell. Ask him instead how he thinks both TDK and TDKR are among the worst films ever made. Srsly.

While TDK is great, TDKR is a giant mess. Definitely Nolan's worst film to date and the worst Batman film not to include George Clooney. Just terrible.

 

[HaplessHenchman]

With all due respect, kids absolutely will be going to see BvS, as they did with Man of Steel. Language is not an issue for most families. Would my parents have taken me to see films with language and violence when I was 7 or 10? No. But, just like with the Marvel and Fox and even Sony cbms, parents overwhelmingly will take their kids to see these movies. In the 21st century society, this is considered acceptable for children. WB will not be losing money because of the language and violence.

I have no doubt that you are right. I'm sure some parents will take their kids to see BM v SM, as I'm sure they took their kids to see MOS. By the way, when I say the term "kid", I am mainly thinking about children like mine that are under the age of 10, not teenagers or tweens.

Personally, as a parent, I feel it is my responsibility to preview a movie to see it is acceptable for my children. In the case of MOS, I decided to not let them see it because I don't want to have to explain to my daughter what the terms "d***splash" or "measuring d***s" mean. In a few years? Yes, she can watch it. But not yet. (In case you are wondering, my wife agrees. )

To your point though, I'm not a holy roller and will never tell anyone else how to raise their children. If you feel the rest of society will take their children to see BM v SM without previewing it themselves first then that is fair enough. I have no argument to make that can convince you they won't.

Heck, I'm hoping and praying you are right so I can take my kids to see it. I think it would be an awesome experience for us as they have seen the entire Bruce Timm animated universe and love it. My daughter particularly wants to see WW on the big screen.

 

[G.Godfrey]

While TDK is great, TDKR is a giant mess. Definitely Nolan's worst film to date and the worst Batman film not to include George Clooney. Just terrible.

I agree. Very much agree. I also think that while TDK is a very good crime/thriller/action movie, it's not that good of a Batman movie, thanks to that awful costume, awful lispy Bat-voice, awful ''open mouth and breathless'' Bale Batman performance, awful ''Batmobile'' (yes I know it's called the tumbler) awf...bah, we're going way off topic. I can already see the red names coming. The red names are coming!


And so to not go too off topic, I predict a $210 million OW (record), great legs and a $1.7 billion WW total. Come at me naysayers!

 

[joeshmow014]

I don't think the "darkness" of this movie is going to be a hindrance to it at all...The Dark Knight was also very dark and edgy but it was so well executed it still made $550 million domestic...this has Batman and Batman means $$BANK$$...so if it's well made, add Snyder's gift for visuals, the interest level is already off the charts with the trailer locking in over 50 million views in it's first four days(youtube and facebook combined)...$180+Mil OW is what I believe it's looking at.

 

[Iceman]

I don't think the "darkness" of this movie is going to be a hindrance to it at all...The Dark Knight was also very dark and edgy but it was so well executed it still made $550 million domestic...this has Batman and Batman means $$BANK$$...so if it's well made, add Snyder's gift for visuals, the interest level is already off the charts with the trailer locking in over 50 million views in it's first four days(youtube and facebook combined)...$180+Mil OW is what I believe it's looking at.

TDK was so well received though that you can't account for how much more it might have done with the young kids that can watch other tamer comic book movies. Of course going slightly tamer might have reduced its impact on adults so it's a balancing act. But I think it's pretty clear when considering taking a young kid to TDK there is a decision to be made while with many other films in the genre that decision is a far simpler one. I think BvS is going to be tamer and more kid-friendly than TDK and if it has the quality of TDK will do a lot more at the BO.

 

[Legendver2]

I don't think the "darkness" of this movie is going to be a hindrance to it at all...The Dark Knight was also very dark and edgy but it was so well executed it still made $550 million domestic...this has Batman and Batman means $$BANK$$...so if it's well made, add Snyder's gift for visuals, the interest level is already off the charts with the trailer locking in over 50 million views in it's first four days(youtube and facebook combined)...$180+Mil OW is what I believe it's looking at.

I really REALLY hate to say it, and although I loved TDK, I do have to factor in the reason it probably did better than most thought was due to Ledger's tragic passing. Probably the same reason why Furious 7 was killing it earlier this year. Not to knock on any of the two films though, since I loved them both.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I think the majority of the genre are going to have 'go to' 12A certificates to them as a rule, but I'm not saying 'go dark' for the sake of it, and neither am I 'shut the kids away from seeing this' but a balance must be there and I think with the directors chosen thus far for DC films, their own inherent streak seems to be to push a 12A as far as they can, but of course any certicate given above a 12A will have a detrimental effect on possible Box Office.

 

[Val_Zod]

I agree with your "family" take. When BM v SM comes out, I will have a 10 year old daughter and a 7 year old son. I still have not show them MOS because of the random cussing and the violence and I will not show them BM v SM either until I have previewed it first.

How this affects the box office, I don't know. If it turns out to be acceptable for children, WB may be getting my money twice. If not, it will still appeal to adults and may go gangbusters anyway.

It will not have an effect. Every single comicbook movie has had cussing in it. And the violence in MOS was not that gratuitous in all honesty. Families will take their kids to see Batman v Superman, and a lot of little girls will go for Wonder Woman.

 

[Verick808]

I recall even the Spiderman movies had swearing in them. Seeing as kids are growing up watching Got and Trueblood I doubt BvS has anything to worry about. It won't be any worse than most pg-13 action flicks

 

[theotherme]

I think the "family friendliness" is possibly a factor, but only to a point. Movies that get really huge often have a core of repeat theatre viewers, and that core tends to be teen and up - I might take my 10 year old to see a "family" movie once, but I'm not going to take her 3 times in the theatre (she can watch it to death at home within months)

Speaking of my 10 year old, she has not seen MOS yet (though she has seen most of the MCU films) but she will see it before March When MOS came out, I did think it was a little too intense for her, but there's quite a difference between 8 and 10. And I will take her (then 11, and my 15 year old daughter) to see BvS because she will be with me and we can all discuss it afterwards. And yes, WW is a huge draw for her.

 

[dalonewolf]

Damn Josh whedon just downplayed age of ultron
https://youtu.be/QgikeX8gEU0
And they say it's a good flim smh

 

[Val_Zod]

Damn Josh whedon just downplayed age of ultron
https://youtu.be/QgikeX8gEU0
And they say it's a good flim smh

That is not relevant to the main topic of this thread.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

No way are families and children going to avoid BvS. Batman fandom is gargantuan. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, aka "the trinity" of DC. They're already in line.

The trailer blew everyone away, converted many a M****l purist, and we know that while we got a very nice taste, much, much more lurks within the context of the full experience, just like MoS.

Why should Ant-Man have a buffer zone when MoS faced off against both Monsters U. and WWZ, another big budget production tailored to fans of the ongoing zombie craze? I'll never understand why so many criticize MoS as being a failure when it also made another 100M on home video.

BvS will be a different story.

That summer was crazy. I remember seeing MOS only once in theaters. Was planning on watching it a second time but my friends decided last minute on WWZ because zombies. Week after that I took my baby sis to MU. Week after that Despicable Me 2 with my brother

Ended up broke so I just decided to wait for the blu-ray

 

[dalonewolf]

That is not relevant to the main topic of this thread.

I know just can't believe a director will say something like that really was shocked tbh

 

[Rowsdower!]

$4.1 trillion.


Domestic.



Write that down.

 

[8ulk]

.$180+Mil OW is what I believe it's looking at.

im not sure 180 will happen but im pretty sure 150+ mil O.W. is a safe bet


and after people realize its a great movie (if it is ofc) it can have a small drop with a 80-90 mil 2nd weekend possibly with a 400+ mil total domestic gross.

1) a lot of people think Superman is lame and disliked MOS
2) a lot of people still think Batffleck is lame
3) a lot of people think Zack Snyder is lame
4) and even more people are still s*****g Nolans d**** or hate the fact Bale is not in it and may not attend.

so 180 mil OW would be hard i think. but i hope im wrong.

 

[brandeezy89]

im not sure 180 will happen but im pretty sure 150+ mil O.W. is a safe bet


and after people realize its a great movie (if it is ofc) it can have a small drop with a 80-90 mil 2nd weekend possibly with a 400+ mil total domestic gross.

1) a lot of people think Superman is lame and disliked MOS
2) a lot of people still think Batffleck is lame
3) a lot of people think Zack Snyder is lame
4) and even more people are still s*****g Nolans d**** or hate the fact Bale is not in it and may not attend.

so 180 mil OW would be hard i think. but i hope im wrong.

I think you're over thinking it. There's a lot of people that admit even though they didn't like MOS they're going to still see it because it's freaking Batman, Superman & Wonder Woman on the big screen for the 1st time in cinema history. If it's promoted right, I can see it beating out JW for the top spot, if not then one of the Avengers movies but nothing less than the Top 5 imo.

 

[tnekkralc]

My pessimistic prediction is 800-900 million worldwide, optimistically 1.3 - 1.5 billion - on par with Avengers. If BvS is a hit then I think Justice League is the one to keep an eye on for breaking serious records

I really hope it becomes the biggest box office hit all of all time, but for that to happen it would have to gross 2.8 billion...yikes!!

 

[Val_Zod]

My pessimistic prediction is 800-900 million worldwide, optimistically 1.3 - 1.5 billion - on par with Avengers. If BvS is a hit then I think Justice League is the one to keep an eye on for breaking serious records

I really hope it becomes the biggest box office hit all of all time, but for that to happen it would have to gross 2.8 billion...yikes!!

I'm going to be honest, I think BvS has a better shot of breaking records than Justice League for several reasons

1. The novelty factor of seeing Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman on the same screen will be at its hottest.

2. BvS will be the first Event film after Star Wars. 3 months, whereas both Justice League parts are in much more crowded releases. People will be more starved for a big blockbuster after Star Wars, and the longer wait.

3. We don't know what the landscape will be like after 2016. Comicbook movie fatigue could slowly kick in, especially if 2016's and 2017 first half lineup delivers one stinker among them. Would hurt JL especially if a DC movie releasing before it's release, like BvS and/or WW disappoint.

4. JL will simply add what the general audience considers the B team, whereas BvS is introducing all of DC's biggest heroes together working in a semi Justice League fashion at the end.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Who knows how this goes oversees. Batman and Superman haven't exactly killed in that department

 

[Bruce Malone]

I'm going to be honest, I think BvS has a better shot of breaking records than Justice League for several reasons

1. The novelty factor of seeing Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman on the same screen will be at its hottest.

2. BvS will be the first Event film after Star Wars. 3 months, whereas both Justice League parts are in much more crowded releases. People will be more starved for a big blockbuster after Star Wars, and the longer wait.

3. We don't know what the landscape will be like after 2016. Comicbook movie fatigue could slowly kick in, especially if 2016's and 2017 first half lineup delivers one stinker among them. Would hurt JL especially if a DC movie releasing before it's release, like BvS and/or WW disappoint.

4. JL will simply add what the general audience considers the B team, whereas BvS is introducing all of DC's biggest heroes together working in a semi Justice League fashion at the end.

I've had this thought as well.

Honestly this is DC's Avenger film not JL. Batman and Superman are the selling points period. I don't know how many more people you'd bring in who are Aquaman or Cyborg fans?

At best JL will play like a sequel to BvS but I don't see it being bigger or a bigger cultural event.

 

[Iceman]

They'll be able to take on a bigger foe between them and face a bigger event. This one will be more about the conflict between the big 2, seems a naturally more intimate affair.

 

[paulogonza]

I've had this thought as well.

Honestly this is DC's Avenger film not JL. Batman and Superman are the selling points period. I don't know how many more people you'd bring in who are Aquaman or Cyborg fans?

At best JL will play like a sequel to BvS but I don't see it being bigger or a bigger cultural event.

i disagree, the GA wants novelty, and JL with the first time of aquaman, flash and cyborg on big screen is more novelty than just only Batman and superman together, ok is this first time they will be together on the big screen, but the GA saw many batman and superman movies , its not novelty anymore, well its my opinion, i am more insterested in JL than just only Batman and superman and many friends of mine too

 

[Jekecy]

i disagree, the GA wants novelty, and JL with the first time of aquaman, flash and cyborg on big screen is more novelty than just only Batman and superman together, ok is this first time they will be together on the big screen, but the GA saw many batman and superman movies , its not novelty anymore, well its my opinion, i am more insterested in JL than just only Batman and superman and many friends of mine too

Yep. Agreed.

The JL property as a whole has far more novelty factors in it than this film, which is essentially just the two titans sharing the same space.